Family of Brits murdered in Thailand say evidence convincing

[balo]

Has anyone seen or heard about Nomsods brother ?.

Seems strange that he is never mentioned !

Does anyone know how big the family of the headman is? Maybe many sisters and brothers , who knows, but they are not suspects , why would they be?

Edited December 27, 2014 by balo

[boomerangutang]

Has anyone seen or heard about Nomsods brother ?.

Seems strange that he is never mentioned !

I saw a mention of the brother on social media. Someone who knows the family mentioned the following, and I paraphrase from recollection of the posting:

The other brother is a katoy (lady-boy) or gay or both. The dad, and probably the rest of the family chided the effeminate boy, while favoring/encouraging the hetero boy to do what heteros are supposed to do. At a beach resort, where daddy and uncle are rich and own clubs, the hetero boy (Nomsod) could show he's a man by seducing some of the multitudes of cute (and loose, drunk) farang chicks who go to those bars every night.

Note: when local guys hang out at bars at all hours, get drunk and often score with loose pretty chicks to seduce, they often have a plan. I was in a similar situation at a bar in Majorca Spain - where I played in a club R&B band every night, all summer. Each night, there was a new chick who wanted to get cozy with me, the lead guitarist. It was heaven-on-earth for a 16 yr old hetero guy. I would take their hand, walk 'em down to some particular rocks by the beach, and we'd make out.

Fast-forward to 2014, Ko Tao beach, rocky/romantic place by the beach. Now I'm an old guy, but there are young handsome guys who hang at the nearby bars and score often, maybe a different chick every night. One night, the girl is particularly cute, and more than one guy is hoping to get lucky with her. He/they cajole her to going down to the regular rocky-nook place. What happens next, is up for interpretation, ....but a beautiful young girl got raped and murdered, and most of us on this thread want the cops to do their job - find the criminals, and nail them for the crime.

[thailandchilli]

@ aimbc

Here is a short section from the coroners advice handbook.

Inquests are almost always held in open court, where the public can attend.

Journalists may also attend and report what has taken place.

The coroner’s office will not release any information to the media which has not

already been made public through an inquest, unless the next of kin gives his

or her consent.

This means that any member of the public can go to the inquest.

Im pretty sure there are members on here who may attend.

As I recall the date of 6th Jan is for Hannah's inquest but I may be wrong, do we know anything about Davids inquest, when that will be? I haven't seen anything on this.

Edited December 27, 2014 by thailandchilli

[siampolee]

Now we see again the matter that the press were very well aware of regarding the homosexual angle in this crime.

It has been kept under wraps as one might find that certain family members might well be rather more implicated in matters than they wish the police to know.

There is a connection between the gay scene and a policeman on the island, now perchance the fact might well be that a fit of jealously overcomes a person or persons who had been looking lovingly at a fellow male then he or they find that that male is not inclined to homosexuality and is in fact with a female.

Jealously is a powerful violent inciting emotion.

In any investigation all avenues are taken and along the way the correct avenue is found or perhaps in this case on Koh Tao that avenue has been found but those who mapped the road now wish to rewrite or even destroy that road map to protect either themselves or their friends.

[AleG]

Business in Koh Tao is obviously bad for the sock puppets friends, take no notice of their bias views and conflict of interests. The only people being intellectually dishonest on these threads is them. Ignore the parasites and expose the cover up being perpetrated by the RTP!

Here's a quote from none other than AleG on another thread!

I have no illusions that influential people in Koh Tao would prefer to keep deaths, accidental or otherwise, as hushed as possible, the careless paradise island image sells after all. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/785549-inquest-of-derby-man-found-dead-in-koh-tao/?p=8829699

For once we agree

<snip>

Oh, another stalker.

Besides that, congratulations, you just proved your (and your friends) claims that I am a shill for the Koh Tao influential families is nothing but conspiracist paranoia.

[AleG]

So now you're playing the dumb part? Oh yeah speculating isn't your thing is it?

Mind you it wasn't the Senior Thai policeman a thing either when he intimated David's friend killed them both in a jealous rage eh?

Your comments and responses bore the shit out of me too but they're great entertainment !!

No, I'm not playing the dumb part, did they say who this influential people are, and if not, why?

Unless you are satisfied with empty rhetoric and don't want to know the facts of the case you should be asking the same question.

See my 2nd comment below why it would be stupid and dangerous for them to say who they think committed those murders (though in their earlier letter, they mentioned 'influential people' and someone who was no longer in Thailand). In a weird twist, if the men who really should be suspects are ever brought to trial (very unlikely), the the B2 would be useless as witnesses, because of what they said yesterday.

I don't want to throw a curved ball into the discussion, so apols if I am doing so. But on reading the news reports and seeing how the Burmese men continue to say they were drunk, I am getting this uncomfortable feeling that there is a possibility they may have actually witnessed the murders, or at the least, saw something that they shouldn't have.

I could also fathom that the B2 know more about the crime than they're letting on. Their lawyers probably told them to keep it simple: plead innocent, ....say they were drunk, went back to their cabin to sleep.

If the B2 start speaking up (assuming they know what really happened), they could open up cans of worms, and endanger their lives. One morning we may read the headline: 'Burmese Suspects Hang Themselves in Prison due to Overwhelming Remorse.'

So they don't say who did it because they fear for their lives if they speak up... but they are facing the prospect of a death sentence if they don't, your argument is nonsense.

Besides that, you claim their lawyers are telling them to lie and let the "real murderers" go unpunished, I see, now even the defense team is into the conspiracy.

[greenchair]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/11313714/Koh-Tao-murders-suspects-in-killing-of-David-Miller-and-Hannah-Witheridge-say-they-were-framed.html

Prosecution documents seen by The Telegraph allege the two men repeatedly smashed and chopped Mr Miller's face and head many times, which resulted in his death.

They are then alleged to have beaten Ms Witheridge until she was unconscious before raping her. Finally the men smashed and chopped her head with a hoe in order to kill her and cover up her sexual assault and Mr Millers murder.

His head wasn't smashed was it?

I thought he was drowned too?

Who was restraining Hannah at this gruesome point, or was she waiting politely?

How does smashing splitting her skull almost in two cover up a sexual assualt?

Are these guys the strongest Hobbits on record?

What a complete ant utter sham!!!

"How does smashing splitting her skull almost in two cover up a sexual assualt?"

It leaves no witnesses, for both the rape and the, murder of Miller.

As for the strength of the accused men, you could try an experiment, find some similarly built men and ask them to hit you in the head with a blunt object, a garden hoe or a bottle, as hard as they can... how do you think you'd fare?

Smashing her skull will NOT cover up a sexual assault as has been proven in this very case! Did you fall asleep?

Re. the hoe and bottle: Well it would seem he wasn't hit with either of those !

Do you work for the Thai Police because you certainly sound and act like one of them! You know, like making stupid things up as you go along without thinking things through!

People that say David was hit with a hoe or a bottle like the pancake translator said are not sane, they are insane. Even the "early" RTP recognized that and pointed out a fight and wounds on his knuckles. On top of that the pictures of David his wounds, which are clearly to see on a certain FB page, show beyond any doubt multiple stab wounds. This fact alone will blow away the prosecutors case if they stick to their hoe theory. I am a 100% convinced they were from wannabe bad boy push knifes with one of the attackers being left handed. I heard Mon & NS are both left handed........coincidence?

Punches.jpg

What stands out for me in that article. It says the bodies were dumped at the beach after being mutilated. It has been thought by many that at least hannah was killed somewhere else. Then staged down at the beach. I did not look at all the pictures. But there just did not seem to be much blood on her (bless her )not even on her clothes. This all really is a mystery.

[AleG]

I think it is worth a new post to reiterate 2 facts:

A limited and selected part of the evidence of the prosecution case was shown by the REGION 8 RTP to the families, delivered by GB police.

Their statement was released by the FCO who added the caveat that is does not necessarily reflect the FCO views.

The MET is now issuing radio interviews expressing its SERIOUS doubts about the investigation.

A lot of diplobabble but, if the MET is giving radio interviews, albeit on an afternoon radio show then make no mistake, it is a shot across the bows that the RTP and its sponsors would do well to take note of. This kind of interview is sanctioned at very senior levels and the content meticulously prepared.

In short, the GB police are pretty pi%%ed off at being made to look like the RTP and they are not going to take it lying down.

They may not be being as full on as the Myanmar government BUT they will make their views known.

I still have faith in the British police and its capabilities.

I also think there is a smoking gun out there and it will fire at some point before the trial begins.

Keep these threads populated with positive stuff.

I know you don't want anyone disturbing the echo chamber but...

Two facts?

"A limited and selected part of the evidence of the prosecution case was shown by the REGION 8 RTP to the families, delivered by GB police."

You have no idea what information and from whom the UK investigators were privy to. Uninformed speculation =/= fact.

"Their statement was released by the FCO who added the caveat that is does not necessarily reflect the FCO views."

The statement was released through the FCO not by the FCO, that's why the caveat. I'll give that a half a fact score.

As for the "The MET is now issuing radio interviews expressing its SERIOUS doubts about the investigation.", I presume you are referring to the one 15 second snippet at 1:01:50 here?

This is the transcription: "The Metropolitan Police says there is confusion and inconsistencies in the investigation in Thailand into the murders of two British tourists on the island of Koh Tao. Hannah Witheridge and David Miller were killed in September; Scotland Yard, which is observing the Thai inquiry, says there are questions about the strength of the case against the two men from Burma charged with murder."

Incidentally, a search on the transcript of the statement yields no results.

First of, that is not "radio interviews", it's a 15 second statement, second, you gilded the lily by adding SERIOUS to the statement; thirdly it's impossible to know if they are simply acknowledging what people feel or if the statement is the actual position of the Metropolitan Police, an actual interview would had been more clear on that regard.

In any case what is new? there have been many inconsistencies and confusion since day one, this guy did it, no, that guy did it, we have the murderers, oops, it wasn't them. So nothing new there, neither with "there are questions about the strength of the case against the two men from Burma charged with murder", is that acknowledging that some people question strength of the case or is the the Metropolitan Police position on the issue? Since there is no context to those that interviews 15 second statement (or even a source) it is impossible to say.

As one of the two people that transcribed this statement direct from the show hosted on the BBC website I would like to say that you picking apart the embellished statement that one individual felt was necessary isn't going to remove the following facts:

This news item did go out on the BBC

The BBC is very closely monitored. Even an out of place fart gets a written apology on their website within 24 hours

The BBC, though more politically compromised over recent years, has a reputation for accuracy in reporting. This line of communication (i.e. Met -> BBC) is a long established line and can be assumed to be accurate if not retracted, which it hasn't been

Potentially the poster you are picking apart does not understand the nuances of British subtlety. Let me explain. The statement may seem mild to non Brits. To us it basically says "What a MASSIVE balls up that wouldn't stand for 10 seconds in the British legal system, the Met would rather let the whole thing go than submit this evidence." In short that is what most of us Brits thought the Met would do with their new "observer only" remit. They didn't observe the "crime" but they observed the police practice. Nobody was stopping them do that and they probably counted on the uncontrollable egos in the RTP to allow this to happen. They had plenty of reason to know this would work as the RTP had run everything up a flagpole before it was checked before the Met arrived. The RTP have no frame of reference for the professionalism of the top boys from the Met as they have nothing to compare to in their own force. They probably assume (as anybody living here has observed in many arenas) that they are the best in the world so they thought they would understand any game the Met were playing.

So, you might wonder, what is the next step in the British game. Well being that they had information that the case was being expedited into the courts this week they put out their little stunt on Monday knowing that the numbers of Brits interested meant that it would be observed. Radio 2 demographic? The same as the Thailand middle aged demographic (i.e. a lot of us). This meant that it was flying about publicly here by the time of the trial. I'll bet good money the RTP are starting to inspect/re-arrange their evidence again in light of this.

Now? Well, the new year is the release of the report. I expect that we'll only get the press release version which will water it down again as the Met will want to influence the RTP but play as few cards as possible. As long as they keep the RTP guessing then they have some control. The RTP are watching their colleagues being arrested around them at the moment and probably don't want to attract any more attention than need be. Sure, inside Thailand, they have some influence but outside Thailand? Nobody could care.

In short I think the Met are playing poker VERY well and may well have all the aces (we don't know but the RTP know even less). Even if they haven't they know that the RTP have nothing worthwhile as they know the evidence is pathetic and compromised.

Slowly but surely the Met can play a game that sees the B2 released. With that done they just need to apply the pressure in the right places and we'll see the right people in their places. The thing is that the Met will play an extraordinarily long game. The RTP are not used to working cold cases whereas the Met rarely close cases and, if they do, are happy to open them up again and don't care if it take 10 years or more (check out "elm guest house" for an example of that).

Ball, firmly, in the Met court.

I look forward to 2015 with great anticipation.

I see that you derive many assumptions from a 15 second statement, in particular I find the assumption that the UK police are playing games for the benefit of the Burmese defendants very unlikely.

Incidentally:

"As one of the two people that transcribed this statement direct from the show hosted on the BBC website I would like to say that you picking apart the embellished statement that one individual felt was necessary isn't going to remove the following facts:

This news item did go out on the BBC

The BBC is very closely monitored. Even an out of place fart gets a written apology on their website within 24 hours

The BBC, though more politically compromised over recent years, has a reputation for accuracy in reporting. This line of communication (i.e. Met -> BBC) is a long established line and can be assumed to be accurate if not retracted, which it hasn't been"

Those are not facts, they are assumptions, you even say it yourself, "This line of communication (i.e. Met -> BBC) is a long established line and can be assumed to be accurate if not retracted, which it hasn't been"

I, for one, find the statement very general and open to interpretation on one hand, and out of synch with both the statements from the families after being briefed by the UK investigators and the police's statement that their report will be released later next month.

[thailandchilli]

After viewing the horrific photos of Hannah online and the position she was in, that to me was not the position of somebody who had tried to fend off attackers who killed her and did indeed look staged.

The RTP official line is that the B2 saw them in an embrace, well that conflicts with earlier reports:

Witheridge, meanwhile, was dragged away from the first attack spot, said the same police officer.

The officer said Witheridge did manage to run for some distance but was hit repeatedly in the face with a hoe which suggested whoever attacked her could have held a personal grudge against her.

https://www.dvb.no/n...a-myanmar/44236

[DennisF]

I have noticed on a couple of posts that certain posters are referring to Nomsod the monk having been cleared.

Who cleared him and was he cleared after an exhaustive and professional investigation and questioning?

Being cleared by the RTP in this case is not credible.

Let me remind you:

The following PROFESSIONAL people and organisations and members of the public have expressed serious concerns as to the handling of this case investigation and prosecution.

UK based fair rights group Reprieve.

Andy Hall well known and highly respected human rights activist.

Amnesty International.

The THAI national human rights committee

Sondhi Limthongkul

Head of Thasi forensics Dr. Pornthip

99% of the posters on this forum (estimate)

Almost 500,000 followers of a social media site that is in the top 18 sites on facebook

Change.org

The UK police who are just now starting to express opinions and views, none of them complimentary to the RTP

Lastly, and by no means least, the whole of the Burmese government has thrown its collective and not inconsiderable weight and influence into the believed innocence of 2 of its poorer citizens.

As for as I am aware this is unprecedented and not only can it bring serious consequences to international and trade relationships that are vital to Thailand it has lifted Myanmar to an elevated status on the international stage that Thaiiand can only envy.

Myanmar, its government and its people, we salute you, you are showing yourself to be awesome.

[DennisF]

A link to the MET statement that cannot be found by RTP apologists.

Took me 30 seconds.

No surprises so far!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=763055970438797&set=vb.596740650403664&type=2&theater

[greenchair]

Has anyone seen or heard about Nomsods brother ?.

Seems strange that he is never mentioned !

I have raised this many times.

Rtp said two have escaped to bkk. One is in Police custody. The other is on the run. The police expect to make an arrest soon. Nobody mentions the brother. I have often wondered if nomsod was a diversion. That would be interesting.

Does anyone remember this news report. Could we get a link.

What is the brothers name.

[Krenjai]

Smashing her skull will NOT cover up a sexual assault as has been proven in this very case! Did you fall asleep?

Re. the hoe and bottle: Well it would seem he wasn't hit with either of those !

Do you work for the Thai Police because you certainly sound and act like one of them! You know, like making stupid things up as you go along without thinking things through!

People that say David was hit with a hoe or a bottle like the pancake translator said are not sane, they are insane. Even the "early" RTP recognized that and pointed out a fight and wounds on his knuckles. On top of that the pictures of David his wounds, which are clearly to see on a certain FB page, show beyond any doubt multiple stab wounds. This fact alone will blow away the prosecutors case if they stick to their hoe theory. I am a 100% convinced they were from wannabe bad boy push knifes with one of the attackers being left handed. I heard Mon & NS are both left handed........coincidence?

Punches.jpg

"People that say David was hit with a hoe or a bottle like the pancake translator said are not sane, they are insane"

I see, the you are crazy if you don't belive what I claim without any proof to support it strategy, it's not very convincing.

You are not a pathologist, I presume, you only saw some pictures on the web, you are not qualified to make an assessment, let alone one that points at "push knifes". In any case the unsourced diagram you posted doesn't show any injuries in the hands.

Like I said insane.....

Edit: Advice for the insane, just Google the RTP press releases pre Sep 23rd.......you will find RTP officers pointing out the injuries on his knuckels which showed he fought with his attackers. Denying this is also insane. The diagram can be found on a certain FB page accompanied with a picture of each stab wound which produced the diagram. It wasn't the Hoe (no dna, nor a bottle (pancake fantasy), it were 99.99% stab wounds which at least 100,000 pathologist will confirm.

Of course you will have some pathologist saying it was a hoe or a bottle, buy hey, I didn't expect anything else.

Edited December 27, 2014 by Krenjai

[greenchair]

Twitter posts by Andy Hall around 8 PM 26 DEC 2014 -- other posts are links to news coverage:

Andy Hall @Atomicalandy

Previous bail request by Myanmar embassy not supported with money, only embassy position & was declined. Lawyers assign embassy bail issues.

Andy Hall @Atomicalandy

Many questions regarding bail for Koh Tao case accused now arising. Bail can be requested by defendants at any time. Decision up to court.

If that is the case. I don't understand why the defense did not reapply for bail.

[thailandchilli]

Has anyone seen or heard about Nomsods brother ?.

Seems strange that he is never mentioned !

I have raised this many times.

Rtp said two have escaped to bkk. One is in Police custody. The other is on the run. The police expect to make an arrest soon. Nobody mentions the brother. I have often wondered if nomsod was a diversion. That would be interesting.

Does anyone remember this news report. Could we get a link.

What is the brothers name.

Yes I remember something about 2 brothers fleeing also so just had a look, here's reference to it:

"The police still wanted to question both for more information, particularly Wiraphan’s two sons who they said have escaped from the island after the murder" http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-twist-murder-two-brits-koh-tao

The article also has some other interesting points such as Sean:

Sean also said he was among a group of people playing guitar on the beach near the scene.

The group was also suspected by the police as they were near the scene.

The gay element raises its head again with Nomsods brother

Edited December 27, 2014 by thailandchilli

[catsanddogs]

@ aimbc

Here is a short section from the coroners advice handbook.

Inquests are almost always held in open court, where the public can attend.

Journalists may also attend and report what has taken place.

The coroner’s office will not release any information to the media which has not

already been made public through an inquest, unless the next of kin gives his

or her consent.

This means that any member of the public can go to the inquest.

Im pretty sure there are members on here who may attend.

I'm going.

[AleG]

Like I said insane.....

Punches.jpg

Edit: Advice for the insane, just Google the RTP press releases pre Sep 23rd.......you will find RTP officers pointing out the injuries on his knuckels which showed he fought with his attackers. Denying this is also insane. The diagram can be found on a certain FB page accompanied with a picture of each stab wound which produced the diagram. It wasn't the Hoe (no dna, nor a bottle (pancake fantasy), it were 99.99% stab wounds which at least 100,000 pathologist will confirm.

Of course you will have some pathologist saying it was a hoe or a bottle, buy hey, I didn't expect anything else.

You know what is insane? Statements like this: "it were 99.99% stab wounds which at least 100,000 pathologist will confirm." Your imagination is not a reflection of reality.

[greenchair]

Has anyone seen or heard about Nomsods brother ?.

Seems strange that he is never mentioned !

I have raised this many times.

Rtp said two have escaped to bkk. One is in Police custody. The other is on the run. The police expect to make an arrest soon. Nobody mentions the brother. I have often wondered if nomsod was a diversion. That would be interesting.

Does anyone remember this news report. Could we get a link.

What is the brothers name.

Yes I remember something about 2 brothers fleeing also so just had a look, here's reference to it:

"The police still wanted to question both for more information, particularly Wiraphans two sons who they said have escaped from the island after the murder" http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-twist-murder-two-brits-koh-tao

The article also has some other interesting points such as Sean:

Sean also said he was among a group of people playing guitar on the beach near the scene.

The group was also suspected by the police as they were near the scene.

The gay element raises its head again with Nomsods brother

1.why does the gay issue come up. Is Nomsods brother gay.

2. Is it a fact that Nomsods brother is in the university.

3.in that article the man in the video say the police is mon.

4.I thought in another article, mon said yes it was himself. He said he was sleeping but ran down to the beach in his underwear because someone woke him up.

5.who was it in the first days that refused to give a dna sample.

[thailandchilli]

Has anyone seen or heard about Nomsods brother ?.

Seems strange that he is never mentioned !

I have raised this many times.

Rtp said two have escaped to bkk. One is in Police custody. The other is on the run. The police expect to make an arrest soon. Nobody mentions the brother. I have often wondered if nomsod was a diversion. That would be interesting.

Does anyone remember this news report. Could we get a link.

What is the brothers name.

Yes I remember something about 2 brothers fleeing also so just had a look, here's reference to it:

"The police still wanted to question both for more information, particularly Wiraphans two sons who they said have escaped from the island after the murder" http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-twist-murder-two-brits-koh-tao

The article also has some other interesting points such as Sean:

Sean also said he was among a group of people playing guitar on the beach near the scene.

The group was also suspected by the police as they were near the scene.

The gay element raises its head again with Nomsods brother

1.why does the gay issue come up. Is Nomsods brother gay.

2. Is it a fact that Nomsods brother is in the university.

3.in that article the man in the video say the police is mon.

4.I thought in another article, mon said yes it was himself. He said he was sleeping but ran down to the beach in his underwear because someone woke him up.

5.who was it in the first days that refused to give a dna sample.

1. I cannot confirm that but apparently he is effeminate according to other posters, I haven't checked online.

2. ??

3. Yes the RTP first identified the running man as Mon, however it looks nothing like him to me and the RTP soon forgot about that as far as I am aware.

4. ?

5. Yes it was Mon who refused to take a DNA test when first questioned, whether he then went on to take one I don't know

[siampolee]

AleG post # 2003

Oh, another stalker.

Besides that, congratulations, you just proved your (and your friends) claims that I am a shill for the Koh Tao influential families is nothing but conspiracist paranoia.

Well your posting style certainly leaves little room for doubt concerning your loyalties and aims concerning this horrific crime on Koh Tao.

The comments you made elsewhere are freely available in the public domain thus free to anyone who may search for any set of words or phrases as a literary forensics exercise privately or as a law keeping entity.

Hence your comments have come back to haunt you, dream weavers need phenomenal memories in case you forgot that fact,

[jpeg]

The UK police who are just now starting to express opinions and views, none of them complimentary to the RTP

I don't believe for a moment, given the ongoing 'specified' arrests of certain of the RTP, that they are ultimately to blame for this cover up. If you get my meaning...

Edited December 27, 2014 by jpeg

[007cableguy]

AleG post # 2003

Oh, another stalker.

Besides that, congratulations, you just proved your (and your friends) claims that I am a shill for the Koh Tao influential families is nothing but conspiracist paranoia.

Well your posting style certainly leaves little room for doubt concerning your loyalties and aims concerning this horrific crime on Koh Tao.

The comments you made elsewhere are freely available in the public domain thus free to anyone who may search for any set of words or phrases as a literary forensics exercise privately or as a law keeping entity.

Hence your comments have come back to haunt you, dream weavers need phenomenal memories in case you forgot that fact,

I don't bother with him now he's a clown like one of his other mates baloo!

[AleG]

AleG post # 2003

Oh, another stalker.

Besides that, congratulations, you just proved your (and your friends) claims that I am a shill for the Koh Tao influential families is nothing but conspiracist paranoia.

Well your posting style certainly leaves little room for doubt concerning your loyalties and aims concerning this horrific crime on Koh Tao.

The comments you made elsewhere are freely available in the public domain thus free to anyone who may search for any set of words or phrases as a literary forensics exercise privately or as a law keeping entity.

Hence your comments have come back to haunt you, dream weavers need phenomenal memories in case you forgot that fact,

And what, pray tell, are those loyalties and aims?

[greenchair]

Has anyone seen or heard about Nomsods brother ?.

Seems strange that he is never mentioned !

I have raised this many times.

Rtp said two have escaped to bkk. One is in Police custody. The other is on the run. The police expect to make an arrest soon. Nobody mentions the brother. I have often wondered if nomsod was a diversion. That would be interesting.

Does anyone remember this news report. Could we get a link.

What is the brothers name.

Yes I remember something about 2 brothers fleeing also so just had a look, here's reference to it:

"The police still wanted to question both for more information, particularly Wiraphans two sons who they said have escaped from the island after the murder" http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/new-twist-murder-two-brits-koh-tao

The article also has some other interesting points such as Sean:

Sean also said he was among a group of people playing guitar on the beach near the scene.

The group was also suspected by the police as they were near the scene.

The gay element raises its head again with Nomsods brother

1.why does the gay issue come up. Is Nomsods brother gay.

2. Is it a fact that Nomsods brother is in the university.

3.in that article the man in the video say the police is mon.

4.I thought in another article, mon said yes it was himself. He said he was sleeping but ran down to the beach in his underwear because someone woke him up.

5.who was it in the first days that refused to give a dna sample.

1. I cannot confirm that but apparently he is effeminate according to other posters, I haven't checked online.

2. ??

3. Yes the RTP first identified the running man as Mon, however it looks nothing like him to me and the RTP soon forgot about that as far as I am aware.

4. ?

5. Yes it was Mon who refused to take a DNA test when first questioned, whether he then went on to take one I don't know

That's the thing about 2.

Even though he was an initial suspect, he has been the quietest little mouse about this. In fact they have all been a little quiet lately. Like suthep.

[siampolee]

AleG post # 2021

And what, pray tell, are those loyalties and aims?

Classic post, showing total denial of your subliminal mindset .

I larf, I larf, I pee I self !!!

Edited December 27, 2014 by siampolee

[AleG]

AleG post # 2021

And what, pray tell, are those loyalties and aims?

Classic post, showing total denial of your subliminal mindset .

I larf, I larf, I pee I self !!!

Pay attention, I'm asking you what are my loyalties and aims, you make an accusation back it up.

[craigt3365]

Stay on topic and please respect other members.

[StealthEnergiser]

Investigative News about the murders demonstrating punch knife damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= WTw6gUVzuCU&list=FLZjkpeVtUivE3bEvIdmlAeA&index=15

here is the link if unable to leave on just join the break

Edited December 27, 2014 by StealthEnergiser

[BritTim]

Investigative News about the murders demonstrating punch knife damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= WTw6gUVzuCU&list=FLZjkpeVtUivE3bEvIdmlAeA&index=15

here is the link if unable to leave on just join the break

Apart from the characteristics of the wounds, the clip makes another very telling point. David had wounds to his hands but not to his arms. Consider what would happen if he just had his arms raised to protect his 1.90 m frame against the 1.42 m superman wielding a hoe. The damage would have been on the arms. No, David was punching one or more attackers. If these were the two Burmese, since they were unmarked, they presumably had the foresight to don armor before initiating the attack.

[DennisF]

It has been mentioned a few times but let us not forget the implications of this seemingly minor oversight in the prosecution case.

It speaks volumes about unethical practices, inefficiency, stupidity and a complete lack of regard for the law.

I am speaking of the fact that one of the B2 was charged with being an illegal immigrant whilst the RTP KNEW from him being arrested that this was not the case.

Logically, this throws into question their reasons, their agenda, their honesty, their integrity and any attempt at trying to solve this crime in a professional and objective way.

In short, they have screwed up massively and the international attention will be much more focused as serious concerns becomes obvious failings.

Edited December 27, 2014 by DennisF