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The only way to have a proper D word is to not care what the international community thinks.

That way a country can be isolationist, throw its people into poverty, and totally stifle the press. See N. Korea, Cuba, and even the collapse of the Soviet Union.

International sanctions are placed in every area from import/export to tourism and everything dies.

The Thais aren't ready to be isolationist with little if any foreign trade and tourism etc. They depend too much on it.

The leader should look up the word "checkmate." Bad times are ahead for Thailand.

Unfortunately whether or not the Thais are ready to be isolationist, or indeed want to be isolationist doesn't come into it. As the OP says Prayut has the power to do anything he deems necessary to meet the government's goals. In other words, Prayut has enjoyed absolute power - executive, judicial and legislative - since he ousted an elected government last May.

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It is time to face the possibility that what this junta lacks is not power, but the basic ability to govern.

Not only this junta but the serial juntas over the last 70 some-odd years....

And to think that some people blame the last government for all of Thailand's woes... whistling.gif

"some people blame the last government for all of Thailand's woes"

I've not seen that, I think most of us realise that the corruption & mis-management go back much further, however some administrations seem better than others at rooting some of it out.

So it's a matter of poor-government, versus totally-inept ones, and how much they ever deliver from the pretty words & promises. At least the daily shootings/bombings (excluding the South ... which is a separate situation) have been stopped for now, barring a few idiots.

In an ideal democratic world, there would be someone honest & competent to lead the country, but I can't currently see who that might be. And whether they'd be permitted to do so, by the amart or military or Thaksin's bunch, is debateable.

Sometimes one has to choose the less-bad option in life, until a better one comes along. sad.png

oh, I think a lot of people blame the last government and politicians in general... and that has been a trend throughout the 70-odd years I mentioned above.... There are quite a few posters here who see Thaksin as the end-all and be-all of Thailand's problems...

And to your point, I don't agree that it's a choice between good-bad governments. It's a choice between systems of governance; self-governance or - let's call it "imposed" governance... From that point on, there will be some which are better/worse than others... that's life in the real world.

You mention this point:

And whether they'd be permitted to do so, by the amart or military or Thaksin's bunch, is debateable.

which is a good one... The amart and military are exactly the allegiance which has been at the heart of the serial-juntas that I mentioned. So yes, that is a big factor in Thailand's future...

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The sound of the number "four" in Japanese and Chinese is the same sound as the word for death. Any number with "four" is considered unlucky. Two "fours" would be even more unlucky.

The junta does and will play favorites, and it is doubtful there will be any reconciliation while they are running the country.

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It is time to face the possibility that what this junta lacks is not power, but the basic ability to govern.

Not only this junta but the serial juntas over the last 70 some-odd years....

And to think that some people blame the last government for all of Thailand's woes... whistling.gif

"some people blame the last government for all of Thailand's woes"

I've not seen that, I think most of us realise that the corruption & mis-management go back much further, however some administrations seem better than others at rooting some of it out.

So it's a matter of poor-government, versus totally-inept ones, and how much they ever deliver from the pretty words & promises. At least the daily shootings/bombings (excluding the South ... which is a separate situation) have been stopped for now, barring a few idiots.

In an ideal democratic world, there would be someone honest & competent to lead the country, but I can't currently see who that might be. And whether they'd be permitted to do so, by the amart or military or Thaksin's bunch, is debateable.

Sometimes one has to choose the less-bad option in life, until a better one comes along. sad.png

That applies to any country. Especially the US, being the largest promoter of "democracy". Can Americans govern? It does not appear so. And I say that as an American. So, incompetence at the National level is a worldwide issue. Please suggest some examples if you are aware of a few well governed nations. Perhaps in Scandinavia?

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Someone should study the history of the Philippines under Marcos and see how that ended economically and politically in the mid 1980's. Not a pretty sight.

Why not study that other dictator Lee Kuan Yew in Singapore? Didn't you ever wonder why he is getting all the good press now upon his demise?

He and his family and appointees ruled Singapore from 1959 to the present day. How come you don't know about that or have anything bad to say about the dramatic rise in the economy and standard of living of Singapore from third world to first world?

Is it because you don't know anything about Asia or are you just uneducated?

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It is time to face the possibility that what this junta lacks is not power, but the basic ability to govern.

Not only this junta but the serial juntas over the last 70 some-odd years....

And to think that some people blame the last government for all of Thailand's woes... whistling.gif

"some people blame the last government for all of Thailand's woes"

I've not seen that, I think most of us realise that the corruption & mis-management go back much further, however some administrations seem better than others at rooting some of it out.

So it's a matter of poor-government, versus totally-inept ones, and how much they ever deliver from the pretty words & promises. At least the daily shootings/bombings (excluding the South ... which is a separate situation) have been stopped for now, barring a few idiots.

In an ideal democratic world, there would be someone honest & competent to lead the country, but I can't currently see who that might be. And whether they'd be permitted to do so, by the amart or military or Thaksin's bunch, is debateable.

Sometimes one has to choose the less-bad option in life, until a better one comes along. sad.png

That applies to any country. Especially the US, being the largest promoter of "democracy". Can Americans govern? It does not appear so. And I say that as an American. So, incompetence at the National level is a worldwide issue. Please suggest some examples if you are aware of a few well governed nations. Perhaps in Scandinavia?

Singapore and they have had a dictatorship for 56 years.

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The only way to have a proper D word is to not care what the international community thinks.

That way a country can be isolationist, throw its people into poverty, and totally stifle the press. See N. Korea, Cuba, and even the collapse of the Soviet Union.

International sanctions are placed in every area from import/export to tourism and everything dies.

The Thais aren't ready to be isolationist with little if any foreign trade and tourism etc. They depend too much on it.

The leader should look up the word "checkmate." Bad times are ahead for Thailand.

Did you forget about China? Or Vietnam, Laos and the Vatican?

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Considering how close the Nation Group is to the centre of power, this may be a pointer towards serious rumblings of unhappiness behind the scenes. This sort of editorial does not appear unapproved. Herr General seems to have overstepped the mark.

Hope you are right.

That is, if it doesn't lead to a counter coup!!w00t.gif

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Considering how close the Nation Group is to the centre of power, this may be a pointer towards serious rumblings of unhappiness behind the scenes. This sort of editorial does not appear unapproved. Herr General seems to have overstepped the mark.

Hope you are right.

That is, if it doesn't lead to a counter coup!!w00t.gif

Considering all this is about controlling the wealth, and the country is in increasingly dire straits financially thanks in a large part to gross incompetence on the part of this lot, there must be unease. At least under the elected past governments, as grossly flawed as they were, the country boomed economically. Retail collapse, low spending tourists and the corporate exodus make a counter-coup at least possible. Prayuth has made a dogs breakfast of his chance to adjust things.

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The only way to have a proper D word is to not care what the international community thinks.

That way a country can be isolationist, throw its people into poverty, and totally stifle the press. See N. Korea, Cuba, and even the collapse of the Soviet Union.

International sanctions are placed in every area from import/export to tourism and everything dies.

The Thais aren't ready to be isolationist with little if any foreign trade and tourism etc. They depend too much on it.

The leader should look up the word "checkmate." Bad times are ahead for Thailand.

Did you forget about China? Or Vietnam, Laos and the Vatican?

The Vatican is a money machine supported by donors from all over the world. Up to them.

The other three you mentioned have horrible incomes per capita. Very few hi so's among the people. The people are poor and stifled.

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Singapore and they have had a dictatorship for 56 years.

Really. I thought Singapore was a parliamentary representative democratic republic with elections every 6 years. I thought the leaders were directly elected by the people.

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The only way to have a proper D word is to not care what the international community thinks.

That way a country can be isolationist, throw its people into poverty, and totally stifle the press. See N. Korea, Cuba, and even the collapse of the Soviet Union.

International sanctions are placed in every area from import/export to tourism and everything dies.

The Thais aren't ready to be isolationist with little if any foreign trade and tourism etc. They depend too much on it.

The leader should look up the word "checkmate." Bad times are ahead for Thailand.

Did you forget about China? Or Vietnam, Laos and the Vatican?

The Vatican is a money machine supported by donors from all over the world. Up to them.

The other three you mentioned have horrible incomes per capita. Very few hi so's among the people. The people are poor and stifled.

There are more than 1 million millionaires in China, defined as those with at least 10 million yuan, roughly $1.6 million.

Their ranks grew 3.8 percent from a year earlier, to 1,090,000. Meanwhile, the number of super-rich, those with at least 100 million yuan ($16 million), grew 3.7 percent to 67,000. Those numbers are expected to rise to more than 1.2 million millionaires and 73,000 super-rich in the next three years, predicts Hurun.

www.bloomberg.com/.../where-chinas-millionaires-live-and-how-they-g...

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Considering how close the Nation Group is to the centre of power, this may be a pointer towards serious rumblings of unhappiness behind the scenes. This sort of editorial does not appear unapproved. Herr General seems to have overstepped the mark.

Hope you are right.

That is, if it doesn't lead to a counter coup!!w00t.gif

Can't be discounted if he starts screwing things up for the elite who will easily persuade another military type to step up and what self respecting military man doesn't fancy running the country especially as he knows he can do a better job and it's all for the good of the country anyway.

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Considering how close the Nation Group is to the centre of power, this may be a pointer towards serious rumblings of unhappiness behind the scenes. This sort of editorial does not appear unapproved. Herr General seems to have overstepped the mark.

Hope you are right.

That is, if it doesn't lead to a counter coup!!w00t.gif

Can't be discounted if he starts screwing things up for the elite who will easily persuade another military type to step up and what self respecting military man doesn't fancy running the country especially as he knows he can do a better job and it's all for the good of the country anyway.

Hence the need for removing martial law perhaps. The significant difference between martial law and article 44 is it has transferred power away from the military to Prayuth directly.

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