Yingluck 'involved in corruption'

[English 1]

It would be good to see the corrupt schemer behind bars .....

But in Thailand I don't think it will happen....pity!

[empireboy]

Rightly or wrongly, the majority should be able to have the government they elect and the 'Losers' should peacefully accept defeat... the rest is incidental.

[KhnomKhnom]

Recent practice, several decades at least, has shown that when the rich do bad, they just pay money. So, in this case just have she and her brother pay restitution of the money lost from Thailand coffers and all becomes righted in the world again.

[DLock]

Thaksin is preparing the spare bedroom as we speak.

He knows he is 100% responsible for putting her up to this scam and ordering her how to manage it.

Does he feel bad? Hell no....Angry that he failed? Hell yes. Vindictive...more than ever.

She is guilty of believing she could somehow do the job with a second rate degree, no experience and a lack of English, accounting, economic and political ability. Dumb.

The only thing that the Reds have is "...but...but...but she was elected democratically...", as if that makes it all right. It doesn't.

Time to sacrifice the flat faced sister worth the unusually large head.

[Thaddeus]

Rightly or wrongly, the majority should be able to have the government they elect and the 'Losers' should peacefully accept defeat... the rest is incidental.

Said Putin.

[tkramer]

"Rightly or wrongly, the majority should be able to have the government they elect and the 'Losers' should peacefully accept defeat... the rest is incidental."

Good luck with that.

[Tatsujin]

Meanwhile the case against the Democrats for their 700 billion loss 15 years ago has expired without charge. Their own 40 billion/year rice scheme corruption goes unchallenged because the records were lost in the flood.

The 'law' in this country is nothing more than a politicised attack dog for a small group of powerbrokers.

"The 'law' in this country is nothing more than a politicised attack dog for a small group of powerbrokers" ... indeed, and the Shinawatra's took full advantage of it in exactly the same way when they were in power ... pastry with your coffee anyone?

[aliep]

This has one purpose only, to convict Yingluck of some offence or other so that under the new constitution she cannot be eligible to stand as an election candidate. She will be the first of many.

[sweatalot]

These Junta clowns are repeating their 2006 failure. They have silenced all opposition voices with their guns and oppression and now idiotically believe that the dearth of criticism of their ridiculously biased actions is proof of their correctness and vast public support - idiots one and all. This right wing extremist joke is hurtling inevitably towards its deserved demise

"Examples need to be set that those who commit wrong will be punished, so no future leaders dare repeat these actions. This will create sustainable reconciliation," the NACC member said.

- Does this line of thinking apply to the Army leaders and the coups they continually inflict upon the nation? Selective justice is no justice at all!

Reconciliation cannot be forced by one side onto the other at the barrel of a gun.

Mmay be reconciliating with criminals is not the right means to get things straight

[sweatalot]

This has one purpose only, to convict Yingluck of some offence or other so that under the new constitution she cannot be eligible to stand as an election candidate. She will be the first of many.

The purpose is to use law against wrongdoers

[Sparkles]

Didn't help her case for "justice" when she failed to show up to face her accusers.Sending her minions to speak for her was a pretty dumb move.

Then again Yingluck has never been that intelligent, always been out of her depth the whole time she was in power allowing her brother to make her the "face" of his party.

To totally eradicate the Shinawatra clan from Thai politics will be in the long run the best thing for the country and hopefully some one will come along who is a true leader and puts personal interests aside ...a remote dream I know.

And finally what does Mr Yingluck, the invisible husband, think of all this ? he is tainted as well by association.

[devaram]

These Junta clowns are repeating their 2006 failure. They have silenced all opposition voices with their guns and oppression and now idiotically believe that the dearth of criticism of their ridiculously biased actions is proof of their correctness and vast public support - idiots one and all. This right wing extremist joke is hurtling inevitably towards its deserved demise

"Examples need to be set that those who commit wrong will be punished, so no future leaders dare repeat these actions. This will create sustainable reconciliation," the NACC member said.

- Does this line of thinking apply to the Army leaders and the coups they continually inflict upon the nation? Selective justice is no justice at all!

Reconciliation cannot be forced by one side onto the other at the barrel of a gun.

What nonsense! Where have guns been used to silence people? Where is the Army on the streets? Barricades? Armed vehicles?

It was Prayut who commenced paying the rice farmers within 3 days of taking over; not the Yingluck Gov't...they allowed graft & corruption to occur to the tune of Billions of baht.

Wicha's comment that you quoted is correct;Thai people are entitled to have those who have wronged them, to be punished....that's natural justice!!

Agree: your only correct statement is in the last line...."Reconciliation cannot be forced by one side onto the other at the barrel of a gun."

Rubbish,Prayuth never paid anything the bank bailed them out under Prayuths orders. Yingluck tried to get help from the bank as well but the bank which is owned and controlled by the elites refused to help until a time when it could be done in a way that benefitted the elites. It matters not that Thaksin was corrupt because all politicians in Thailand are corrupt and matters not that Yingluck made mistakes even though her heart was in the right place the bottom line is that they are fighting a 1000 year old dictatorship and trying to bring Thailand into the modern age. Prayuth is dragging everything backwards.. The coup was brought about after a long conspiracy between Suthep annd Prayuth. The protest were created in order make an atmosphere of violence which would give the army ann excuse to take over. This is admitted by Suthep. I guess allot of farangs don't like the idea of Thailand coming into the modern age because then girls will be able to get good paying jobs and won't have to sell their bodies and work as slaves To yellow shirt brothel owners anymore.

[BigC]

Yingluck 'involved in corruption'

KRIS BHROMSUTHI

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- JOINT TEAM OF PUBLIC PROSECUTORS, NACC AGREE TO PURSUE CRIMINAL CASE IN SUPREME COURT OVER RICE SCHEME, WICHA TELLS NLA

A WORKING group comprised of public prosecutors and members of the anti-graft agency has agreed that former premier Yingluck Shinawatra was involved in the alleged corruption in connection with her government's rice-pledging scheme and that she will face legal action.

Wicha Mahakhun, a member of the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC), told the National Legislative Assembly (NLA) yesterday that both sides had decided to take the case to Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders.

This is the latest from the NACC, which is working alongside the Office of the Attorney-General to file a criminal case against Yingluck. If she is found guilty, she may face a jail term and heavy fines.

Wicha also said yesterday that despite this criminal case, Yingluck should also face impeachment proceedings so she can be barred from politics for five years.

He appeared to use the decision to take legal action against Yingluck as a reason to persuade NLA members to go ahead with impeachment proceedings against her. He was responding on behalf of the NACC to queries from NLA members on whether they should go ahead with the impeachment process.

Wicha also said he did not think Yingluck's impeachment would pose obstacles to the ongoing national reconciliation effort, arguing that reconciliation moves involved investigating, clarifying and publicising the truth rather than "forgiving" wrongdoers.

He was responding to a question posed by the NLA enquiry committee, which wanted to know if going ahead with Yingluck's impeachment case would damage moves to foster national reconciliation.

Wicha said reconciliation and the impeachment process were "entirely different matters", adding that for true reconciliation, people should be able to see "right from wrong" and once facts are clarified to the public, it can decide for itself if holders of public office possess the qualities to lead the country.

"Examples need to be set that those who commit wrong will be punished, so no future leaders dare repeat these actions. This will create sustainable reconciliation," the NACC member said.

Publicising the truth was part and parcel of reconciliation, Wicha said, adding that the impeachment process would become a significant investigative tool in uncovering the truth.

As for the Constitutional Court's previous decision to remove Yingluck from office, Wicha said it was done for the unconstitutional removal of Thawil Pliensri from his position as chief of the National Security Council. He pointed out that this case did not reveal the former PM's misconduct and role in what proved to be a disastrous scheme.

"The impeachment proceedings on Yingluck's role in the rice-pledging scheme is an entirely different process and has nothing to do with the court's ruling, hence [the impeachment] can go ahead. The NACC tried to impeach her because she committed wrongs and is looking to ban her from politics for five years," he said.

Yingluck's representatives at the NLA meeting yesterday requested that she be allowed to answer all the 35 queries posed by NLA members on the day she presents her closing statement.

The NLA will convene again next Thursday to hear closing statements from the NACC as well as answers to its queries from Yingluck, before it meets again the following day to vote on whether it should go ahead with impeachment proceedings against her, NLA deputy president Peerasak Porjit said yesterday.

Meanwhile, NACC president Panthep Klanarongran said yesterday that the joint public prosecutors and NACC working group would decide by the end of this month on how it will pursue criminal proceedings against Yingluck.

He said the NACC working team, led by secretary-general Sansern Poljieak, was collecting additional information from relevant agencies and questioning more witnesses as requested by the Attorney-General's Office. Once this work is completed, he said, the team would meet with attorney-general representatives before taking the case to the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders.

The NACC chief said he expected both sides to meet no more than twice before a decision is made within this month.

As for the case against former commerce minister Boonsong Teriyapirom, also in connection with the rice-pledging scheme, the NACC will decide on Tuesday on whether he should be indicted, Panthep said.

Boonsong is accused of irregularities in the sale of pledged rice |in government-to-government deals.

In a related development, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said in his weekly address last night that members of the public can decide for themselves when a politician is accused of committing wrongdoings.

"The society should be able to tell right from wrong. We should not allow anyone to stir us up and cause social divisions again," he said.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Yingluck-involved-in-corruption-30252083.html

-- The Nation 2015-01-17

This is never going l end

[waitforusalso]

This is really very simple.

her wealth and assets alegedly tripled, during her time in government, involving BILLION'S of baht.

Ask her where this new found wealth came from and let her proove it.

Did you hear that from Suthep's stage?

A link to credible evidence most welcome.

" Caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra had Bt603 million in assets and Bt28 million in liabilities. Her assets increased since taking office by more than Bt50 million"

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Yinglucks-assets-rose-by-Bt50m-NACC-30226088.html

8.3% return

"The SET Index gained 36 percent in 2012, the most among Asia’s benchmark indexes after Pakistan."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-02/thai-stock-rally-to-ease-as-profit-growth-slows-southeast-asia.html

Maybe you could get a job working for the NACC or NLA

[Dellboy218]

Well it is good if they pursue legal actions as well as impeaching her. She needs to be held accountable for such huge losses to the country and from what I understand in this article they have enough proof that she contributed and benefitted from those losses as well.

They should immediately revoke her passport or she is going to follow her brother and do a runner.

I would imagine they might prefer it if she did!

[Jimbolai]

And now democracy is dead in Thailand.

She was legally elected by a majority of the people and how many of those elected the present regime?

[Dellboy218]

These Junta clowns are repeating their 2006 failure. They have silenced all opposition voices with their guns and oppression and now idiotically believe that the dearth of criticism of their ridiculously biased actions is proof of their correctness and vast public support - idiots one and all. This right wing extremist joke is hurtling inevitably towards its deserved demise

"Examples need to be set that those who commit wrong will be punished, so no future leaders dare repeat these actions. This will create sustainable reconciliation," the NACC member said.

- Does this line of thinking apply to the Army leaders and the coups they continually inflict upon the nation? Selective justice is no justice at all!

Reconciliation cannot be forced by one side onto the other at the barrel of a gun.

Your post seems to be in contradiction with your name! Except for the last line which is very true, it also includes intimidation and burning down buildings of those opposed to your ideology.

[MilesofSmiles]

[snip] Reconciliation cannot be forced by one side onto the other at the barrel of a gun.

What nonsense! Where have guns been used to silence people? Where is the Army on the streets? Barricades? Armed vehicles?

Everywhere.

Respect for fundamental freedoms and democracy in Thailand under military rule has fallen into an apparently bottomless pit. Six months after the coup,

criticism is systematically prosecuted, political activity is banned, media is censored, and dissidents are tried in military courts.

Brad Adams, Asia director

Many many many people have been summoned to report to the army. They also face ongoing monitoring and harassment.

Where are the guns? - The only reason they are in control is guns. Nobody voted for them.

Go and read Human Rights Watch

• http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/11/24/thailand-unending-repression-6-months-post-coup
• http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/thailand-free-speech-crackdown-creating-spiral-silence-2014-12-09

Edited January 17, 2015 by MilesofSmiles

[Jimbolai]

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Rightly or wrongly, the majority should be able to have the government they elect and the 'Losers' should peacefully accept defeat... the rest is incidental.

It is called democracy and now democracy is dead. That is a huge step backwards.

[EyesWideOpen]

Well it is good if they pursue legal actions as well as impeaching her. She needs to be held accountable for such huge losses to the country and from what I understand in this article they have enough proof that she contributed and benefitted from those losses as well.

They should immediately revoke her passport or she is going to follow her brother and do a runner.

Wiser heads on TV have been saying for years she has been up to her neck in this scheme

hatched by her brother. Nice to see the current government taking the same view. They

will not revoke her passport, as my opinion is they want her to do a runner. That way another

nail is put into the coffin of the Thaksin dynasty., The prospect of her coming a martyr

to the red buffaloes is removed by the fact she would not be thrown in jail, but rather would

be far away, and tainted by an endless string of charges.

At one level it is sort of sad, as she really was nothing more than a puppet dancing on

the strings of her brother. I personally do not believe she was smart enough to hatch

any kind of major scheme.....

[waitforusalso]

I suppose they should hold Lenin responsible for the losses of Communist Russia; Johnson responsible for cost of the Vietnam war.......

If she was personally involved in and gained from corruption, fair enough, but to impeach & prosecute over a failed policy is simply ludicrous.

If they do, what are the new rules? At what level is a failed policy considered severe enough to hold the PM responsible?

Obviously the Democrat's huge rice pledging, Hopewell, police station, ....losses were not big enough.

Edited January 17, 2015 by waitforusalso

[dluek]

I have a feeling that Yingluck won't flee. She's mild-mannered on the surface but fiery underneath. And she's smart enough to realize that going to jail while organizing her allies to preach the injustice of it all would eventually work in the Reds' favor. I'm afraid that Thai society is a long ways away from any sort of lasting stability. This current coup is just another chapter in a never-ending book.

[gerry123]

This is not a Yingluck/Shinawatra problem. The problem of corruption has been around for a long time in Thailand and its roots are

deep in the culture. Just about any Thai in her position would have done the same thing.

would have done the same thing. (is doing)

[Jimbolai]

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These Junta clowns are repeating their 2006 failure. They have silenced all opposition voices with their guns and oppression and now idiotically believe that the dearth of criticism of their ridiculously biased actions is proof of their correctness and vast public support - idiots one and all. This right wing extremist joke is hurtling inevitably towards its deserved demise

"Examples need to be set that those who commit wrong will be punished, so no future leaders dare repeat these actions. This will create sustainable reconciliation," the NACC member said.
- Does this line of thinking apply to the Army leaders and the coups they continually inflict upon the nation? Selective justice is no justice at all!

Reconciliation cannot be forced by one side onto the other at the barrel of a gun.

What nonsense! Where have guns been used to silence people? Where is the Army on the streets? Barricades? Armed vehicles?
It was Prayut who commenced paying the rice farmers within 3 days of taking over; not the Yingluck Gov't...they allowed graft & corruption to occur to the tune of Billions of baht.
Wicha's comment that you quoted is correct;Thai people are entitled to have those who have wronged them, to be punished....that's natural justice!!

Agree: your only correct statement is in the last line...."Reconciliation cannot be forced by one side onto the other at the barrel of a gun."

Rubbish,Prayuth never paid anything the bank bailed them out under Prayuths orders. Yingluck tried to get help from the bank as well but the bank which is owned and controlled by the elites refused to help until a time when it could be done in a way that benefitted the elites. It matters not that Thaksin was corrupt because all politicians in Thailand are corrupt and matters not that Yingluck made mistakes even though her heart was in the right place the bottom line is that they are fighting a 1000 year old dictatorship and trying to bring Thailand into the modern age. Prayuth is dragging everything backwards.. The coup was brought about after a long conspiracy between Suthep annd Prayuth. The protest were created in order make an atmosphere of violence which would give the army ann excuse to take over. This is admitted by Suthep. I guess allot of farangs don't like the idea of Thailand coming into the modern age because then girls will be able to get good paying jobs and won't have to sell their bodies and work as slaves To yellow shirt brothel owners anymore.

devaram, Sir, you are a winner.

[Jai Dee]

A couple of posts referencing Thai royalty have been deleted in accordance with the Forum Rules.

[WitawatWatawit]

Recent practice, several decades at least, has shown that when the rich do bad, they just pay money. So, in this case just have she and her brother pay restitution of the money lost from Thailand coffers and all becomes righted in the world again.

You mean repay the stolen money and then we can all go and tiptoe through the tulips? I've got a better idea - repay the stolen money (with interest) and pay a fine so devastating that they will end up in the streets with only the clothes on their backs.

[mok199]

the ''sanctuary of truth has an opening for 1 instructor....its a ying thing..

[bristolgeoff]

brother the end is near need your nelp now.get the plane ready for my trip

[WitawatWatawit]

I suppose they should hold Lenin responsible for the losses of Communist Russia; Johnson responsible for cost of the Vietnam war.......

If she was personally involved in and gained from corruption, fair enough, but to impeach & prosecute over a failed policy is simply ludicrous.

If they do, what are the new rules? At what level is a failed policy considered severe enough to hold the PM responsible?

Obviously the Democrat's huge rice pledging, Hopewell, police station, ....losses were not big enough.

^^^ Fail. Thaksin needs to rehire Amsterdam and his spin doctors - this latest group of paid propagandists are terrible. Totally incapable of any kind of intelligent discussion.

[EyesWideOpen]

brother the end is near need your nelp now.get the plane ready for my trip

As I recall Thaksin has his own private jet, so a piece of cake to fly her out.

No need to worry about passport controls... :-)