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No Go Areas...

Sorry and all that but there are some places I don't go any more. In

Bangkok, Thermae, the Grace Coffee Shop and the Nana Hotel disco all

add up to a psychic no-man's land where you have to check your soul in

at the door. Desperate women, one step away from joining the diseased

- both physically and mentally - street walkers on the lower end of

Sukhumvit; well matched to punters who give every impression of being

on their last legs. Similarly, the whole of Soi 6 off Beach Road in

Pattaya, with its dismal short-time ethos, makes me want to throw up.

These are not people I want in my life. I would include a few Pattaya

go-go bars in my avoid-at-all-costs list, too, but won't name them as

I don't particularly want to be beaten to a pulp ? on the edge of

things, Pattaya is a totally lawless zone where a bit of dosh in the

right pocket cancels out any concept of human rights and the law of

the land. I really don't get some gals I know who move down from

somewhere like Happy Go-Go to TQ and then end up in a Soi 6 dive, one

step away from joining the walking dead on the Beach Rd Promenade.

Souls eaten away by gut-rot local whisky Lao and ya-baa? Or just so

fazed by the life that they lack any self-respect; or maybe they can't

pass the cursory medical tests in the go-go's any more. The whole bar

scene has generally degenerated into a ######-on-earth routine ? so much

beautiful flesh on view it's mind and cock bending but the women mere

husks as far as Oriental feminineness goes... basically any decent

Thai lady down on her luck goes and pokes her head into any of the

neon dives, clocks the dismal internal state of the babes, and general

ambiance of the dead, and gets the first bus back to Nakorn Nowhere.

You would not believe the sheer number of Thai women who want to get a

farang in their life - from a concoction of getting fiscally ahead of

the game and actually finding someone willing to devote their lives to

them (unlike a lot of the local no-hopers) - but mention doing the bar

scene as a way into the hearts of farang and they show a huge amount

of sense and determination in refusing to have anything to do with the

neon. Go figure the state of the gals who actually indulge! In many

ways, the government's drive to close down the neon dives is actually

behind the times, any women likely to be of interest to farang

(disease and pimp/husband free) have already deserted the scene and

it's just one overwhelming brothel rumpus with the odd bit of

hyper-bullshit acting thrown in to keep the ignorant punters on their

toes. The go-go scene can now be seen only as a cheap form of

entertainment, nothing more. Sorry, wrong country at the wrong time!

The police raided the CM2 disco under the Novatel in Siam Square,

closed it down for thirty days because one underaged imp managed to

get past the management checks at the door (I always offer my passport

but they never want to check my age...). The cops were looking for

Russian hookers (no accounting for taste) but only found some very

nice Eastern European tourists on valid visas, couldn't touch them.

CM2 isn't a bad disco ? better than the Nana hotel club anyway ? but

no-one thought to arrest the live band for doing early seventies

Motown crap music. Not a fair world!

Songran escapees who don't want to be in town for the dreaded water

thrashing week (11-17th April) and are going back to cold climes might

want to dig around the Factory Outlet shop at the back of Amarin Plaza

if they need to find cheapish warm clothes, with some good brand-names

on offer. She-who-must-be-obeyed turned out to be the same size as a

farang twelve year-old! The top floor of the old department store has

the most affordable stuff, about a fifth of what you'd pay in

farangland.

Got one over on the Pantip boys, they didn't have a copy of Xandros 2

Linux which was recommended by the UK's Personal Computer World

magazine if you just want a system for a single machine. Next week

they will probably be up to speed, fast learners. BTW, this site is

produced using OpenOffice 1.1 (another freebie from PCW), which I only

got around to using after Word went haywire on me ? I won't be going

back, either. OpenOffice was originally done for Linux so I figure

it's an excuse to give the operating system another try though I never

really got on with the latest RedHat Linux, even if it came with lots

of free games that kept she-who-must-be-obeyed amused. Figure both

Xandros and OpenOffice to be worth a look especially if you buy one of

the cheap laptops that come without an operating system (sub 30k

baht!). BTW thought the latest ThaiCom show kinda sucked, had more fun

wandering around Pantip ? and better bargains, too.

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the places he mentions are full of badass very streetwise very short timers who appear to be driven harder by their mang das..

they must rate as tough as Parisian hookers on a bad day

the days when you could find a sweet girl who would party till the next day and do some shopping appear to be long gone , allthough its the numbers game ,if you process enough females you can find a nugget or two..

but the scene of Nana -Grace - thermae-sukhumvit is really nasty nowadays ..

Christ , the original Thermae was THE place , when it moved it became sterile.

I think it belongs in a different time , some things don't age so well.

Too many desperate bastards these days , too true.

Right, the different time it belonged in was 2 am. to 6 am., when the great influx of bargirls would really make Thermae a happening place every night. Still, I would suggest it's not quite as bad as indicated on this thread, or maybe I've always had pretty good luck there. Currently I'm taking a lovely lady out of Thermae about once a week. She is more svelte and attractive than 90 % of BGs, and I think her attitude is perhaps not quite so poisoned because she can choose when she wants to go to "work", and does not have to endure the car-alarm music, cigarette smoke and leering punters every evening. At any rate, I can still save the 500 or 600 baht BF, and she is most happy with 1000 for a happy sexy short time.

Right, the different time it belonged in was 2 am. to 6 am., when the great influx of bargirls would really make Thermae a happening place every night.  Still, I would suggest it's not quite as bad as indicated on this thread, or maybe I've always had pretty good luck there.  Currently I'm taking a lovely lady out of Thermae about once a week.  She is more svelte and attractive than 90 % of BGs, and I think her attitude is perhaps not quite so poisoned because she can choose when she wants to go to "work", and does not have to endure the car-alarm music, cigarette smoke and leering punters every evening.  At any rate, I can still save the 500 or 600 baht BF, and she is most happy with 1000 for a happy sexy short time.

Excellent a man of similar taste to moi! Before I met and settled down with Mia Yai of course....

Pattaya is a totally lawless zone where a bit of dosh in the

right pocket cancels out any concept of human rights and the law of

the land.

Can you elaborate on this a bit?

Hmmm and I thought Eric was into Lady Boys?

Nah definitely not as bad as Eric has put it. There will always be exceptions, but for the most part I think the state of affairs are pleasant. Mind you I would have to agree about Beach Rd, normally the TG are on their last legs when they reach this spot!

Pattaya has it's knockers (fnarr fnarr ) but theres a lot worse places on this planet , Reading town centre on a busy shopping afternoon for one....

Just go to Mike's and you'll see plenty of Ferang shopping with their TGF.

We have a TG Friday in Reading as well...

But wouldn't you agree it's done with more panache in Mikes/MBK/Royal Garden/Big C as opposed to stumbling around the Oracle centre with pikeys begging/selling heather for £5 a throw...

Definitely worth the price of admission!

pikeys begging/selling heather for £5 a throw...

lol. Remember "Irish ######" got the hump over that Chon ?

Christ , the original Thermae was THE place , when it moved it became sterile.

I think it belongs in a different time , some things don't age so well.

Too many desperate bastards these days , too true.

agree on that one, it was great cruising in the back door ,very sleazy and chock full at the late hour , is it my imagination or were the girls there better looking than nowadays.

i am sure the quality has gone downhill.

the better lookers can probly find work in a snooker hall or some mall or become a mia noi nowadays...these options were not available when thermae 1 was open , or were much less than now ..

thermea2 doesnt seem so sleazy as 1 ..

Christ , the original Thermae was THE place , when it moved it became sterile.

I think it belongs in a different time , some things don't age so well.

Too many desperate bastards these days , too true.

agree on that one, it was great cruising in the back door ,very sleazy and chock full at the late hour , is it my imagination or were the girls there better looking than nowadays.

i am sure the quality has gone downhill.

the better lookers can probly find work in a snooker hall or some mall or become a mia noi nowadays...these options were not available when thermae 1 was open , or were much less than now ..

thermea2 doesnt seem so sleazy as 1 ..

Ah the back door.... I think the lighting has improved too much in T 2 , in the old days you could forgive the lack of visibilty for the old hag in the pit next day , so I am told , ahem ahem..

pikeys begging/selling heather for £5 a throw...

lol. Remember "Irish ######" got the hump over that Chon ?

Absolutely , wonder how the Leprechaun is these days?