English teaching rates on Samui?

[xebozone]

Hello, all!

I was offered a job at a small school here to teach English classes to a small amount of students (6 classes a week, 2 hours per class).
I am a native speaker and have a Bachelor degree from Australia. I and am eligible for a work permit if I take the job, which would be nice.

However, I'm not sure about the rates...
I was offered a rate of 200B an hour (as I have less than 1 year experience teaching, I was told).
It was told to me after 1 year, the rate will go up to 300B - 400B per hour, which is apparently the 'general rate for a native English speaker in Samui'.

It's only 2 hours' per class, true, but I would be teaching 2 classes a day, with a 2 hour break in-between... so it's really a 6 hour per day commitment (not including question time after the class, etc), with only 4 hours' of paid time.

The Math:
200B * 4 * 3 = 2400B / week
2400B * 4 = 9600B a month... which really isn't a lot, especially on a tourist island like Samui.

Can someone confirm the 'general rate for a native English speaker in Samui', considering my newbie teaching status too?
I couldn't find any information about samui teaching rates anywhere.

Thanks, all!

[Rooo]

Moved to teaching forum with Link left On Samui Forum.

[cgphuket]

The rate is not unheard of, but insulting low anyway. Be careful about the work permit. Work permits require a minimum wage based on what your native country is. The wage is lowered for teachers, but most part-time jobs won't support a work visa / permit.

[lostinisaan]

The rate is not unheard of, but insulting low anyway. Be careful about the work permit. Work permits require a minimum wage based on what your native country is. The wage is lowered for teachers, but most part-time jobs won't support a work visa / permit.

Work permits do not require a minimum wage, based on your native country.

I would never take such an offer and do not think that they're planning to go the legal way.

OP should go for a job that offers a fixed salary, with paid holidays, etc... not paid by the hour.

[Mario2008]

The rate is not unheard of, but insulting low anyway. Be careful about the work permit. Work permits require a minimum wage based on what your native country is. The wage is lowered for teachers, but most part-time jobs won't support a work visa / permit.

There is no minimum income requirement according to once nationality for a work permit.

The incomer requirement is one from immigration, not the labor office, and does not apply to teachers.

[xebozone]

Thanks, people!

I have decided that life is short, and my time is worth more than 200B an hour

[Jessi]

Thanks, people!

I have decided that life is short, and my time is worth more than 200B an hour

I think you have made a good choice.

[lostinisaan]

Thanks, people!

I have decided that life is short, and my time is worth more than 200B an hour

Great to see your decision. Let them find it out the hard way. You get what you're paying for.

Best of luck and please be aware that you'll find other jobs near the sea, for example in Prachuap khiri Khan, etc....

Edited April 6, 2015 by lostinisaan

[spunkie]

200 per hour is a joke you should be looking at least 450 per hour

[kohlenkutscher]

"offtopic"

I"m looking for a English Teacher in Hua Hin to start a 9 yr Thai-Boy from zero. I have an Offer of 650 Baht/hr teaching one by one. But this sounds to me expensive, isn't it?

[losworld]

Don't be crazy if they are lowballing like this they will simply fire you after one year and find another "intern".

[spunkie]

White English speaking teachers are very few and Inbetween in Bangkok you can name your price not sure about samui

[gerry123]

Thanks, people!

I have decided that life is short, and my time is worth more than 200B an hour

good on you mate don't worry though there are plenty of wannabes / has beens waiting in the wings

[elliss]

200 per hour is a joke you should be looking at least 450 per hour

Don't you believe it .

The mickey mouse brigade , with their fake internet degrees , aka. want to be a ,Look a like Teacher .

Would iron their white shirts and their black trousers, and even polish their black shoes

really , looking the part , all for 200bht/hour.

Much better than being on benefits in the cold UK . What, will all this social security reform, rubbish .

With a no fail Education system in Thailand , who cares ,

PS, it is far better than the Thai nationals ,or French, German, Italian, Africans etc .err teaching Inglish .

Edited April 6, 2015 by elliss

[Scott]

Off-topic post removed.

[xebozone]

Thanks, Scott for removing that... although I did read it.

To the poster, I'm not sure how my posts would have given you the impression that I don't speak English, but your response was a good laugh regardless.

Thanks, and good day to you!

Also, thanks to everyone for the encouragement!

Edited April 6, 2015 by xebozone

[Too]

Hello!

200B per hour is the rate for Thai English teachers, I would say.

However, you'd be taken advantage of if you didn't have a Non-B

visa for teaching, a work permit or experience of teaching for years.

Just because you're a NES doesn't mean that you're a good teacher.

I've met one English woman who has been teaching in Thailand for

almost a decade now. I'm actually teaching the students (who are in

their 30's and 40's) she used to teach, and they unanimously told me,

'She was RUBBISH! We're happy she's gone now!' She will mumble

with a strong Cockney accent when she speaks. She won't speak

slowly or clearly to the students.

If you're a NES and a good teacher, you can get paid at least 500B

per hour no worries.

Will you teach alone or have a Thai assistant in class? I'm afraid you'd

find it hard if you DO teach alone with no experience of teaching in

Thailand before. Do you speak Thai?

*It's only 2 hours' per class, true, but I would be teaching 2 classes a day,

with a 2 hour break in-between... so it's really a 6 hour per day commitment

(not including question time after the class, etc), with only 4 hours' of paid time.*

You're paid PER HOUR, not PER MONTH or PER YEAR, aren't you? Do you

really think you will get paid for a 2-hour break as well? Could you also get paid

for a 1-hour lunch break if you were paid per hour and worked 9 to 5 in Australia,

for example?

Edited April 8, 2015 by Too

[BobbyL]

Jesus Christ, 200b is laughable. Thai teachers I know make more than that.

[Too]

Jesus Christ, 200b is laughable. Thai teachers I know make more than that.

Absolutely! This is the exact hourly rate for the Thai English teachers here that the Thai English teacher

at our school told me about. It stunned me a lot, too! It just depends upon which province your school is

located and/or which school you're teaching at.

Thai English teachers should get paid even better in BKK or one of the major cities than at a small private

school in a small town far away from the major cities, as you can imagine. Just for your info, in the town

where I live now you can easily find and rent a house which has two bed rooms, a living room, a kitchen

and a bathroom for 2,500B per month, and for 2,000B or even less per month if you drive a half hour from

here.

Moreover, the salary for the Thais who begin to teach right after graduating from university or college start

at around 12,000B per month.

This is exactly why some Thai teachers will envy you so beware!!

Edited April 8, 2015 by Too

[CNXBKKMAN]

Hello!

200B per hour is the rate for Thai English teachers, I would say.

However, you'd be taken advantage of if you didn't have a Non-B

visa for teaching, a work permit or experience of teaching for years.

Just because you're a NES doesn't mean that you're a good teacher.

I've met one English woman who has been teaching in Thailand for

almost a decade now. I'm actually teaching the students (who are in

their 30's and 40's) she used to teach, and they unanimously told me,

'She was RUBBISH! We're happy she's gone now!' She will mumble

with a strong Cockney accent when she speaks. She won't speak

slowly or clearly to the students.

If you're a NES and a good teacher, you can get paid at least 500B

per hour no worries.

Will you teach alone or have a Thai assistant in class? I'm afraid you'd

find it hard if you DO teach alone with no experience of teaching in

Thailand before. Do you speak Thai?

*It's only 2 hours' per class, true, but I would be teaching 2 classes a day,

with a 2 hour break in-between... so it's really a 6 hour per day commitment

(not including question time after the class, etc), with only 4 hours' of paid time.*

You're paid PER HOUR, not PER MONTH or PER YEAR, aren't you? Do you

really think you will get paid for a 2-hour break as well? Could you also get paid

for a 1-hour lunch break if you were paid per hour and worked 9 to 5 in Australia,

for example?

Do you teach English comprehension? The op clearly states he has to give 6 hours of his time and only get paid for the 4 hours he teaches.

[Rhys]

Hmmm...well on the isle i suppose whatever fee you take is the deal, but these are a couple of standard rates around the track.

General workshop fees...BA degree 600 baht/ hour. MA 1000-1200

The Ph.Ds.. Pretty High but "Deeper" Some cannot be bothered-research you know, yet they seem to make in the 1000/hour range.

One to one....depends what you arrange.

Some private schools, 500 baht and hour just to read and have English speaking opportunities with Junior who is not motivated.

However, there are some excellent "teachers" langauge teachers who have excellent practical language lessons and prepare their lessons well.

You some what have to look at the people hiring the teachers.. GIGO.. economics.. Some Thais activately go out and locate the lowest qualified NES not NEST...thus the problems.

Edited April 8, 2015 by Rhys

[Too]

Hello!

200B per hour is the rate for Thai English teachers, I would say.

However, you'd be taken advantage of if you didn't have a Non-B

visa for teaching, a work permit or experience of teaching for years.

Just because you're a NES doesn't mean that you're a good teacher.

I've met one English woman who has been teaching in Thailand for

almost a decade now. I'm actually teaching the students (who are in

their 30's and 40's) she used to teach, and they unanimously told me,

'She was RUBBISH! We're happy she's gone now!' She will mumble

with a strong Cockney accent when she speaks. She won't speak

slowly or clearly to the students.

If you're a NES and a good teacher, you can get paid at least 500B

per hour no worries.

Will you teach alone or have a Thai assistant in class? I'm afraid you'd

find it hard if you DO teach alone with no experience of teaching in

Thailand before. Do you speak Thai?

*It's only 2 hours' per class, true, but I would be teaching 2 classes a day,

with a 2 hour break in-between... so it's really a 6 hour per day commitment

(not including question time after the class, etc), with only 4 hours' of paid time.*

You're paid PER HOUR, not PER MONTH or PER YEAR, aren't you? Do you

really think you will get paid for a 2-hour break as well? Could you also get paid

for a 1-hour lunch break if you were paid per hour and worked 9 to 5 in Australia,

for example?

Do you teach English comprehension? The op clearly states he has to give 6 hours of his time and only get paid for the 4 hours he teaches.

I wouldn't even mind if I were paid per hour, taught 2hrs from 9 to 11 and

another 2 hrs from 13 to 15 and only got paid for teaching 4hrs a day, for

example. I used to teach 1 hour from 9 to 10 and another hour from 15 to

16 and only got paid for teaching 2 hrs a day. I went back home for the

5hr-break in between, though. I didn't even complain about this.

Yes, he could ask his boss if he could also get paid for the 2hr break to

see what happens. Shall I ask my Thai teachers or even the director if

he could get paid for 6hrs for which he's committed to the school, including

a 2-hour break he doesn't even teach for.

You can go for another if you don't like the one you've got now no worries,

and maybe you shouldn't try hard to ask The Thais for too much; otherwise

they'd turn you in to the police for teaching illegally and even shout at you,

'This is Thailand! Go back home now!' Beware!!

Edited April 9, 2015 by Too