Sabaisabai1 Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just curious.....manufacturers like Honda, Toyota, Ford, Chev and so on only seem to put their regular, mass market cars and trucks for sale in Thailand. I've never seen dealers sell the Ford Mustang, Toyota Supra, Chev Corvette and so on. Not sure why as Thais certainly have money for Benz and BMWs, not to mention Porsches and so on. I've seen the importer on Rama 9 selling Camaros but not at Chevy dealers. Is there just no demand for the more average sports cars or is there another reason? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) American 'sports' models don't seem to be widely sold in Europe, either. I don't think they're especially popular outside the US. Toyota stopped making the Supra ten years ago. Edited November 20, 2014 by SoiBiker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Plenty of sports cars round these parts. It just seems that the locals prefer them to be German or Italian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 They aren't made here and the dealer would personally have to import it in hope of a customer at around 3.5 times the UK/ wherever price. It's the same with models such as Volvo, you order before it is imported by the dealer from Malaysia which get the reduced Asean import taxes around 100% all in. There are several independent high end importers especially in Bangkok plus of course the dealers in Parago- Maseratis, Lamborghini, Porsche, Lotus, Rolls etc. Don't know if any are official dealers or independent. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Pretty much all dealers don't hold anymore cars than are in their showroom for display only even it's it's a mirage or Yaris. Cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Plenty of sports cars round these parts. It just seems that the locals prefer them to be German or Italian. What "parts" are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Plenty of sports cars round these parts. It just seems that the locals prefer them to be German or Italian. What "parts" are you talking about? The parts where I live. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post giddyup Posted November 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2014 I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Plenty of sports cars round these parts. It just seems that the locals prefer them to be German or Italian. What "parts" are you talking about? The parts where I live. The world hates a smart arse. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just thought it seemed a bit nosey. Bangkok, if you must know. Can we get back to talking about cars now? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Is it even possible for Ford or Chevrolet to sell LHD vehicles from their showrooms here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoiBiker Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Is it even possible for Ford or Chevrolet to sell LHD vehicles from their showrooms here ? They both make RHD versions of their sports models these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Just thought it seemed a bit nosey. Bangkok, if you must know. Can we get back to talking about cars now? Nosey? I didn't ask for your street address did I? I just wanted to know an area that had roads good enough for sports cars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Is it even possible for Ford or Chevrolet to sell LHD vehicles from their showrooms here ? They both make RHD versions of their sports models these days. I know both Ford and GM are planning a RHD version of their respective "sports" cars but I did not know that had actually happened yet, Thanks for the update. Edited November 20, 2014 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WarpSpeed Posted November 20, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Following Clarksons lead eh? But in answer to the Op's question, as far as most American sports cars goes this market is just not worth the hassle when they can make sales in places like China and have much less hassle for a much larger market and profit margin so it's left more to the grey market importers to deal with. GM was one of the first manufacturers to produce in China just behind VW. FYI that's also the reason even VW and some others pulled out of this market some years ago and are just now slowly making a way back. I see Arthur touched on it pretty comprehensively. Edited November 20, 2014 by WarpSpeed 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Following Clarksons lead eh? But in answer to the Op's question, as far as most American sports cars goes this market is just not worth the hassle when they can make sales in places like China and have much less hassle for a much larger market and profit margin so it's left more to the grey market importers to deal with. GM was one of the first manufacturers to produce in China just behind VW. FYI that's also the reason even VW and some others pulled out of this market some years ago and are just now slowly making a way back. Replace slopes with ramps, I'd hate to be accused of making a racial slur. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 And now for the real answer.. Any car with > 3.0L engine, or > 220 HP gets 111.1% excise tax vs 13-30% for most mainstream cars.. As a result, the mainstream brands don't bother, because at the resulting prices, people expect a prestige nameplate - not Ford, Chev etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Basically that's the same answer but just more direct and an additional part but not necessarily the ONLY reason. That's what I was eluding to with describing the "hassle" of selling there, pretty sure Arthur was intimating the same thing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Following Clarksons lead eh? But in answer to the Op's question, as far as most American sports cars goes this market is just not worth the hassle when they can make sales in places like China and have much less hassle for a much larger market and profit margin so it's left more to the grey market importers to deal with. GM was one of the first manufacturers to produce in China just behind VW. FYI that's also the reason even VW and some others pulled out of this market some years ago and are just now slowly making a way back. Replace slopes with ramps, I'd hate to be accused of making a racial slur. I get it, just a light hearted post, you are speaking of speed bumps I take it? I agree, there are plenty of roads capable of accommodating sports cars, especially in Bangkok. A factory sports car is not usually lowered so low as to make it unusable on common streets, obviously in the high dollar brackets there are exceptions but even those are sold and bought in Thailand. Edited November 20, 2014 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heina Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 What fuel to fill in sport car in Thailand? Gasohol 95? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMHO Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Basically that's the same answer but just more direct and an additional part but not necessarily the ONLY reason. That's what I was eluding to with describing the "hassle" of selling there, pretty sure Arthur was intimating the same thing.. There's simply no business case to stock parts, train staff, do marketing etc for a USD $150K+ Chev that no-one wants to buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Following Clarksons lead eh? But in answer to the Op's question, as far as most American sports cars goes this market is just not worth the hassle when they can make sales in places like China and have much less hassle for a much larger market and profit margin so it's left more to the grey market importers to deal with. GM was one of the first manufacturers to produce in China just behind VW. FYI that's also the reason even VW and some others pulled out of this market some years ago and are just now slowly making a way back. Replace slopes with ramps, I'd hate to be accused of making a racial slur. I get it, just a light hearted post, you are speaking of speed bumps I take it? I agree, there are plenty of roads capable of accommodating sports cars, especially in Bangkok. A factory sports car is not usually lowered so low as to make it unusable on common streets, obviously in the high dollar brackets there are exceptions but even those are sold and bought in Thailand. Speed humps, ramps into driveways etc. All designed to at least rip off the spoiler or mufflers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarpSpeed Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Well it's not 150k in the real world so that's my point exactly. Not "no one" but like so many other sports cars, "few" can "afford" to buy, I'd wager there'd be a better market for cars like the Vette were it able to be competitive in price without nonsensical taxes to line the pockets of the corrupt elite in power versus ANY other Euro car in it's class given price versus package and performance.. If there wasn't it'd be strictly about market intelligence and not about product. Edited November 20, 2014 by WarpSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sviss Geez Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 What fuel to fill in sport car in Thailand? Gasohol 95? 95 octane petrol would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurwait Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 What fuel to fill in sport car in Thailand? Gasohol 95? 95 Benzine from the MIL's petrol station. Just need the car now. .................. and the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobTH Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 I have been coming to Thailand since 1999 and lived here in Bangkok the past 3 years. Since I have a 1970 Corvette Stingray stored back in the USA I have always been on the lookout for them here. I know there are some but I had never seen one myself until 2 weeks ago. My Girlfriend and I were driving to a National Park and we were about 70 Kilometers north of Bangkok when out of the blue I seen what appeared to be a 2014 Corvette. Being in heavy traffic and because it turned off the highway I didn't get a real good look at it. I am sure it cost the owner a pretty penny to ship it here, I kind of doubt that he could get one through a dealership here but again I am not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacChang Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> American 'sports' models don't seem to be widely sold in Europe, either. I don't think they're especially popular outside the US. Toyota stopped making the Supra ten years ago. Toyota makes GT86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Thought about bringing my Lexus sports car when I shipped.....wasn't aware of the HP/displacement limitations - what kept me from bringing it was the roads around CM and the lack of knowledge/service/parts support - it was LHD so probably not good on the one lanes....especially with my driving style..... Tried bringing one of my 4x4's - hope whoever ended up seeing it and wanting it is enjoying it....after a 720,000B I abandoned the chase rather than ship back to the states and have 3 vehicles back there in storage (one driver)..... Edited November 20, 2014 by pgrahmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Parts is parts... I could imagine the horror of driving a low slung sports car around the area where I live. Even though all the roads are sealed there are still plenty of pot holes and slopes that would see the end of the suspension. So unless you are only going to take it on a freeway, it's just not going to be a practical car to drive in Thailand. Plenty of sports cars round these parts. It just seems that the locals prefer them to be German or Italian. What "parts" are you talking about? The parts where I live. The world hates a smart arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezzra Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Local dealers not want to deal with a niche market, they go for volume of meat and potato style cars, in and out quick.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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