Sydney siege: Gunman takes hostages in Lindt cafe

[JockPieandBeans]

"The list of charges against the Sheikh are extremely long and extremely worrying," she said.

He is believed to be currently on bail for 47 sexual assaults.

http://news.sky.com/story/1392286/sydney-hostage-taker-accused-of-47-sex-attacks

If this is true. It beggars belief.

[chuckd]

One article I read claims he changed from his original Shia position to one of the Sunni's a few years ago.

Hence, his connection with IS and Islamic terrorism.

From the article:

"— He was previously a Shia Muslim, as are most Iranians, but later converted to Sunni Islam and changed his name from Mohammad Hassan Manteghi Bourjerdi to Man Haron Monis."

http://www.vox.com/2014/12/15/7393713/man-haron-monis-sydney

[snarky66]

Both sects are pretty bloodthirsty.

[NeverSure]

Number of injured now up to five according to:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102267599

[ChoakMyDee]

My tolerance for religion is wearing very thin.

I am not religious myself, but this is about one specific religion. You can't lump them all together.

I believe in God but I'm not really into religion although I have met some very good religious people. The problem I have with religion is that a lot of religious people seem to be very closed minded and mean and they seem to want to impose their dogma on people...I don't see God in that equation. I see this in lots of different religions, not just this one. Of course they are not killing people like these Muslim fanatics are so I do understand your point.

[NamKAheng]

According ABC news, 2 hostages and the gunman dead and 4 others injured.

[neverdie]

It's all happening now!

Flashbangs, shots, medics going in, more shots, hostages carried out.

I think the nut has met Allah

Stretchers going in, hope the innocent have survived!

Not police.......that was SAS shock bangs.. SAS dressed in police uniform..............

he's dead! he has been taken out..... they knew via night-vision exactly where he was..........

No, they were Police in Police uniforms.

[neverdie]

I am glad i was wrong

No confirmation of what is happening to him,?

With all your alleged expertise, did you really expect that the authorities were doing nothing whilst you were busy flapping ur gums? Things were happing constantly, the authorities just wernt advertising what it was for reasons that should of been obvious to you. Do you think the police were going to announce to the world via TV so that the offending terrorist could watch it live on the cafe tv?

Sadly, 2 innocents have died, I'm sure you see that as a victory to your statement that the police didn't know what they were doing.

My thoughts are with the family and friends of the innocent victims. I'm hoping the injured make speedy and complete recoveries.

There was apparently 17 hostages to Start with. This could of ended a lot worse, it could of ended better. Very difficult situation indeed. No doubt if you'd been running the show this would of ended perfectly.

I am proud of the work done by the NSW Police and all who supported them. Really proud, these fluid incidents are so very difficult to bring to perfect ending.

I hope this scum bag terrorist suffered as he died. I hope the magistrate or judge that allowed him bail is taking a long hard look at himself this morning. Australia's wish washy criminal justice system has let Sydney's society down again. Too many offender rights. Disgusting.

Now that the real professionals have dealt with the hostage situation, I

Look forward to your analysis about who or what this idiot belongs to.

As I said before, the professional police and their supporters have done a good job in a very difficult circumstances. If mistakes were made, they will be exposed in the subsequent investigation which is underway.

Sadly, it's time for Sydney to heal and get prepared for the next idiot scum bag terrorist.

Edited December 15, 2014 by neverdie

[Roadman]

Caught this on CNN

(CNN) -- A social media campaign condemning Islamophobia under the hashtag #illridewithyou has taken off after an armed man who may have links to radical Islam took hostages in Sydney.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/15/world/asia/australia-hostage-illridewithyou/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

This stuff makes me proud to be Australian. It reaffirms my trust in humanity and humanism. It endorses modern Australian society as open, fair and tolerant.

Kudos to the police who acted calmly and professionally throughout the day. Am very saddened that the resolution of the hostage incident seems to have involved the death of someone apart from the hostage taker. No doubt extensive post-mortems of the action will now take place and more information will be available. Then informed comments can be made unlike much of this thread to date.

Good post Tep.

Condolences to the family and friends of the victims of this evil bastards actions.

And agree Tep...well done to the Aussies both the professionals who had to deal to this evil bastard and to the Aussie public who have stood up on behalf of everyday citizens regardless of their religious creed who just want to live in peace and never for one moment think to step anywhere near or over radical lines.

[nottocus]

Will be interesting to see who shot the hostages.

[chooka]

It's all happening now!

Flashbangs, shots, medics going in, more shots, hostages carried out.

I think the nut has met Allah

Stretchers going in, hope the innocent have survived!

Not police.......that was SAS shock bangs.. SAS dressed in police uniform..............

he's dead! he has been taken out..... they knew via night-vision exactly where he was..........

No, they were Police in Police uniforms.

Yes definately police and one has been shot in the face as confirmed by the chief commissioner

[wooloomooloo]

Will be interesting to see who shot the hostages.

Matters little to the victims families. Casualties of war, unfortunately.

There was a chance to end this earlier on when Mr Jihad was offering his head up in windows every five minutes. There was operational reasons why he wasn't taken out at that time and believe me, if the order was given to snipe him, he would have been blown into last week.

It's a nasty business dealing with nutters and there was little chance of a better outcome as time went on. The majority escaped with their lives is the best deal there was.

[ChoakMyDee]

IMO it was a huge mistake to not shoot him in the head when he was stood in the window earlier on. It could have saved a couple lives.

[slipperylobster]

Terrorism/ fanatics...

The real world. Nobody likes it....especially when it is brought to your town.

Something we have been fighting against...for a very long time. It is insidious...and can happen to anyone, anywhere.

That is why we try to stop it.

[DaffyDuck]

A couple of mouthpieces should now fill their mouths with large slices of humble pie.

They won't.

[DaffyDuck]

Why are they not using snipers? This should have been over within hours.

[dexterm]

It is very very sad that it has ended this way with two innocent people killed.

I have no sympathy for the terrorist at all. Good riddance. He’s not a victim. He chose to walk into a cafe with a shotgun intent on violence.

But the unilateral decision by Tony Abbot to involve Australia in a civil war 8,000 miles away, which is none of its business, put Australians needlessly at risk.

[slipperylobster]

The idiots from some of the MSn already labeling this a lone wolf attack. The inference, nothing to see here, just a nutter, a one off, don't worry, all is right with the world. How many lone wolfs before these brainwashed idiots understand they are in a war.

Sadly, ignorance is bliss. As you can see, soft targets are easy picking for these nutters. Going around in your own naive little fantasy of bliss, and condemning others for acting in a preventative matter, makes it even easier for the nutters.

[slipperylobster]

But the unilateral decision by Tony Abbot to involve Australia in a civil war 8,000 miles away, which is none of its business, put Australians needlessly at risk.

As is hiding your head in a hole...and pretending everything is ok...in the world.

[Steely Dan]

It is very very sad that it has ended this way with two innocent people killed.

I have no sympathy for the terrorist at all. Good riddance. He’s not a victim. He chose to walk into a cafe with a shotgun intent on violence.

But the unilateral decision by Tony Abbot to involve Australia in a civil war 8,000 miles away, which is none of its business, put Australians needlessly at risk.

Just as the decision by a Dane to draw some cartoons put Denmark at risk, or Spain's inevitable refusal to become part of the Caliphate will put them at risk.

Oh well, all that's left is for the BBC and CNN to run headlines over fears of a backlash and an interview with some shrouded woman claiming a stranger called her names.

[Jay Sata]

It is very very sad that it has ended this way with two innocent people killed.

I have no sympathy for the terrorist at all. Good riddance. Hes not a victim. He chose to walk into a cafe with a shotgun intent on violence.

But the unilateral decision by Tony Abbot to involve Australia in a civil war 8,000 miles away, which is none of its business, put Australians needlessly at risk.

Sorry but the mistake was to allow this guy asylum when all he wanted to do was rant and upset Australians.

He should never have been allowed in Oz and certainly not allowed bail.

We have the same son of bitches in the UK trying to turn the place in to a Sharia ruled burka wearing Middle Ages desert.

Some of the leftie liberals who defend the raping animals in Rotherham etc might change their tune if they saw their loved ones massacred in the name of the crazy fairy in the sky.

[ozsamurai]

[Mosha]

It is very very sad that it has ended this way with two innocent people killed.

I have no sympathy for the terrorist at all. Good riddance. He’s not a victim. He chose to walk into a cafe with a shotgun intent on violence.

But the unilateral decision by Tony Abbot to involve Australia in a civil war 8,000 miles away, which is none of its business, put Australians needlessly at risk.

The problems started when Australia started letting these"refugees" in.

[Jay Sata]

It is very very sad that it has ended this way with two innocent people killed.

I have no sympathy for the terrorist at all. Good riddance. Hes not a victim. He chose to walk into a cafe with a shotgun intent on violence.

But the unilateral decision by Tony Abbot to involve Australia in a civil war 8,000 miles away, which is none of its business, put Australians needlessly at risk.

The problems started when Australia started letting these"refugees" in.

These people are not refugees.

They are running from their own countries because of their crazy radical ideas.

Religion is a poison which un diluted causes big problems.

Radical Christian fundamentalists in the USA, extreme Jewish fundamentalists in Israel and the biggest poison fairytale of the lot the Muslim fundamentalists.

All three want to take us back to the Middle Ages and the fighting they saw as a way of life then.

I don't buy that stuff and believe in the French secular model.

Religion is poison and this Muslim stuff is potent.

We need some weed killer pronto.

[Kooweerup]

And the nut jobs and lunatics are out.

Sydney Non-Hostage siege HOAX: Actors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=D7TUXYUS-Xw

[ozsamurai]

[Mosha]

Will be interesting to see who shot the hostages.

BBC News. Police commissioner " 2 gun shots were heard from inside the cafe, then the police moved in."

[Jay Sata]

No one will beat the Aussie battlers.

She'll be right mate and more power to Tony Abbott.

[ExPratt]

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It's all happening now!
Flashbangs, shots, medics going in, more shots, hostages carried out.

I think the nut has met Allah

Stretchers going in, hope the innocent have survived!

Not police.......that was SAS shock bangs.. SAS dressed in police uniform..............
he's dead! he has been taken out..... they knew via night-vision exactly where he was..........

No, they were Police in Police uniforms.

Yes definately police and one has been shot in the face as confirmed by the chief commissioner

Quote from Beeb , who knows how accurate it is

"Local media reports suggest the commandos from the Royal Australian Regiment entered the building after the gunman started firing shots."

[webfact]

Sydney siege: Three dead after commandos storm cafe

(BBC) Two people died, along with an Islamist gunman, after commandos stormed a cafe in Sydney, Australia, to bring to an end a 16-hour siege.

The gunman, identified as an Iranian refugee, had taken dozens of hostages.

Four people were injured, including a policeman hit by shotgun pellets.

Central Sydney was put in lockdown when the gunman seized the hostages early on Monday, forcing some of them to hold up a black Islamic banner at the window of the Lindt cafe.

The Lindt Chocolat Cafe is located in Martin Place, a busy shopping area in Sydney's financial district.

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-30485355


-- BBC 2014-12-16