Myanmar asks Thailand to reopen Koh Tao investigation into Britons' murder

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Burma asks Thailand to reopen investigation into Britons’ murder
Two Burmese suspects in murder of Hannah Witheridge and David Miller say they were tortured into confessing

Matthew Weaver

LONDON: -- Burma has formally asked Thailand to reopen the investigation into the murder of two British tourists over claims that the Burmese suspects confessed to the crime under torture.

Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were found bludgeoned to death on a beach on the popular holiday island of Koh Tao in September.

The Thai authorities have charged Burmese migrants Win Zaw Htun and Zaw Lin, both 21, with the murders. They say both confessed after they were forced to re-enact the Thai’s police version of the incident on the beach.

But both men say were beaten by the Thai police, and they have retracted their confessions. The father of Win Zaw said the police doused the pair in petrol and threatened to set them alight.

A lawyer for the Burmese embassy’s legal team said the request to reopen the investigation had been made to Thailand’s ministry for legal affairs.

Full story: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/05/burma-thailand-britons-murder-investigation

-- the guardian 2014-11-05

[gemini81]

3rd world country asking Thailand to re-open the case. Speaks volumes on the reputation and credibility found by authorities here!

[AGareth2]

mmmmm

but I thought they understood that everything was kosher?

[Costas2008]

Has the Thai police submitted the DNA match to the prosecutor?

If yes, doesn't matter how many times they reopen the case the outcome will be the same.

Now, if the DNA is genuine or not it's another matter, that may be we will never find out.

How they obtained the confessions will have a little standing in the court.

This is Thailand not the USA or Britain.

Allegations and accusations will carry on for a long time to come.

Unfortunately we already have the verdict and may be we will never find out the truth.

[JOC]

3rd world country asking Thailand to re-open the case. Speaks volumes on the reputation and credibility found by authorities here!

3rd world country asking another 3rd world country, would have been more correct!!

[JOC]

Has the Thai police submitted the DNA match to the prosecutor?

If yes, doesn't matter how many times they reopen the case the outcome will be the same.

Now, if the DNA is genuine or not it's another matter, that may be we will never find out.

How they obtained the confessions will have a little standing in the court.

This is Thailand not the USA or Britain.

Allegations and accusations will carry on for a long time to come.

Unfortunately we already have the verdict and may be we will never find out the truth.

You are wrong!!

This time, they are not going to get away with it!!

Pressure from social media, mainstream media, NHRC, Lawyers Council and now the Myanmar government will not allow the RTP to hide their usual dirty tricks!!

Case might never be solved, but at least the two scapegoats will not be convicted.

Too many eyes watching!!

[JOC]

Anymore face to lose for the RTP??

Gloating? YES!! Enjoying it? Every second of it!!

[JOC]

<The father of Win Zaw said the police doused the pair in petrol and threatened to set them alight.> Quote

If karma exists, I hope those coppers will burn in hell!!

[bruceybonus]

<The father of Win Zaw said the police doused the pair in petrol and threatened to set them alight.> Quote

If karma exists, I hope those coppers will burn in hell!!

If someone did that to me, I would admit to a session with Jimmy Saville and the Krankies!

[bruceybonus]

<The father of Win Zaw said the police doused the pair in petrol and threatened to set them alight.> Quote

If karma exists, I hope those coppers will burn in hell!!

If someone did that to me, I would admit to a session with Jimmy Saville and the Krankies!

[sweatalot]

If Burma can do that - why is it that GB cannot formally ask that British Police can do the investigation (without being distracted by the BIB, of course)?

[thesetat2013]

The RTP ignored the Human Rights Commisions requests to answer their questions regarding the way they obtained the confessions. What makes anyone think a Burmy request will be followed?

[chotthee]

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

[z42]

Good on them I say. A government can't be threatened with defamation etc. Long may the people power motion continue to turn the screw and hopefully get some of these issues clarified & dealt with in a proper way.
I doubt it'll be taken heed of but it is great to see the Burmese authorities are actually looking after their own. They must know a hell of a lot and have a whole heap of documents stashed away to make such a bold move. Let's hope they push a little more for the truth to come out

[JOC]

The RTP ignored the Human Rights Commisions requests to answer their questions regarding the way they obtained the confessions. What makes anyone think a Burmy request will be followed?

First of all this a government to government request!!

Secondly. Money!! Thailand uses natural gas from Myanmar for almost 70% of its powerproduction!!

Thailand imported gas worth $ 3.5 billion from Myanmar last year!!

So yes, they will take this request seriously!!

[JOC]

If Burma can do that - why is it that GB cannot formally ask that British Police can do the investigation (without being distracted by the BIB, of course)?

Because this chapter in this sad story is about two Myanmar citizens!!

Where even the Myanmar government now publicly are questioning the handling of the case!!

[JOC]

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

But today the power of gas is much stronger than any old elephant!!

[kmj]

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

Chotthee well done, it's people like you that make Thailand what it is today...

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

The Burmese should just threaten the Thais with a "da capo" of the sackings of Ayutthaya.

[jdinasia]

If Burma can do that - why is it that GB cannot formally ask that British Police can do the investigation (without being distracted by the BIB, of course)?

Because the investigation is a Thai issue?

[sweatalot]

If Burma can do that - why is it that GB cannot formally ask that British Police can do the investigation (without being distracted by the BIB, of course)?

Because this chapter in this sad story is about two Myanmar citizens!!

Where even the Myanmar government now publicly are questioning the handling of the case!!

"Because this chapter in this sad story is about two Myanmar citizens!!"

What about the sad story of two British citizens?

[jdinasia]

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

But today the power of gas is much stronger than any old elephant!!

Market forces prevent any threat of that sort, not to mention ASEAN treaties.

[JOC]

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

But today the power of gas is much stronger than any old elephant!!

Market forces prevent any threat of that sort, not to mention ASEAN treaties.

Would normally be correct, but not in this case!!

Thailand signed a 30 year deal in 1999 with very favourable prices (for Thailand).

Not to mention PTTEP's heavy investment in Myanmar. Present and planned!!

[bubblegum]

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

Movies always speak the truth do they ? Are you a troll or just as ignorant as the rest of your folk man?

[jdinasia]

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

But today the power of gas is much stronger than any old elephant!!

Market forces prevent any threat of that sort, not to mention ASEAN treaties.

Would normally be correct, but not in this case!!

Thailand signed a 30 year deal in 1999 with very favourable prices (for Thailand).

Not to mention PTTEP's heavy investment in Myanmar. Present and planned!!

So you mean the power of the THB?

[Old Man River]

Has the Thai police submitted the DNA match to the prosecutor?

If yes, doesn't matter how many times they reopen the case the outcome will be the same.

Now, if the DNA is genuine or not it's another matter, that may be we will never find out.

How they obtained the confessions will have a little standing in the court.

This is Thailand not the USA or Britain.

Allegations and accusations will carry on for a long time to come.

Unfortunately we already have the verdict and may be we will never find out the truth.

A lie detector test, while not admissible, would be very interesting.

[dean008]

what article are you reading. they made a request

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

[German Viking]

Burmese have no right to order Thais around.

Burmese is not the father of Thais.

In fact, some Thai fathers I saw in movies riding elephants and bit the shit out of Burmese in many ancient battle field.

This is just bollywood, the Thais got several time beaten up by the burmese in wars, but the main impact was the destruction of Ayutthaya by the burmese.

The Thai culture did'nt recovered from this event until now.

[longtom]

I am glad to hear that the burmese government, beacon of human rights, cares so much about their citizens in Thailand. After all, their military regime seems to care so much about their people that they beat them senseless (monks), they take really good care of the ´slaves´ working in Thailand and overall take very good care of their ´tribes´ (e.g. Rohingas)

Yes I know, in theory they are a democracy now.

[German Viking]

If Burma can do that - why is it that GB cannot formally ask that British Police can do the investigation (without being distracted by the BIB, of course)?

probably caused that the GB politicians having no balls!!???