webfact Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 New search renews hopes of finding MH370KUALA LUMPUR: -- Malaysia is optimistic that the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 plane will be found in the new phase of underwater search, according to New Straits Times.Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein said with the most sophisticated of search tools being used to search a freshly refined area, it was only a matter of time before the Boeing 777-200ER was found.“If the area we are looking for has been determined, from the advice we have received, we are 99.9 per cent optimistic (that the plane will be found).“Based on the technology available and that we are looking at the right place, we are that much optimistic. The technical committee will also continue to zoom into the areas of search. Malaysia remains committed to finding the plane and we will find it,” he said after officiating the participation of the Go Phoenix vessel and the Prosas Side Scan Sonar in the search operation for MH370.The sonar will be mounted on Go Phoenix and can search up to a depth of 6,000m, covering up to 194 sq km, including blind spots, daily. The mission is funded by Petronas.Experts said the search area was roughly half the size of Australia.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-search-renews-hopes-finding-mh370/ -- Thai PBS 2014-10-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costas2008 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? I believe the reason is to try and find out why this plane went down. What happened up there? This is not a usual incident, As about the families I understand that they would like whatever remains of their beloved ones to be buried and blessed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob8891 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? Cue the tinfoil hat brigade.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? Aircraft manufacturers and government aircraft safety departments will go to incredible lengths to find out why a plane crashed in the hope of avoiding it in the future. Here the US NTSB with the aid of Boeing reconstructed a crashed plane to find that it had failed due to overheated fuel tank vapors and not a bomb or missile. It resulted in changes to the fuel system on 747's. I don't know how long they would stay motivated to find the bodies, but they won't stop wanting to know why it crashed. LINK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Valid point regarding the air accident investigation system which I had neglected to include my apologies for that omission, However I am not interested in the tin foil hat theory,but the truth, or that which may be passed on to us as the truth.That would would indeed be an interesting matter. II am a born again cynic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Thought i saw a report last week of Australian searchers declaring that they were on to something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PiPiFFS Posted October 23, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted October 23, 2014 Valid point regarding the air accident investigation system which I had neglected to include my apologies for that omission, However I am not interested in the tin foil hat theory,but the truth, or that which may be passed on to us as the truth.That would would indeed be an interesting matter. II am a born again cynic. Why is a differing opinion to yours a " Tin foil hat theory "? Just because people disagree with the so called official THEORY doesn't make them " Conspiracy theorists " A study proved that those so called conspiracy theorists are saner and more rational than those that follow what they are told 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rak sa_ngop Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 194 sq km a day. Area of Aus 7,692,024 sq km Should complete the survey in 52 years. Petronas will be bankrupt before then I hope - (used to work for them) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umbanda Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Just look in Diego Garcia and you will find it....but now....... is not red and silver anymore...Was "recycled"... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 What the hell does "99.9 per cent optimistic" mean in relation to a search for a missing airliner that has been going on non-stop for six months without so much as a decent clue as to the route it was taking when it went down? Nothing in this story leads one to the conclusion that this is not just another triumph of Malaysian optimism over reality. One can only feel for the relatives of all those missing that their hopes are being constantly raised and dashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 As much as the reason as to why the plane crashed, I'd like to know why all the neighboring countries were so unwilling to mutually share whatever information they had regarding the event right from the very beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? I believe the reason is to try and find out why this plane went down. What happened up there? This is not a usual incident, As about the families I understand that they would like whatever remains of their beloved ones to be buried and blessed. If they really want to know WHY the plane went down, they should find answers to all these secretly kept and unanswered questions about the MH 370. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? Cue the tinfoil hat brigade.... What is meant by the tinfoil hat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 If they really want to know WHY the plane went down, they should find answers to all these secretly kept and unanswered questions about the MH 370. They already know why the plane went down. It ran out of fuel, and unfortunately gravity took over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdiddy Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? To perhaps find out how the plane ended up in it's predicament, we may never know but at lease the passenger's families will be more at peace if we find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongoz Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 194 sq km a day. Area of Aus 7,692,024 sq km Should complete the survey in 52 years. Petronas will be bankrupt before then I hope - (used to work for them) Redo your sums mate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I hope they find it... and soon! But I wouldn't be so optimistic on record so early on, Mr. Minister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveling Sailor Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 While the world will probably sigh with relief that it has been found, and families of the missing will find closure, which is all good, I still think the Malay officials are clueless. A big "IF" in this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 If they really want to know WHY the plane went down, they should find answers to all these secretly kept and unanswered questions about the MH 370. They already know why the plane went down. It ran out of fuel, and unfortunately gravity took over. Until today there is no evidence that the fuel ran out. But it went down, and nobody knows where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk_mike Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 If they really want to know WHY the plane went down, they should find answers to all these secretly kept and unanswered questions about the MH 370. They already know why the plane went down. It ran out of fuel, and unfortunately gravity took over. Until today there is no evidence that the fuel ran out. But it went down, and nobody knows where. The infrequent "pings" to the satellite stopped at the right time for the plane to have run out of fuel, and at that point, they were too far from anywhere to actually land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gulfsailor Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) 194 sq km a day. Area of Aus 7,692,024 sq km Should complete the survey in 52 years. Petronas will be bankrupt before then I hope - (used to work for them) Redo your sums mate... From the news post "Experts said the search area was roughly half the size of Australia". Math is thus ok, give or take 2 years. Edited October 23, 2014 by Gulfsailor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 194 sq km a day. Area of Aus 7,692,024 sq km Should complete the survey in 52 years. Petronas will be bankrupt before then I hope - (used to work for them) that's what I though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigermonkey Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 194 sq km a day. Area of Aus 7,692,024 sq km Should complete the survey in 52 years. Petronas will be bankrupt before then I hope - (used to work for them) Redo your sums mate... From the news post "Experts said the search area was roughly half the size of Australia". Math is thus ok, give or take 2 years. Math is OK but the reporting is totally off. The search area is between 60.000 and 70,000 sq km, not half the size of Australia. Also, this ship is joining the Fugro ship which has already started the side scan sonar search. So try the math with 2 ships and the proper search area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigermonkey Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? Cue the tinfoil hat brigade.... What is meant by the tinfoil hat? Try "tin foil hat" on Google Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coma Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 While I can understand that the families concerned would like to know where their lost kin remains may be there is not going to be any remaining tissue . Now why is there such a powerful drive to locate this aircraft? Besides Boeing wanting to know what caused their aircraft to dissppear ? The whole world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 If they really want to know WHY the plane went down, they should find answers to all these secretly kept and unanswered questions about the MH 370. They already know why the plane went down. It ran out of fuel, and unfortunately gravity took over. Until today there is no evidence that the fuel ran out. But it went down, and nobody knows where. The evidence points to it being in the sea far from land. Unless you have some other evidence, not including whackjob fairy tales of iPhone photos from Diego Garcia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 If they really want to know WHY the plane went down, they should find answers to all these secretly kept and unanswered questions about the MH 370. They already know why the plane went down. It ran out of fuel, and unfortunately gravity took over. Until today there is no evidence that the fuel ran out. But it went down, and nobody knows where. The evidence points to it being in the sea far from land. Unless you have some other evidence, not including whackjob fairy tales of iPhone photos from Diego Garcia. You can keep your remarks, until today there is no hard evidence whatsoever, but a lot a lot information is being withheld, which could be useful to investigate. There will be evidence, when the plane has been found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 You can keep your remarks, until today there is no hard evidence whatsoever, but a lot a lot information is being withheld, which could be useful to investigate. What information is being withheld? And by whom? And for what reason? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted October 24, 2014 Share Posted October 24, 2014 We already know that the plane was hijacked / deliberately went off course and that there was foul play. So I do not think any findings in the wreck to improve airplane safety, except from "don't let lunatics fly the airplane" and making cockpit doors that can only be opened when the plane is one the ground or making no door at all, like on older soviet planes. Who pays for these expensive searches? What is the benefit of finding the wreck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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