Floater 7 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Very simple. Ignorance no excuse. Read about where you go for vacation /business first, before you go. If you don't use the tools at your disposal (Internet), not smart. Jetski rip-off well documented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowfactor10 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Question Are there still any person left here that thinks we need to have jet ski rental mafia on the Thai beaches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sealbash Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Look at it from the insurers' perspective. Rule of thumb: each jet ski operator has several claims/week. Each claim is tens of thousands of baht. Unless each insurance premium is at least a hundred thousand baht/month, the insurance company will soon be in deep doo doo.Who cares about the insurers? The shareholders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducking and Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 At least something good is happening here. If this was 2 years ago the Chinese had to pay 200k. Now he can complain and get away with it for only 15k. Actually, they should have paid 30,000 - 15,000 per jet ski - but after complaint they still paid 50,000, viz 20,000 extra. Profitable renting jet ski, Thai-style. Yes, whoever pointed it out, the 200k he demanded was a bit steep, seeing as even the negligent operator accepted he should get only 50k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 'The owner ... claimed he had to collect the damage fee because his insurance policy for the jet skis had expired.' Tough s . . t!! That should, in fact, render his renting the skis illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 One of the best Thai Bashing post on this planet. Should choose the best basher for a gold award. Would do Thailand some good :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 Well if his insurance had expired he should not be allowed to rent them out, simple, <deleted> thieving Bastards, I see nothing in Thailand has really changed, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted February 10, 2015 Share Posted February 10, 2015 To be fair, they did crash the 2 jetskis into each other. I'm wondering how much damage was done from the accident. That's why they are meant to be insured, and that reflects that in the rental price, so no there is no to be fair too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmptyHead Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Extraordinary that a tourist would EVEN pay the money. Hmmm...Lose some money or get brain damage.....lose some money or get brain damage......lose some money or get brain damage.I'll lose some money, thanks.Ok in a nutshell, Phuket is as lawless as it it ever was. Cosmetic Bullshit about reforms. Ok, thanks for that. The entire reform seems to be superficial. Not sure how that logically follows my post though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Still made 50k though by knocking the fella Edited February 11, 2015 by ExPratt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtomtom69 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 They should not be allowed to operate without comprehensive insurance. These greedy morons will eventually get the message when the tourists stop coming. My rented Pattaya house was recently struck by lightning. About B100,000 loss to me. Landlady let insurance lapse so I'm stuck How much damage was caused by this lightning strike? I'm always very scared of lightning during the monsoon season or anytime there's a thunderstorm in Thailand, even if the chances of getting a direct hit are very low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomtomtom69 Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 When tourists will understand? NEVER EVER rent a jet sky in Thailand. NEVER. In many places around kingdom also avoid rent motorcycles... If you do it, you are ready to be scammed. Very likely. So just: AVOID. True. I agree with this statement. Generally speaking, reputable motorcycle/scooter rental shops should be OK but you have to go around and do your homework - steer clear of those that demand your real passport as a deposit. But jet skis are a definite no-no it seems. Too many scams. Either buy your own and use it when you go to the beach or head over to Malaysia or Vietnam and ride there as they don't have the jet ski scams you have here. In fact, the only place in the world I've ever ridden a jet ski was in Mui Ne beach, Vietnam and it was very straightforward. Guy comes to the beach asking if you'd like to rent - you give him the agreed amount in cash and off you go for a spin and then you hand back the jet ski at the end. He watches you the whole time and there are no problems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 I'm sick of hearing about these stories. Anyone dumb enough to rent a jet ski in pattaya has no right to complain for being a moron in my opinion. ...and in my opinion, your opinion is worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paz Posted February 11, 2015 Share Posted February 11, 2015 Still scamming, no change! They must have some powerful protectors? Which scamming? The tourist had crashed and damaged what they rented. All what has to be ascertained is the amount of damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZBill Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 I'd never rent there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted February 14, 2015 Share Posted February 14, 2015 The soldiers or their relatives are running the scam..that is what the coup was about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny S Posted February 17, 2015 Share Posted February 17, 2015 Still scamming, no change! They must have some powerful protectors? I hear RTP and the Mayor are quite powerful .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 The RTP and Mayor are as powerful as The RTA allows them to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tif Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Chinese tourist charged Bt90,000 over damaged jet skis in Phuket Excellent. Nothing like some Chinese pr1ck tearing up the ocean and spoiling everyone and the sea animals' peace and quiet. How many times do we see this? And yet these morons, of every nationality, still insist on renting them. Screw 'em all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tif Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Extraordinary that a tourist would EVEN pay the money. Hmmm... Lose some money or get brain damage.....lose some money or get brain damage......lose some money or get brain damage. I'll lose some money, thanks. The damage to what passes for their brains had already occurred when they'd actually approached a vendor to rent them one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 I'm glad the new regime have stamped this kind of thing out now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Rational discussion of this topic is actually irrational, there crooks, powerful crooks I think we have established that haven't we. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 If they are so powerful they should be running the country....or perhaps they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) He claimed he had to collect the damage fee because his insurance policy for the jet skis had expired. Tough titties, dude! Grow a brain. Best way to sort the jet-ski issue: ban all current operations, demolish their skis and have soldiers run it. Not ideal, but would take the current scum out of the equation. So the'scum' as you call the Thai people who run this beach business would changeT-shirts, flip flops and jeans for boots and uniforms. Same dog different fleas. Edited March 12, 2015 by The manic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonbridgebrit Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 How about the message should be "everybody, go to Phuket for a holiday if you want to, but, do yourself a favour, DO NOT hire any jet-ski". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 If the skis were insured, I can understand the Thai man wanting some immediate payment because there are costs associated with filing insurance claims. However the guy says he didn't have insurance so my sympathy drops a bit. As for the Chinese renter, well the story seems to admit they did hit the two jet skis together so there was some damage maybe evident or latent. So the Chinese guy should have to pay something. Messy all around. 15,000 Baht is about $500 USD. I don't know what jet skis cost or what the damage is, but I doubt they did more then dent the outer "hull" and scratch the paint. I didn't read anything about the engine or throttle controls or any mechanical damage. Now a shiny well painted and presented jet ski can probably bring in more renters than a dented banged up jetski so I would be sympathetic to a repair bill being needed The problem is that unless there was enough damage to prevent usage of the Jet skis then no repairs will be made and the money will be pocketed..... Also they will most assuredly use this damage to scam a future unsuspecting tourist of their money claiming the damage was made by them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted March 13, 2015 Share Posted March 13, 2015 "..He claimed he had to collect the damage fee because his insurance policy for the jet skis had expired." Another Thai person rationalizing things away. Just amazing and constant deflection of guilt or fault or dereliction of duty. Having said that, if there was damage to the jet skis, I could understand the renters having to pay something for loss of time, material, possible insurance rate hike, etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted March 14, 2015 Share Posted March 14, 2015 No mention of the physical damage done. More often than not, if there's physical damage - it can be fixed with a bit of epoxy and (later) a couple minutes of hand sanding. Cost: about 75 baht. However, I've heard the Jet ski extortionists use the same dent over and over. They put some paste over the dent (and maybe spray paint), and when the customer returns, the extortionists clandestinely wipe the paste off and reveal the dent/gash. Jet skis should be banned. Simple, clean solution. Who will miss 'em except the extortionists and the officials who get a portion of the pay-offs? In Sri Lanka, I went along the coast, and every 30 to 50 miles there was a sea turtle hatchery. Tourists pay money to visit the hatchery. Similarly, a manatee sanctuary (I wonder if any exist outside the US?). Some of the most popular tourist spots in Florida are places to see manatees in the wild. Which would you rather see: places for environmental husbandry or jet ski vendors? If a manatee is sighted (a very rare event) along a Thai coast, some villagers might go charging out with knives to cut out its eyes (for a folk remedy). Thailand is to environmental husbandry what ISIS is to church choral groups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cashlamb99 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I SAY THE COPS MUST OWN THE JET SKI S..COPS HAVE NO R E S P E C T. Sent from my LG-P880 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Poor bloke just trying to earn an honest crust to feed his family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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