Thailand's NBTC to meet Facebook for cooperation

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NBTC to meet Facebook for cooperation



BANGKOK: -- The National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) is to ask for cooperation from Facebook to help stop messages considered lese majeste.

NBTC and Facebook Thailand representatives will meet Monday to discuss the state’s request and find possible mean to prosecute senders of messages offensive to the monarchy.

NBTC secretary general Mr Takorn Tantasith said that the meeting will focus on how to identify Facebook users who post messages defaming the Monarch which under Article 112 of the Criminal Code is considered a lese majeste.

He added that Facebook Thailand representatives would be requested to consult their parent company in California about a possibility to trace the senders.

The NBTC is cooperating with the Special Branch Police to strictly prosecute those charged with lese majesty. Takorn warned those who were aiming or trying to commit such an offense to stop their action; or they will face drastic legal action.

[ikke]

Another proof that the Junta is not governing, but hunting !

[EnzoRippo]

Who is the source / writer?

Is it me or this article sounds "weak"? The writer, NBTC, Facebook, all of them seem to know that the step is absolutely useless, pointless, hopeless and other words in -less.

[pantareiyingluck]

Another proof that the Junta is not governing, but hunting !

Interesting. FB's success is thanks to freedom of speech. They are not going to ruin that reputation for the sake of some witch hunters in Thailand. I can hear the laughter in California...... Has Takorn anything more useful to do?

[Bluespunk]

"He added that Facebook Thailand representatives would be requested to consult their parent company in California about a possibility to trace the senders."

End of FB in Thailand if they do.

LM today, tomorrow who knows what?

[samsensam]

facebook supporting and condoning lese majeste laws that civilised countries did away with hundreds of years ago .

good luck with that.

[jaltsc]

"The National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission (NBTC) is to ask for cooperation from Facebook to help stop messages considered lese majeste."

Just what Facebook needs to do to make its stock value rise.

[BirdsandBooze]

It might be time to think about changing the country's name back to Siam again as the meaning of the present one is hardly appropriate.

Edited December 29, 2014 by BirdsandBooze

[Just1Voice]

THAILAND: "We demand that you block this list of websites, and give us private information on users!"

FACEBOOK:

Grow up, Thailand. It's the 21st Century, not the 12th, and the world has moved on. And, no, sorry to break it to you, but Thailand is NOT the center of the universe.

[kriswillems]

Wow, great news. Soon it will over and out with facebook in Thailand.

Facebook never made concessions, even not in China, which is a huge market.

So, there's only one way .... block facebook and Line too....

or even better, just block the whole internet.

Wait a minute. I have an idea.

Why not make a Thai internet, with only news and servers in Thailand?

It's very easy to do, just cut the international lines.

Once you have a pure Thai internet, you have complete control.

I am sure there soon will be pure Thai alternatives to facebook and you could the 12 points from mister Prayut in all advertisement banners.

Wouldn't that be great!

Edited December 29, 2014 by kriswillems

[rakman]

FB caved to China's demands. And has adjusted to other situations.

To operate in Thailand, it has to obey local laws.

[kriswillems]

FB caved to China's demands. And has adjusted to other situations.

To operate in Thailand, it has to obey local laws.

Facebook is blocked in China.

Websites are international.

A website like facebook can't possibly comply with all local laws of all countries and regions.

It's technically very hard to impossible to block articles on facebook, because within seconds they are copied and shared over thousands of accounts.

Just look at google, it has also stopped accepting all youtube removal requests from the Thai government starting from the second part of 2013.

There's really only one way : block facebook now!

Edited December 29, 2014 by kriswillems

[iReason]

"...they will face drastic legal action."

The Fascists aren't content with just threatening to shut down newspapers.

Absolute dinosaurs.

[Thai at Heart]

Nothing is stopping anyone from suing a Facebook user.

I suggest that the Junta actually start by bringing a case and see what happens.

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[kotsak]

Actually they can charge FB with LM similar to what they did with that Thai webmaster a few years ago for letting some "bad" comments stay on the weboard for a few days.. :>

[Commerce]

Actually they can charge FB with LM similar to what they did with that Thai webmaster a few years ago for letting some "bad" comments stay on the weboard for a few days.. :>

'They', who ever 'they' are, can charge who they like. Unfortunately, fb is not answerable to Thai law ....

Fb will not have to pay a cent, as it is not a Thai company, whereas Thai webmaster operated in Thailand independently.

What is at issue here is freedom of speech, and who (in their right mind as leaders of a country) would not accept a few 'bad' comments, but rather take them seriously?

Who gives a flying >deleted<<< as to charging fb? Grow up kotsak, you know fb is more powerful and richer than any >>>deleteder< in Thailand.

Have a nice day.

[Commerce]

FB caved to China's demands. And has adjusted to other situations.

To operate in Thailand, it has to obey local laws.

FB did not cave to China's demands whatsoever. It is blocked by Chinese govnt authorities.

To operate globally, fb obeys US laws only, but does take into account its own levels of acceptability.

FB does not have to answer to or obey Thai rules....... it is a global corporation now.

If you believe fb has to answer to Thai local laws........ pls.... link me to proof, especially concerning LM, and FB responsibility for such!

[alocacoc]

End of FB in Thailand if they do.

I wouldn't miss it.

[arrowsdawdle]

Facebook is bigger and in many ways far more powerful than this pathetic dictatorsip.

I can't tell if that makes me happy or sad.

Why would you indulge in happiness or sadness over reality?

[arrowsdawdle]

THAILAND: "We demand that you block this list of websites, and give us private information on users!"

FACEBOOK:

Grow up, Thailand. It's the 21st Century, not the 12th, and the world has moved on. And, no, sorry to break it to you, but Thailand is NOT the center of the universe.

Mom watching son's school band marching in a parade, "Would you look at that. Everybody is out of step but my Lek!"

[kriswillems]

Most problematic facebook accounts are from Thai people that are either living abroad or that are using fake names.
Suing these people is almost impossible.
There are professors from Thammasaat and Chula that live abroad because of 112 and they have more than 100000 followers on facebook.
Their messages get shared over thousands of other facebook accounts within minutes.

There is really only one way: block facebook for the happiness of the Thai people.

Edited December 29, 2014 by kriswillems

[Lupatria]

"He added that Facebook Thailand representatives would be requested to consult their parent company in California about a possibility to trace the senders."

End of FB in Thailand if they do.

LM today, tomorrow who knows what?

Book burning (because its so cold) new speak (because we help you to articulate) and thought police (because our uneducated folks have a problem with the right mindset)

[Thai at Heart]

Actually they can charge FB with LM similar to what they did with that Thai webmaster a few years ago for letting some "bad" comments stay on the weboard for a few days.. :>

'They', who ever 'they' are, can charge who they like. Unfortunately, fb is not answerable to Thai law ....

Fb will not have to pay a cent, as it is not a Thai company, whereas Thai webmaster operated in Thailand independently.

What is at issue here is freedom of speech, and who (in their right mind as leaders of a country) would not accept a few 'bad' comments, but rather take them seriously?

Who gives a flying >deleted<<< as to charging fb? Grow up kotsak, you know fb is more powerful and richer than any >>>deleteder< in Thailand.

Have a nice day.

Well, then the obligation would.fall on the Thai authorities to block Facebook and the Junta would have to explain why.

[ikke]

Most problematic facebook accounts are from Thai people that are either living abroad or that are using fake names.

Suing these people is almost impossible.

There are professors from Thammasaat and Chula that live abroad because of 112 and they have more than 100000 followers on facebook.

Their messages get shared over thousands of other facebook accounts within minutes.

There is really only one way: block facebook for the happiness of the Thai people.

block facebook for the happiness of Thai people ????

For me blocking a website is no problem, when I am in China i continue true a proxy, no problem and they can't block anything..

[kuifje]

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Facebook is now available/accesseble in China in some area's. Its been opening up since 1-2 years. But not many Chinese you it because they have a very powerfull Chinese version.

Facebook is blocked in China.

FB caved to China's demands. And has adjusted to other situations.

To operate in Thailand, it has to obey local laws.

Websites are international.

A website like facebook can't possibly comply with all local laws of all countries and regions.
It's technically very hard to impossible to block articles on facebook, because within seconds they are copied and shared over thousands of accounts.

Just look at google, it has also stopped accepting all youtube removal requests from the Thai government starting from the second part of 2013.

There's really only one way : block facebook now!

Facebook is limited available in China in some area's since 1-2 years. Many Chinese don't know yet and they use other social media.

For some expats living in China, Facebook was always open through different servers.

Edited December 29, 2014 by kuifje

[BillyBobThai]

Maybe this will be the straw that breaks the camel's back and things will finally change.

[maidee]

if thailand blocks facebook

what will all those poor souls do with taking selfies, pictures of their breakfast, lunch, dinner, what they dropped in the toilet ????

what will happen to those people with thousands of friends, oh my god, the end of the world

for them ...

i will smile

[Nuddy]

I think it is unfair for a company like FaceBook to post notices that are "in the face" of a country.

Obviously there is a debate about these laws but really FaceBook operates within this country with the grace of the Government and its Head of State.

Freedom of press is the challenge I suppose but really Thailand has a different set of values many of which are extremely good.

I think FaceBook should backdown if they continue to wish to operate with the grace of this country's Government and Head of State.

[kmj]

Facebook will not blink an eye.

[rickirs]

"focus on how to identify Facebook users who post messages defaming the Monarch"

This is a filmsy excuse to go after anyone who posts anything perceived as critical of the Junta and/or creates a mood of political conflict. Both Facebook and Google have dealt with similar efforts of censorship with Thailand's new role model China where the internet market is six times Thailand's market. I don't think Facebook will cooperate to the level NBTC requires. Thailand's internet censorship is one element that will leave it behind in the ASEAN Community digital enterprise.