webfact Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Dutch club in Stockholm drops black-faced Santa's helpersPhoto: Tenorio81, Creative Commons STOCKHOLM: -- A Dutch club in Stockholm that was planning a festive party featuring Santa alongside a servant with a black painted face has shelved the idea following numerous complaints of racism.Sweden’s Afro-Swedish National Association wrote to the Dutch embassy in Stockholm earlier this month to protest against a party planned on its premises on November 30th, at which the character was set to appear.Black Pete – or Zwarte Piet as he is known in Dutch – was due to arrive at the embassy following a public boat ride from Djurgården to Slussen in Stockholm.The character is usually played by someone wearing black face paint and a wig and regularly appears alongside Saint Nicholas at seasonal Sinterklass celebrations in the Netherlands and Belgium. Read more: The Local Sweden Source: http://scandasia.com/dutch-club-in-stockholm-drops-black-faced-santas-helpers/ -- ScandAsia 2014-11-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 Now they have even banned Black Pete. Political correctness is like a disease. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustBucket Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 PC gone crazy..... We will eventually reach a point in time where we will all have to hide our black people in case someone thinks it is racist to have any living in your country. I think it is an honour to be Santa's right hand man regardless of colour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lust Posted November 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted November 25, 2014 You got one group screaming about why can't elves be black? And another group screaming black elves are racist. Just can't win. And this is why we will never have world peace lol. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 PC gone crazy..... We will eventually reach a point in time where we will all have to hide our black people in case someone thinks it is racist to have any living in your country. I think it is an honour to be Santa's right hand man regardless of colour. Except, it wasn't a black man. "...a servant with a black painted face..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zydeco Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 PC gone crazy..... We will eventually reach a point in time where we will all have to hide our black people in case someone thinks it is racist to have any living in your country. I think it is an honour to be Santa's right hand man regardless of colour. Except, it wasn't a black man. "...a servant with a black painted face..." Sort of like Laurence Olivier's portrayal with a black painted face of Shakespeare's Othello. Othello and Black Pete, you see, are both Moors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 ... An unpaid servant who's black.... Daddy, i didn't know Santa was a slave owner?? Just kidding... It's actually a bit funny, as a business associate was in Thailand from HKG a couple weeks ago and we were talking about how over the top PC the US had become... And my colleague joked about Black Pete and how if in the US, people would be going crazy ... Seems it is not just US that is PC ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 It's the Darkie/Darlie story; has ever anywhere on this planet a white arse sued anybody else for calling him/her a white arse? Next is the intervention of Katoeys about Father Christmas who actually was a transgender ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keestha Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Right now there is a lot of fuss (even violent demonstrations) in Holland about Black Pete, the helper/servant of Santa Claus. Black Dutch people, mainly originating from former Dutch colonies, feel discriminated. When I was a child, I was always told Pete was black because he had to creep through chimneys to deliver presents to children, deposit them into their shoes when they were sleeping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 PC gone crazy..... We will eventually reach a point in time where we will all have to hide our black people in case someone thinks it is racist to have any living in your country. I think it is an honour to be Santa's right hand man regardless of colour. Except, it wasn't a black man. "...a servant with a black painted face..." I totally missed the painted face part. Reading comprehension owns me. Makes me think of this movie lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 See post #11. These are the kinds of people who come out of the woodwork because of ignorant exibitions like this. On the other hand, it's great that they are exposed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudopode Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Try should ban st Nicolas. He is white. That's racist! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puipuitom Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 For me, Dutchman, and ... playing 11 years for Black Peter ( Zwarte Piet ) , the entire story around this the last 2 years is beyond any comprehension. An in fact fairy tale person, who works as servant / companion of Sinterklaas ( Saint Nicolas), in which children of 2-7 believe in, is harmed only because a 2-3 % let themselves be influenced by a few in several brown tints coloured immigrants into the Netherlands see it as a remembrance of the slavery period, ended a 175 years ago. So, next step: the old "bishop" ( Saint Nicolas) , who rides on a white horse "from roof to roof " has to be replaced: must be spread over more transport means, religions, and of course male / female: so next year: a Buddhist non riding on a camel and the year after a rabbi using a squad Compare it with: the Labour Department forbids the elves to work so hard at the workshops of Santa ( The American interpretation of Sinterklaas), so no boxing day at 26 Dec, as.. all toys cannot be ready in time. Also the Animal Welfare Organisations mix in this issue: the reindeers are not allowed to fly through the cold sky, but only walk on the surface. Also a reason, why all parcels cannot be delivered in time. For Thailand especially: the Environment Front forbids the throwing of water to each other ( Songkran) and leaving little boats in the water at Loi Kratong. How you think the Thai will react ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapfries Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I am a Dutchman and I grew-up with Sinterklaas & Zwarte Piet - and I have nothing but great memories from these once-a-year traditions. I most certainly did not become a "discriminator" or a "hater" of any kind. To me; a person is a nice person, until he/she does something to erase my respect, but NEVER based on Race, Color, Religion (although Islam is pushing my envelope somewhat . . .). Interesting article, about the Dutch in Sweden: now we know where a lot of spineless Dutchies have gone . . . . . . . . ("a lot"; I did NOT say "all" !). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Racist posts and posts with profanity have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I wonder what the majority of African descent Dutch people think about this tradition. If they're mostly offended, then I think it's a problem. If not, it isn't. Personally, I stopped caring about what the Dutch did since that time in a "cafe" in Amsterdam ... I think this issue is similar to the Washington Redskins naming controversy. It seems most Native Americans are offended by that and I think that means EVENTUALLY the name is going to be changed. Edited November 25, 2014 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexicanFarang Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You could tell when they danced. No rythmn... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think this issue is similar to the Washington Redskins naming controversy. Good example. They are equally silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBouy Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You could tell when they danced. No rythmn... That stereotypical statement is proof of you head being used all to often as a pinata! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidee Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 sinterklaas & zwarte piet are as real as any god, allah ... old joke : a black man with a job, that is really rare to see in any western country ... they prefer social services, unemployment, etc... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 How long before the law will be to have a black Santa with white Pete's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teatree Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The hypocrisy of PC. White person putting on ANY black make up in ANY context = Racist Black person putting on white make up (Eddie murphy impersonating a white guy in 'Coming to America' or the Wayans bros impersonating hiso white girls in 'White Chicks') = Not racist at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eliot Rosewater Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 PC gone crazy..... We will eventually reach a point in time where we will all have to hide our black people in case someone thinks it is racist to have any living in your country. I think it is an honour to be Santa's right hand man regardless of colour. Santa is a cracker and no self respecting brother would step and fetch it for that honky Black folk got kwanzaa anyway, don't need no uppity fat white man in a red suit ordering around elves and raindeer; sheeeeeeeaaaaat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sustento Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Ah diddums... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Beale Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 PC gone crazy..... We will eventually reach a point in time where we will all have to hide our black people in case someone thinks it is racist to have any living in your country. I think it is an honour to be Santa's right hand man regardless of colour. Except, it wasn't a black man. "...a servant with a black painted face..." Sort of like Laurence Olivier's portrayal with a black painted face of Shakespeare's Othello. Othello and Black Pete, you see, are both Moors. Strange that the Moors are now thought of as black when they were North African Arabs/Berbers. Most Moroccans would not be too happy if you called them black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
englishoak Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I wondered what the black and white minstrels did for work these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Funny thing is, black isn't a colour at all! Next time, perhaps they should use someone black ... and paint their face white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon022 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The west keeps on coming up with stuff to make life less enjoyable. Black Pete is black 'cause he frequents the chimneys to deliver his boss' gifts, not because he is his African slave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verywierd Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 You might think it logical that "Black Pete" was black because he was in the chimneys all the time and not a racial reference at all. English chimney sweeps (little boys) were generally portrayed as black faced due to the dirt and soot that was part of their everyday life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony5 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 How long more before the PC brigade gone claim Saint Nicholas is actually a pedo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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