Michael Brown shooting: Ferguson jury reaches verdict

[uptheos]

Bottles being thrown at police, tear gas being fired and reports of gunshots. No surprise really.

Of course not that's the only reason they gathered there, an indictment would have been a disappointment.

However, it's good to see that justice prevails in the USA in spite of those lunatics.

[cup-O-coffee]

Amazing. 'Reminds me of a man trying to provoke another man into an all out row, and the one being provoked truly (TRULY) wants nothing to do with it. Are there any white people on TV forum who want an all out war between blacks skinned people and white skinned people? Are there any black skinned people or white skinned people inciting and chanting murderous speech? Yes? Then who, and which skin color? What stations do they hold?

As I stated in another post, the truth can only be ignored for so long, but when those ignoring or censoring the truth empower those with a sense of unfair and biased entitlement, and those being imbued with that sense of sense of unfair and biased entitlement use it as a means to break the law, then that is the time at which the dam breaks and all Hell is unleashed.

When I think of the President, and his championing of the black people, I think that he either really put his foot into it by neglecting his other demographics of constituents, or that he truly is on target with the conspiracy theory to enact the F.E.M.A. act on USA soil in order to extend his lame duck term. This growing trend of unlawfulness by a particular demographic would certainly be reason enough to lend plausibility.

Mr. President, this is your baby. Don't be a deadbeat dad. Be a responsible father and deal with your child before any shot is fired.

The fact is, Mr. President, you need to stop thinking about legacies and act now. Your people need you. All of them. Do the right thing. Now. Before it's too late to turn back.

That is my opinion.

[Johpa]

Of course not that's the only reason they gathered there, an indictment would have been a disappointment.

However, it's good to see that justice prevails in the USA in spite of those lunatics.

Justice only pevails if Officer Wilson is relieved of his badge. But I agree that you can not hold the officer guilty of a crime in this particular instance, just hold him accountable for not having the needed judgement to serve as an armed officer of the law.

Edited November 25, 2014 by Johpa

[NeverSure]

Of course not that's the only reason they gathered there, an indictment would have been a disappointment.

However, it's good to see that justice prevails in the USA in spite of those lunatics.

Justice only pevails if Officer Wilson is relieved of his badge. But I agree that you can not hold the officer guilty of a crime in this particular instance, just hold him accountable for not having the needed judgement to serve as an armed officer of the law.

Where do you get that? The officer was justified. He just did his job.

[Alan653]

The whiners are already whining and nothing to whine about has happened yet.

This is one of the reason's i left the US.

WAH....WAH...WAH....!

[F430murci]

Lol, they are smashing the crap out of everything around McDonalds. Gotta get me some hash browns in the morning after a long night of looting.

[F430murci]

The whiners are already whining and nothing to whine about has happened yet.

This is one of the reason's i left the US.

WAH....WAH...WAH....!

Lol.

Edited November 25, 2014 by F430murci

[craigt3365]

Lots of good pics and info here. As usual, a few are causing problems for many.

http://cnnuslive.cnn.com/Event/Grand_jury_rules_in_Michael_Browns_death?hpt=hp_t1

[StevieH]

Of course not that's the only reason they gathered there, an indictment would have been a disappointment.

However, it's good to see that justice prevails in the USA in spite of those lunatics.

Justice only pevails if Officer Wilson is relieved of his badge. But I agree that you can not hold the officer guilty of a crime in this particular instance, just hold him accountable for not having the needed judgement to serve as an armed officer of the law.

Where do you get that? The officer was justified. He just did his job.

he's a police officer. his job is to protect and serve. not pump six bullets into an unarmed american citizen. whatever the colour of their skin.

[Mrjlh]

Isn't it interesting how certain people just can not accept the truth? That not matter what anyone says, they are right and everyone is wrong. The Grand Jury in this case "saw ALL the evidence", we did not. They heard "ALL" the testimonies, we (the Public) did not. They heard more evidence than what is normally presented by the Prosecution beyond anything the US justice system has ever seen before. A Grand Jury is comprised from 16-23 people, you are "one" person. Their conclusion is there was NOT enough evidence nor was there sufficient cause to press charges in this case. Case "Closed".

It's also interesting how worlds away people are passing judgement of an event they "only" read in the newspapers and what they saw on TV. People who have never even been in the US and have no clue as to what low income life is like there. They don't see the racism nor the hate that certain ethnic group generate even though it happens in their own country. There were several documented reports that described and detailed the history of the neighborhood that Mr. Brown grew up. Drugs and gangs where prevalent and they are currently the ones causing the riots in Ferguson.

What is totally amazing how certain people have made a hero ( martyr) out of a person who on "video" committed a Felony assault and robbery. Then assaulted a Police Officer. Seems we really have really good examples of winners of the "Darwin Award". Most are the ones rioting in Ferguson.

Edited November 25, 2014 by Mrjlh

[RustBucket]

I think this is going to get out of control.

These days people are totally organised and there are groups who are intent on making this a massive turning point.

The police 'I think' are going to have no other choice as to embark on wholesale slaughter and martial law to control the situation around the country.

To be perfectly honest. The US cops have had it far too good with this constant immunity.... I can't say I blame these folks. but it should not be fought on the platform or racial division... It should fought on the issue of the judicial system and the police with their 'far too' disproportionate response to many situations.

If the authorities are not willing to do anything.... Then the people must push them.

I don't agree with indiscriminate attacks on neutral people and premises, but the police, government and the authorities?.... go for it.

[RustBucket]

Isn't it interesting how certain people just can not accept the truth? That not matter what anyone says, they are right and everyone is wrong. The Grand Jury in this case "saw ALL the evidence", we did not. They heard "ALL" the testimonies, we (the Public) did not. They heard more evidence than what is normally presented by the Prosecution beyond anything the US justice system has ever seen before. A Grand Jury is comprised from 16-23 people, you are "one" person. Their conclusion is there was NOT enough evidence nor was there sufficient cause to press charges in this case. Case "Closed".

It's also interesting how worlds away people are passing judgement of an event they "only" read in the newspapers and what they saw on TV. People who have never even been in the US and have no clue as to what low income life is like there. They don't see the racism nor the hate that certain ethnic group generate even though it happens in their own country. There were several documented reports that described and detailed the history of the neighborhood that Mr. Brown grew up. Drugs and gangs where prevalent and they are currently the ones causing the riots in Ferguson.

What is totally amazing how certain people have made a hero ( martyr) out of a person who on "video" committed a Felony assault and robbery. Then assaulted a Police Officer. Seems we really have really good examples of winners of the "Darwin Award". Most are the ones rioting in Ferguson.

Did you not listen to all the witness statements after the incident that was blasted out across most of the media?

Are you totally unaware of the amount of police shootings actually caught on camera where the police are almost always given full immunity from prosecution?

There is very little justice against loose cannons on the police payroll. The people suffer, their families suffer the communities suffer.

This is a cancer that needs to be uprooted.... period. But like everything else, nothing will be done until there is a massive backlash and even more suffering.

Once again all the witness testimonies have been completely ignored.... So much for your fantastic view of the US justice system... It is corrupt beyond belief in favour of the rich and the police. The only people who face the full weight of the law in the US is the poor people and mostly blacks and Hispanics.... Don't even try to deny it.

So blatant is the US justice system's disregard for real justice that there are even CCTV and cellphone footages of police flagrantly shooting unarmed people in the back multiple times while they were surrendering.... result from your superb grand juries in almost all cases?..... Not guilty... Officers reacted within procedure....... My arse!!

There is little wonder that it is all blowing up in their faces now..... it's about time.

I suppose you are going to come back at me now much in the same way you whine about the people in your very first sentence because they don't share YOUR personal opinion.

Obviously unlike yourself, I have done a lot more research on this very issue than you yourself..... Youtube is your friend. Watch and learn, then come back.

[NeverSure]

Isn't it interesting how certain people just can not accept the truth? That not matter what anyone says, they are right and everyone is wrong. The Grand Jury in this case "saw ALL the evidence", we did not. They heard "ALL" the testimonies, we (the Public) did not. They heard more evidence than what is normally presented by the Prosecution beyond anything the US justice system has ever seen before. A Grand Jury is comprised from 16-23 people, you are "one" person. Their conclusion is there was NOT enough evidence nor was there sufficient cause to press charges in this case. Case "Closed".

It's also interesting how worlds away people are passing judgement of an event they "only" read in the newspapers and what they saw on TV. People who have never even been in the US and have no clue as to what low income life is like there. They don't see the racism nor the hate that certain ethnic group generate even though it happens in their own country. There were several documented reports that described and detailed the history of the neighborhood that Mr. Brown grew up. Drugs and gangs where prevalent and they are currently the ones causing the riots in Ferguson.

What is totally amazing how certain people have made a hero ( martyr) out of a person who on "video" committed a Felony assault and robbery. Then assaulted a Police Officer. Seems we really have really good examples of winners of the "Darwin Award". Most are the ones rioting in Ferguson.

Did you not listen to all the witness statements after the incident that was blasted out across most of the media?

Are you totally unaware of the amount of police shootings actually caught on camera where the police are almost always given full immunity from prosecution?

There is very little justice against loose cannons on the police payroll. The people suffer, their families suffer the communities suffer.

This is a cancer that needs to be uprooted.... period. But like everything else, nothing will be done until there is a massive backlash and even more suffering.

Once again all the witness testimonies have been completely ignored.... So much for your fantastic view of the US justice system... It is corrupt beyond belief in favour of the rich and the police. The only people who face the full weight of the law in the US is the poor people and mostly blacks and Hispanics.... Don't even try to deny it.

So blatant is the US justice system's disregard for real justice that there are even CCTV and cellphone footages of police flagrantly shooting unarmed people in the back multiple times while they were surrendering.... result from your superb grand juries in almost all cases?..... Not guilty... Officers reacted within procedure....... My arse!!

There is little wonder that it is all blowing up in their faces now..... it's about time.

I suppose you are going to come back at me now much in the same way you whine about the people in your very first sentence because they don't share YOUR personal opinion.

Obviously unlike yourself, I have done a lot more research on this very issue than you yourself..... Youtube is your friend. Watch and learn, then come back.

Did you see and hear all of the evidence this grand jury did?

Were you sitting in the room with them for two days while they deliberated after hearing and seeing all of the evidence?

Are you aware they are ordinary citizens, not police or government?

No? So how then can you know more than they did as they voted to clear the officer?

If they, who live there, thought the same of the police that you do, do you think the officer would have walked?

You are a very long way away from the situation to hold such a firm opinion when you know so little of the facts.

[Ulysses G.]

Once again all the witness testimonies have been completely ignored....

Actually they were NOT ignored and many of the witnesses - black and white - supported the officers version of events. The witnesses who were ignored had too many inconsistencies in their stories or admitted that they had gotten their information 2nd and 3rd hand.

[NeverSure]

-snip-

Did you not listen to all the witness statements after the incident that was blasted out across most of the media?

And you haven't read where many of the initial statements were discredited by camera footage? When confronted with the real evidence, those statements were withdrawn.

You are still operating with the rumors while the grand jury got to see the facts.

[rethaier]

Officer Wilson will not be indicted after a careful examination of all the evidence. Justice has been served.

However, what comes next with Al Sharpton and the other racial agitators?

Not everyone will agree justice has been served without viewing the evidence that was used to make that decision. Multiple bullets into an unarmed man needs to be explained.

[connda]

Michael Brown shooting: Ferguson grand jury does not indict officer Darren Wilson

Nick O'Malley

US correspondent for Fairfax Media

A white police officer will not face charges over the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager in August.

Amid rising tensions on the streets of Ferguson, a St Louis County grand jury declined to indict officer Darren Wilson, 28, for firing shots that killed 18-year-old Michael Brown, St Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch said.

Brown, an 18-year-old African American, was shot dead after he was pulled over by the Mr Wilson in August while walking down the middle of the road with a friend, Dorian Johnson.

Mr Wilson says Brown leant through his window and attacked him, at which time two shots were fired, once of them hitting Brown's arm. According to Mr Wilson, Brown then ran away, stopped and turned to lunge at him, at which point he shot Brown at least six times.

According to evidence presented Brown and his friend had been earlier stolen cigars from a local store, and Mr Wilson considered them suspects for the theft.

His friend Mr Johnson said Brown was first shot as he fled and was attempting to surrender with his hands in the air when the fatal shots were fired.

Full story: http://www.theage.com.au/world/michael-brown-shooting-ferguson-grand-jury-does-not-indict-officer-darren-wilson-20141125-11t59w.html

-- The Age 2014-11-25

The riots were going to happen regardless of what the grand jury handed down imho. I'm definitely more interested in when they plan to release the grand jury transcripts. It would be nice to know what really happened instead of all the racially charged speculation.

[Pakboong]

http://12160.info/page/watch-live-ferguson-continues-to-protest-michael-brown-shooting

[Johpa]

Justice only pevails if Officer Wilson is relieved of his badge. But I agree that you can not hold the officer guilty of a crime in this particular instance, just hold him accountable for not having the needed judgement to serve as an armed officer of the law.

Where do you get that? The officer was justified. He just did his job.

He was justified only in the sense that he had to make a split second decision involving the use of deadly force, a decision we ask of armed police officers to make on our behalf, and he made the wrong decision. I agree with the grand jury that we, as a society, do not indict officers of the law in these circumstances of any criminal intent. He did indeed do his job, just not very well.

[cup-O-coffee]

Of course not that's the only reason they gathered there, an indictment would have been a disappointment.

However, it's good to see that justice prevails in the USA in spite of those lunatics.

Justice only pevails if Officer Wilson is relieved of his badge. But I agree that you can not hold the officer guilty of a crime in this particular instance, just hold him accountable for not having the needed judgement to serve as an armed officer of the law.

Where do you get that? The officer was justified. He just did his job.

he's a police officer. his job is to protect and serve. not pump six bullets into an unarmed american citizen. whatever the colour of their skin.

True, and you are correct in this principle ONLY if you are describing a field test with cardboard cutouts of innocent black American babies waving rattles and lollipops in the air.

The OP points us to a very different scenario, where Americans pretending to be armed often are not pretending and often do shoot back.

Perhaps you need more specifics?

[NeverSure]

Officer Wilson will not be indicted after a careful examination of all the evidence. Justice has been served.

However, what comes next with Al Sharpton and the other racial agitators?

Not everyone will agree justice has been served without viewing the evidence that was used to make that decision. Multiple bullets into an unarmed man needs to be explained.

"Brown, an 18-year-old African American, was shot dead after he was pulled over by the Mr Wilson in August while walking down the middle of the road with a friend, Dorian Johnson.

Mr Wilson says Brown leant through his window and attacked him, at which time two shots were fired, once of them hitting Brown's arm. According to Mr Wilson, Brown then ran away, stopped and turned to lunge at him, at which point he shot Brown at least six times.

According to evidence presented Brown and his friend had been earlier stolen cigars from a local store, and Mr Wilson considered them suspects for the theft." (From above news post)

It was explained thoroughly to the grand jury which saw and heard all of the evidence.

There was blood in the officer's car and wounds to his face from Brown leaning into his car and attacking him. The officer then fired twice, hitting Brown in the arm. The officer stated that due to the size of Brown he didn't think he could take a third blow to the face without losing consciousness so he fired.

Brown left, the officer followed and Brown turned back to attack the officer. That's when the idiot got himself shot. Brown was way too big for the officer to handle physically, Brown had punched the officer wounding him, and when he turned and came back the officer had NO obligation to accept any more bodily injury from Brown.

End of.

[webfact]

Riot after US jury fails to indict Ferguson policeman

FERGUSON, United States (AFP) - Violent protests and looting erupted in the US town of Ferguson on Monday after a grand jury chose not to press charges against a white officer who shot dead a black teen.

President Barack Obama and the family of late 18-year-old Michael Brown separately appealed for calm after a prosecutor said a grand jury had found the policeman acted in self-defence.

St Louis County Prosecuting Attorney Robert McCulloch said Officer Darren Wilson had fired 12 times after getting into an "altercation" with Brown, and that the jury had found no grounds to file charges.

As McCulloch rounded off his summary of the grand jury testimony, Brown’s mother burst into tears and the crowd began to chant: "Hey, hey, ho, ho! These killer cops have got to go."

Members of an angry crowd outside the police station where Wilson had been based threw bottles and stones. A police car was set alight and stores looted.

Riot officers responded with teargas and flash grenades, and running battles broke out in the streets of the St Louis suburb.

Looters smashed their way into a mobile phone store opposite the police headquarters and ransacked it. Nearby, an AFP journalist was hurt when he was hit in the face by a hurled object.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Riot-after-US-jury-fails-to-indict-Ferguson-police-30248498.html


-- The Nation 2014-11-25

[Credo]

I was inclined to think the police officer was culpable, but apparently the Grand Jury didn't and they heard all the evidence. The standard for a Grand Jury is relatively low, since the officer would still have to be tried in court.

The US has a Black President and a Black Attorney General, if there was political pressure on the Grand Jury, it would have been toward indicting him. The fact that he wasn't indicted seems to be a very fair and just decision.

[Presto]

Officer Wilson will not be indicted after a careful examination of all the evidence. Justice has been served.

However, what comes next with Al Sharpton and the other racial agitators?

Not everyone will agree justice has been served without viewing the evidence that was used to make that decision. Multiple bullets into an unarmed man needs to be explained.

"Brown, an 18-year-old African American, was shot dead after he was pulled over by the Mr Wilson in August while walking down the middle of the road with a friend, Dorian Johnson.

Mr Wilson says Brown leant through his window and attacked him, at which time two shots were fired, once of them hitting Brown's arm. According to Mr Wilson, Brown then ran away, stopped and turned to lunge at him, at which point he shot Brown at least six times.

According to evidence presented Brown and his friend had been earlier stolen cigars from a local store, and Mr Wilson considered them suspects for the theft." (From above news post)

It was explained thoroughly to the grand jury which saw and heard all of the evidence.

There was blood in the officer's car and wounds to his face from Brown leaning into his car and attacking him. The officer then fired twice, hitting Brown in the arm. The officer stated that due to the size of Brown he didn't think he could take a third blow to the face without losing consciousness so he fired.

Brown left, the officer followed and Brown turned back to attack the officer. That's when the idiot got himself shot. Brown was way too big for the officer to handle physically, Brown had punched the officer wounding him, and when he turned and came back the officer had NO obligation to accept any more bodily injury from Brown.

End of.

Interesting to see that the officer is referred to as 'Mr Wilson', and the victim simply as 'Brown'.

That tells me enough.

[zydeco]

Officer Wilson will not be indicted after a careful examination of all the evidence. Justice has been served.

However, what comes next with Al Sharpton and the other racial agitators?

Not everyone will agree justice has been served without viewing the evidence that was used to make that decision. Multiple bullets into an unarmed man needs to be explained.

"Brown, an 18-year-old African American, was shot dead after he was pulled over by the Mr Wilson in August while walking down the middle of the road with a friend, Dorian Johnson.

Mr Wilson says Brown leant through his window and attacked him, at which time two shots were fired, once of them hitting Brown's arm. According to Mr Wilson, Brown then ran away, stopped and turned to lunge at him, at which point he shot Brown at least six times.

According to evidence presented Brown and his friend had been earlier stolen cigars from a local store, and Mr Wilson considered them suspects for the theft." (From above news post)

It was explained thoroughly to the grand jury which saw and heard all of the evidence.

There was blood in the officer's car and wounds to his face from Brown leaning into his car and attacking him. The officer then fired twice, hitting Brown in the arm. The officer stated that due to the size of Brown he didn't think he could take a third blow to the face without losing consciousness so he fired.

Brown left, the officer followed and Brown turned back to attack the officer. That's when the idiot got himself shot. Brown was way too big for the officer to handle physically, Brown had punched the officer wounding him, and when he turned and came back the officer had NO obligation to accept any more bodily injury from Brown.

End of.

Interesting to see that the officer is referred to as 'Mr Wilson', and the victim simply as 'Brown'.

That tells me enough.

Would you prefer "Gentle Giant?"

[petercool]

an irrelevant post removed

[Presto]

'Would you prefer "Gentle Giant?"'

Thats a silly reply.

I would have preffered 'Mr Brown', that would have shown some respect. But I figure there's not much of that over there.

[chotthee]

Like Thai court, the US court is fair.

All the black rioters are illegal, and must be arrested and punished by the law.

Also like Thailand, the US has no colors in their politics.

[RustBucket]

Officer Wilson will not be indicted after a careful examination of all the evidence. Justice has been served.

However, what comes next with Al Sharpton and the other racial agitators?

Not everyone will agree justice has been served without viewing the evidence that was used to make that decision. Multiple bullets into an unarmed man needs to be explained.

"Brown, an 18-year-old African American, was shot dead after he was pulled over by the Mr Wilson in August while walking down the middle of the road with a friend, Dorian Johnson.

Mr Wilson says Brown leant through his window and attacked him, at which time two shots were fired, once of them hitting Brown's arm. According to Mr Wilson, Brown then ran away, stopped and turned to lunge at him, at which point he shot Brown at least six times.

According to evidence presented Brown and his friend had been earlier stolen cigars from a local store, and Mr Wilson considered them suspects for the theft." (From above news post)

It was explained thoroughly to the grand jury which saw and heard all of the evidence.

There was blood in the officer's car and wounds to his face from Brown leaning into his car and attacking him. The officer then fired twice, hitting Brown in the arm. The officer stated that due to the size of Brown he didn't think he could take a third blow to the face without losing consciousness so he fired.

Brown left, the officer followed and Brown turned back to attack the officer. That's when the idiot got himself shot. Brown was way too big for the officer to handle physically, Brown had punched the officer wounding him, and when he turned and came back the officer had NO obligation to accept any more bodily injury from Brown.

End of.

Not quite the same version of events that numerous witnesses put forward that was completely ignored.

You have clung clearly to the white/police/justice department version of events.

Maybe because you personally prefer the white version.

For whatever that reason may be.

Racism?

[Ulysses G.]

I would have preffered 'Mr Brown', that would have shown some respect.

Mr Brown attacked a police officer. How much respect does he deserve?