mikemac Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Just did a road trip in my pickup from Chiang Mai - Surin - Chiang Mai. About 2100 km, via Phetchabun, Chaiyapum. Saw lots of houses and even more industrial related buildings being built. Things can't be that bad, or I am just seeing the glass half full ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 "Ringing endorsement"? The ringing one hears may be the alarm bells of a ship in distress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mikemac Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 I have been very happy recently with the quality of ridiculous-ness coming out of the good general's mouth. With every cunning plan, the laugh-o-meter is getting a good workout. Good to see you are getting a good laugh out of "the cunning plans". A bit of a change from people mourning over loved ones who took their own lives because of the previous government's botched rice scheme, and innocent protesters, including children, who were murdered by the Shinawatra terrorist arm, the ThaiRouge. Spare them a thought next time you have a good belly laugh, and think about going back to the good ol' days of Shin regime rule. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EnglishJohn Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 Then go after all of those irrespective of political hue or family connections etc who have conspired to steal as much as they could from Thailand and its peoples. Quite difficult when the coup makers are the main culprits for this. Will they arrest themselves? ps why are all coup supporters older British guys in Issan. Must be an old colonial thing Maybe we just have a sense of decency. Something nobody who supported the last government can understand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 "Ringing endorsement"? The ringing one hears may be the alarm bells of a ship in distress. No, that ill-fated ship has already gone down, with the loss of all lives bar the "Skipper". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Please stay on topic. This is not about foreigner's voting rights nor citizenship here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post billd766 Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 Then go after all of those irrespective of political hue or family connections etc who have conspired to steal as much as they could from Thailand and its peoples. Quite difficult when the coup makers are the main culprits for this. Will they arrest themselves? ps why are all coup supporters older British guys in Issan. Must be an old colonial thing Of course you do have proof that the coup makers ARE the main culprits for this and you ARE willing to go to the government with all this proof? The coup supporters are most probably older people who have been living under many corrupt governments for many years. That does include the Democrats, TRT, PPP, TRT and ALL the other political parties hanging on the main parties coattails. The coup supporters are sick of corruption over the decades and ANY government who not only promises to do their best to eliminate corruption but actually does something, which this government seems to be trying to do, deserves everybodys support. Of course if you were happier under the previous governments corrupt wats then you probably hate this government. It is not a colonial thing but an anti corruption thing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 This is the same article as one saying there is "mixed feelings" over Prayuth, only altered to have a positive spin! In truth there is not a single subjective and independent opinion in that article which relies on a couple of Prayuths lackys towing the party line. In reality foreign businesses are in despair at plans to limit foreign ownership, whilst figures point to a stagnating economy on the brink of recession with FDI in freefall. I`m not quite sure who they hope to convince with this <deleted> to be perfectly honest. The squeeze on people pockets is not something you can hide with propaganda! Its alright. Elsewhwere someone is arguing that Thailand can forgive FDI because obviously Thai homegrown industry is going to pull the economy along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The junta still think we are bunch of idiots and keep churning out all these feel good reports when the ground situation is completely in the reverse. Most businnesses that I am in contact are gutting this poor economic situation out with reduce revenues of up to 50%. Most of my contractors friends have no work as project approvals are delayed. Small retails near my house are closing down due to reduce customers as domestic consumption softened and people have no confidence of the business future. Even BOI reported a decline of 10% foreign investment and will be worse when the junta imposed more control on foreign businesses. Unemployment is up. Central Bank is forecasting this year to be less than 1% as budget allocations for 2015 are only dripping into the wider economy. Better for the junta to face up to the real situation than surround themself with people who only to eager bring the good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 A reminder to Please use discretion in your references to the government. Phrases which can be considered as anti-coup will be removed. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 " jingle bells ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Any dares not to endorse him, put I your hand. There is a place for you at the re-education camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Perhaps you corruption-supporting falang know more about the economy than the Thai business leaders questioned? I think not. The same old posters criticising anything this government does or says. The previous administration is gone. Get over it and try to help the country improve. Or leave, and stop filling up ThaiVisa with your negative, unhelpful comments. Until there is a truly free Thai press allowed to counter such glowing accounts no one can ever be trustful of the Thai business leaders, government, etc. who promote this stuff. While it could be true, I would not take a bet on it solely for the reason that opposition opinion is not allowed. As things stand now, the press is not allowed to publish articles that question the government. How does anyone know what to believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Left my ears ringing, that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon999 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Then go after all of those irrespective of political hue or family connections etc who have conspired to steal as much as they could from Thailand and its peoples. Quite difficult when the coup makers are the main culprits for this. Will they arrest themselves? ps why are all coup supporters older British guys in Issan. Must be an old colonial thing Well you have never ask me or anyone I know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Haggis Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Just did a road trip in my pickup from Chiang Mai - Surin - Chiang Mai. About 2100 km, via Phetchabun, Chaiyapum. Saw lots of houses and even more industrial related buildings being built. Things can't be that bad, or I am just seeing the glass half full ? There's Also several around the Korat Kratoke area but how many are projects that were started prior to 22 May ? You can't say for sure these new builds are from the approval of the Junta, as much as you can say they're not related to post coup economics ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 (edited) Overseas Business Risk: Thailand: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/overseas-business-risk-thailand/overseas-business-risk-thailand Edited November 24, 2014 by evadgib Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie888888 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I have been very happy recently with the quality of ridiculous-ness coming out of the good general's mouth. With every cunning plan, the laugh-o-meter is getting a good workout. Good to see you are getting a good laugh out of "the cunning plans". A bit of a change from people mourning over loved ones who took their own lives because of the previous government's botched rice scheme, and innocent protesters, including children, who were murdered by the Shinawatra terrorist arm, the ThaiRouge. Spare them a thought next time you have a good belly laugh, and think about going back to the good ol' days of Shin regime rule. I spare a thought for them and all those who perished under authoritarian regimes of ANY persuasion. If you believe either red or yellow are blameless, then clearly the current propaganda blitz has worked remarkably well. Who am I to wake you from your yellow tinged idyll? Meanwhile, I am returning to my state of government-induced happiness, as instructed by the good general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The manic Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 In the history of the world no military junta has led their people to freedom, creativity or wealth. On the contrary. It always leads to organised suppression. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Perhaps you corruption-supporting falang know more about the economy than the Thai business leaders questioned?I think not.The same old posters criticising anything this government does or says.The previous administration is gone. Get over it and try to help the country improve.Or leave, and stop filling up ThaiVisa with your negative, unhelpful comments. I wasn't questioning the intelligence of the Thai Business man , I was remarking on the hurdles that are going to be increased on international companies so they can invest , improve , innovate , research and build a better Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 The previous administration is gone. Get over it and try to help the country improve. I would have thought this thought process would be a lot more applicable to those that support the coup. When any wrongdoing of the current administration is highlighted you retort ad nauseum "but the previous government did ......" It`s a bit like your friends letting you know your current wife is cheating on you, but you defend it by saying "didn`t my first wife do that also, and worse!?" That may well be but the first wife is gone and what she did is ireelevant and can no longer be dealt with, the current one can. As you say it`s time to "get over it and try to help the country improve," and that isn`t going to happen with this lot in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Flinstone Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 We are off to India soon and really wish Thailand luck in sorting out their mess. But i firmly believe without the elections in 2015 its plummeting world perception won't improve . People rule out in many cases visiting a country with so much political unrest potentially , and one governed by military . We have children and so family insurance is essential. Its just not something easily obtained these days if your going there. Free speech and threats , and the spike of murders etc. I feel this country may be ruled for quite some Time by a Government trying to insist it is something other than the reality. Tourism loss is just one aspect- Business will maybe be mishandled too. The cracks are starting to show and people can't have peace of mind with their family in such places anymore. I hope by late next year we see some elections and things return again to a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tullynagardy Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 I could not give a hoot what the EC found or did not find, vote buying exists in Thailand and the Shin parties used it on a grand scale. It was a waste of time for the other parties to do it when everyone knew the Shin vote was worth more, they obviously had a bigger budget. Isn`t there a rule about posting blatant lies? The Shinawatra family are a lowly tenth in Thailands rich list whilst those that fund the Democrats have several representatives in the top ten. This BS that Thaksin is the richest man alive is ignorant nonsense. The wealth of the Thai elite and their political puppet the democrats is multiple times richer than Thaksin so your arguments doesn`t add up, taking aside it`s been proven nonsense anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotEd Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Now why don't they ask the upcountry rice farmers how much better their lives are under this PM. Business people predictably are happy with oligarchys.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chotthee Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 So every couple of weeks we are going to be told how happy everyone is and the businesses? Surely this is political propoganda Fact is not propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 A number of posts with messed up quotes have been removed as it was difficult to determine who said what. If you cannot post without violating the following, don't bother posting: Thailand remain under Martial Law and the rules related to Social Media and posting on Thaivisa will follow the guidelines set forth by the Thai government and the military. Here are some things that you should consider when posting: All suspects in lese majeste cases, national security cases, violators of NCPO orders will face court martial. Any discussion of the Monarchy or members of the royal family in a political context will result in a ban. This includes vague comments that could be construed as referring to the Monarchy. Please use discretion in your references to the government. Phrases which can be considered as anti-coup will be removed. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed. Any posts which can be construed as rumor mongering are not allowed. Posters violating these rules, and the forum rules will receive a warning, a possible suspension of posting privileges or a ban from the site. Please check the entire list of forum rules: http://www.thaivisa....tion=boardrules http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/769792-notice-to-members-posting-in-thailand-news/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJP Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 A post and replies to it have been removed. Please be careful in your choice of words when discussing the present administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ianf Posted November 24, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2014 We are off to India soon and really wish Thailand luck in sorting out their mess. But i firmly believe without the elections in 2015 its plummeting world perception won't improve . People rule out in many cases visiting a country with so much political unrest potentially , and one governed by military . We have children and so family insurance is essential. Its just not something easily obtained these days if your going there. Free speech and threats , and the spike of murders etc. I feel this country may be ruled for quite some Time by a Government trying to insist it is something other than the reality. Tourism loss is just one aspect- Business will maybe be mishandled too. The cracks are starting to show and people can't have peace of mind with their family in such places anymore. I hope by late next year we see some elections and things return again to a democracy. Hey Fred: Just one question: How can we have a "return to democracy" when there was no democracy in the first place? Let me remind some of the posters here - just because you have elections it does not mean that you have a democracy. Look at Saddam, Mugabe, Hun Sen, China. And what are the people currently fighting for in Hong Kong after? Democracy because their elections are not democratic. Some other posters who have been critical above should wake up and understand what despots are, what family dictatorships can do to a country. They should look at how PTP and Thaksin in particular ruled the country AFTER the elections. Tell me, was Thaksin's paying off of the so-called independent Senators democratic? Was his extra-judicial slayings of more than 2,500 so-called drug dealers (including political opponents) democratic? Were the 18 cases of human rights abuses listed by Amnesty International against Thaksin himself Democratic? I hardly think so and these examples are just the tip of a massive undemocratic iceberg. Let's raise another issue. Is a coup necessarily an act against democracy? Take, for example, Hitler (who was elected in the 1930s) but whose generals realised that the guy was dangerous and out of control. What did they do? Well in 1944 they tried to organise a coup against Hitler but failed. So, as a result, they were executed along with millions of Jews and everyday people in Europe. Just think none of those people would have met their terrible ends had the generals succeeded in a coup against Hitler. There are many who believe that the coup against Thaksin's undemocratic rule has saved Thailand from a fate far worse than a benevolent coup. So please think this through before posting your prejudices. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazarusRising Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Co-conspirators endorsing populist policies they recently raged against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert2006 Posted November 24, 2014 Share Posted November 24, 2014 Classic propaganda, the situation in Thailand is corruption from top to bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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