elVagabundo Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 (edited) Hello all, The title really states my question fairly clearly. I've been working for a school the past month and it hasn't been at all what I expected (posted about this previously). Long story short, I was promised curriculum, lesson plans, etc, but nothing was given to me. I'm expected to come up with my own lesson plans "from my culture". On top of that, my boss closely micromanages all my classes. They constantly tell me everything that they feel I do wrong (in front of the students) and take over the class speaking in Thai and broken English.... all while reminding me to "smile". I'm pretty done. I realized a few days back that while I was shown a contract before I started, they still haven't had me sign a darn thing (something about the head office being backed up). Furthermore, they didn't give me a work permit.So, moral obligations to the students and boss aside, can I just walk?Thanks! Edited January 26, 2015 by elVagabundo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post teacherofwoe Posted January 26, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2015 Repercussions of quitting? Repercussions of staying would be far worse. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted January 26, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 26, 2015 You have nothing, therefore you have nothing to lose, unless of course the unlikely event of the immigration police paying a visit then you have a lot to lose. Get this months salary then like a ship in the night slip away. Pick up your bags and go, you've nothing to lose and everything to gain. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aarontendo Posted January 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2015 Yep, get on out of there. Toxic work environment for sure. Criticizing you in front of your kiddos is a deal-breaker, and something I hear about far too often being done here. I find this doubly strange as they have a "face" culture and I doubt would do that to each other. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bangmai Posted January 27, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 27, 2015 just minimize what they owe you on the day you bail, and don't look back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elVagabundo Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Thanks for the replies and support! Will definitely get out of here ASAP (and it feels really good to type that!). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Yep, get on out of there. Toxic work environment for sure. Criticizing you in front of your kiddos is a deal-breaker, and something I hear about far too often being done here. I find this doubly strange as they have a "face" culture and I doubt would do that to each other. "I find this doubly strange as they have a "face" culture and I doubt would do that to each other. " Obviously, if you read through a few threads on Thai Visa, "they" aren't the only ones worried about losing face. "Criticizing you in front of your kiddos is a deal-breaker..." ... as your comment demonstrates. The perception, and it often nothing more than a perception, of loss of face is even a bigger deal for farang than for "them." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 "I find this doubly strange as they have a "face" culture and I doubt would do that to each other. " Obviously, if you read through a few threads on Thai Visa, "they" aren't the only ones worried about losing face. "Criticizing you in front of your kiddos is a deal-breaker..." ... as your comment demonstrates. The perception, and it often nothing more than a perception, of loss of face is even a bigger deal for farang than for "them." Ah the hallmark posting of a dedicated Thai LowSo wanna be HiSo managerial class sort of person, indeed your ongoing xenophobia and arrogance is not something to be admired. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyjon Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 People will get ripped off no matter who or where you are, unfortunately we are obliged to lower our standards to theirs but they want our knowledge and expertise, i refuse to bend over, i won't do it, maybe in your case it was them telling you who was boss, so man up, get your pay and be like a wombat....eats roots and leaves. And oh,,,, don't forget to smile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SlyAnimal Posted January 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 28, 2015 Make sure you collect your salary before you give your notice or leave.As otherwise, they might try to withhold it, and without a WP/contract, it'd be a very murky situation and you'd probably end up just not getting paid. Morally of course, you should ensure that you give them adequate notice etc, just to be a nice person, but as you haven't signed a contract, you're under no obligation to do so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Get a last paycheck and get the HELL outta there! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siampolee Posted January 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2015 Mouth closed hand out smile when salary is paid then be out of town on the first stage that passes. https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0d3vE57yfdVEHyiXGuLg20tL-OPthEPw_X-a76Zi6Xf8YnXIdxA 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrtoad Posted January 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2015 Given that they have not fulfilled their promises, and there is no contract I'd suggest that you leave as advised. The behaviour of criticising you in front of students is unprofessional and crass. It sounds like a place to avoid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lostinisaan Posted January 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2015 Mouth closed hand out smile when salary is paid then be out of town on the first stage that passes. https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0d3vE57yfdVEHyiXGuLg20tL-OPthEPw_X-a76Zi6Xf8YnXIdxA And make sure that you leave some rotten fish hidden somewhere in the PO O's office..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Slip Posted January 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2015 Just walk. Don't look back. If you are a graduate pm me your cv. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzman Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Run Forest, Run 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kf6vci Posted February 7, 2015 Share Posted February 7, 2015 "On top of that, my boss closely micromanages all my classes. They constantly tell me everything that they feel I do wrong (in front of the students) and take over the class speaking in Thai and broken English.... all while reminding me to "smile". I'm pretty done" I can't stand that. Teaching English by speaking Thai. On my first day, I asked is there a book? A: no book. A few weeks later, the HoD comes into my class and lambasts me for not following the book. <deleted>?!? OP, be very careful not to sign something all in Thai. It happened to me. (I can't read Thai). Later, a school claimed that I had signed a contract as some disposable "hired by the hour" person. No foreign teacher ever got a WP there... When it's such a place, you gotta get the hell outta there! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elVagabundo Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Thanks again all! I'm happy to report that I'm on my way out the door! This whole experience, along with the responses to this post and others, has gotten me thinking though. Why is it that there are no websites where one can post reviews of Teaching Jobs? http://www.ajarn.com/ajarn-street/articles/i-work-for-the-school-from-hell/ This article seems to state that Thai laws are such that thaivisa or other websites/forums would get sued for negative reviews of schools... Is this true? This libel law, as discussed in the article, also seems to suggest that any negative review MUST be investigated, while positive reviews (no matter if they are deceptive or not) should be left alone? What?? I don't have any interest in name shaming my school... Perhaps there are others that would love working there. To each their own. It just seems a little odd that I should not at least be able to give future/prospective employees a heads up as to the true (and unadvertised) working conditions so that they can know what to expect going in and not get blindsided. Edited February 10, 2015 by elVagabundo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
siampolee Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 elVagabundo. Here is your theme song for your leaving march!! I was younger and remember it well, but it might be before your time, Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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