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I happened upon this video. It has some western women stopped in the street talking about western men who come to Thailand for the women.

What i like about this is not all the comments are overly judgemental. None of the women say 'The man is fat and ugly and cannot find a woman back home".

I find when the role is reversed and Western MEN talk about Western WOMEN they become bitter and abusive to western women on a personal basis

https://youtu.be/jX2c5HH4CYA?t=10s

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A divorce in the western world will all but cripple a man financially,and often the man has to pay through the nose for children his ex wife,denies him access too,she knowing full well that she is immune from justice,however many court orders a judge hands down ,she will never be jailed,as it would 'adversley affect ' the children,compare this to THailand where all assets brought into the marriage after said marriage have to be split 50-50,i think in a lot of ways,the Thai system is better,as for western women judiging or gossiping about a falang with a Thai lady,i could not give a fig,they can prattle all they like for i care not a wit for what they say.

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Those Western women - on the whole - weren't over-judgmental because the elderly Western men who come here for romance with bar girls simply don't register on their radar beyond being something to chuckle about on the flight home.

Western men can be more bitter and abusive about Western women because many of them have suffered a lifetime of rejection/marginalization/indifference at the hands of the young, attractive ones they've lusted after since puberty.

From what I've seen and heard, they relish any opportunity to vent at Western women letting them know that they're with slim, sexy Thai women who love them, warts and all.

The heart-rending shriek of unbridled anguish emitted by every Western woman upon realising she's missed her chance with the 5' 6", 300lb colossus of a man walking away from her with his teerak is deafening cheesy.gif.pagespeed.ce.HaOxm9--ZvISAZ3- alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20>

You left out the part where the western woman leaves the man morally and financially bankrupt, with limited access to his children after the divorce... Is it any wonder western men sound more bitter than western woman on this topic? I think not considering the slanted legal nature of marriage / divorce in the west...

Gee I'm not getting into a discussion on Western divorce legislation but suffice it to say you can't tar all Western women with the same brush.

Don't hate the players, bro . . . hate the GAME

Edit: Do you really think a Thai woman wouldn't clean you out in a divorce given half the chance?

Hating the GAME was my point and western women know how to play it to their benefit... If this were not a fact, then Thailand would not have as many western men coming here...

Of course Thai women will clean you out if you are not diligent, and sometimes even if you are... The difference is that the laws in Thailand are not stacked in the woman's favor...

This point is cogent to the topic as the OP stated that western women are not as negative as western men when discussing one another... The men are more negative because they have most likely been cleaned out once or twice by western women, while the western women are the benefactors of the fleecing... Thus the difference in tone of their views of each other...

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Those Western women - on the whole - weren't over-judgmental because the elderly Western men who come here for romance with bar girls simply don't register on their radar beyond being something to chuckle about on the flight home.

Western men can be more bitter and abusive about Western women because many of them have suffered a lifetime of rejection/marginalization/indifference at the hands of the young, attractive ones they've lusted after since puberty.

From what I've seen and heard, they relish any opportunity to vent at Western women letting them know that they're with slim, sexy Thai women who love them, warts and all.

The heart-rending shriek of unbridled anguish emitted by every Western woman upon realising she's missed her chance with the 5' 6", 300lb colossus of a man walking away from her with his teerak is deafening cheesy.gif

In the main western women they don't seem to care

When they do feel slighthed or rejected though, i don't hear these women criticising the men's physical appearance or the men's personal characteristics

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Hating the GAME was my point and western women know how to play it to their benefit... If this were not a fact, then Thailand would not have as many western men coming here...

Of course Thai women will clean you out if you are not diligent, and sometimes even if you are... The difference is that the laws in Thailand are not stacked in the woman's favor...

This point is cogent to the topic as the OP stated that western women are not as negative as western men when discussing one another... The men are more negative because they have most likely been cleaned out once or twice by western women, while the western women are the benefactors of the fleecing... Thus the difference in tone of their views of each other...

There are a lot of assumptions you are making there loptr, regarding possible fleecing and beneficiaries.

It still comes down to why a large group of farang men in thailand are so scathing and vitriolic towards western women and the western women are not towards the men.

I can think of many men I have met who had nothing of great monetary value in their relationship with a western woman, so therefore nothing great to lose.

The bitterness expressed by them seems to me to be more about rejection than financial loss

You are correct when people make assumptions about the actions of others and I did not paint all western women with the same brush...

Given the demographic of many western men that travel to or live in Thailand, I would wager that a greater than average number of them have had negative relationships with western women... Yes, another assumption, but given my own straw poll, this is the case... If this were not the case, would these men even be in Thailand? So of course the perception is going to be skewed...

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For every hard-done-by man, there's a similarly-aggrieved woman who feels she got the ar5e-end of the stick too

I a guy got out with $100, the woman will complain she got the ar5e-end of the stick.

I've never met a divorced woman who was satisfied with her cut.

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Besides, for all the depiction of Western women as horrible dragons waiting to drive a stake into our hearts, every last one of you would go the whole nine yards - yes, including marriage - if you had the chance to with a young, blonde hardbody.

You didn't.

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I'm not sure about other countries,but many women in the US thnk their s_ _ _ don't stink.Many are spoiled beyond

Belief.Might be that they were spoiled growing up.So when eligible men go to other countries and get A decent

Mate it's hard for the American women to deal with it.They brought it on themselves.They only have themselves to

Blame.

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In the West, marriage is for life, and the fact that so few of us fulfilled that obligation is a sad indictment of our willingness to over-commit.

An older acquaintance if mine told me that his (approx. 20 t.o.) daughter was more scathing of the middle-aged Western home breakers and their Asian 'bimbos' than was his wife.

We all have our faults and our prejudices, but we should not condemn others for their limits, because rarely can we appreciate our own sufficient to understand theirs

SC

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Those Western women - on the whole - weren't over-judgmental because the elderly Western men who come here for romance with bar girls simply don't register on their radar beyond being something to chuckle about on the flight home.

Western men can be more bitter and abusive about Western women because many of them have suffered a lifetime of rejection/marginalization/indifference at the hands of the young, attractive ones they've lusted after since puberty.

From what I've seen and heard, they relish any opportunity to vent at Western women letting them know that they're with slim, sexy Thai women who love them, warts and all.

The heart-rending shriek of unbridled anguish emitted by every Western woman upon realising she's missed her chance with the 5' 6", 300lb colossus of a man walking away from her with his teerak is deafening cheesy.gif.pagespeed.ce.HaOxm9--ZvISAZ3- alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20>

You left out the part where the western woman leaves the man morally and financially bankrupt, with limited access to his children after the divorce... Is it any wonder western men sound more bitter than western woman on this topic? I think not considering the slanted legal nature of marriage / divorce in the west...

Gee I'm not getting into a discussion on Western divorce legislation but suffice it to say you can't tar all Western women with the same brush.

Don't hate the players, bro . . . hate the GAME

Edit: Do you really think a Thai woman wouldn't clean you out in a divorce given half the chance?

Thai women are limited to 50% after the marriage. Anything owned before stays with the original owner. Not true in the western world.

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If you base your marriage on the divorce then what's the point of marriage?

Marriage is about joining, not lying together. You're clearly none of you welders (PJ excepted)

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"not all comments are overly judgemental" ?

hmmm...

here is a summary:

Western woman #1: "it is not right"

Western woman #2: "it is unfair for the Thai women" "western men should not take part"

Western woman #3: she could actually sympathize with the men

Western woman #4: "they are desperate, it's all about money"

Western woman #5: "it's sad" "sorry for the Thai women who are being taken advantage of"

hmm...

Only one from five could really see the men's angle.

Also, it really depends on who you ask these questions. I'd say the editors of the video picked the interviews so the video could give a false impression about how balanced or unbalanced the responses actually were in reality...

And finally, let's not forget the interviewees were already in Thailand !

My experience is that people who have never been to Thailand have a prejudice about what is going on in Thai bars that is much much worse than the actual reality. Almost all Westerners who came to Thailand told me the bars and prostitution in Thailand turned out to be completely different from what they had imagined.

I guess a bunch of interviews done in Oklahoma City would have turned out very differently too.

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"not all comments are overly judgemental" ?

hmmm...

here is a summary:

Western woman #1: "it is not right"

Western woman #2: "it is unfair for the Thai women" "western men should not take part"

Western woman #3: she could actually sympathize with the men

Western woman #4: "they are desperate, it's all about money"

Western woman #5: "it's sad" "sorry for the Thai women who are being taken advantage of"

hmm...

I'm not watching it again, but the female interviewer gave a very big, happy and cheerful 'Thank you' to the lady that was pouring scorn on the men.

Number 4 maybe.

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"not all comments are overly judgemental" ?

hmmm...

here is a summary:

Western woman #1: "it is not right"

Western woman #2: "it is unfair for the Thai women" "western men should not take part"

Western woman #3: she could actually sympathize with the men

Western woman #4: "they are desperate, it's all about money"

Western woman #5: "it's sad" "sorry for the Thai women who are being taken advantage of"

hmm...

Only one from five could really see the men's angle.

Also, it really depends on who you ask these questions. I'd say the editors of the video picked the interviews so the video could give a false impression about how balanced or unbalanced the responses actually were in reality...

And finally, let's not forget the interviewees were already in Thailand !

My experience is that people who have never been to Thailand have a prejudice about what is going on in Thai bars that is much much worse than the actual reality. Almost all Westerners who came to Thailand told me the bars and prostitution in Thailand turned out to be completely different from what they had imagined.

I guess a bunch of interviews done in Oklahoma City would have turned out very differently too.

I bet you've never been to Oklahoma City
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Those Western women - on the whole - weren't over-judgmental because the elderly Western men who come here for romance with bar girls simply don't register on their radar beyond being something to chuckle about on the flight home.

Western men can be more bitter and abusive about Western women because many of them have suffered a lifetime of rejection/marginalization/indifference at the hands of the young, attractive ones they've lusted after since puberty.

From what I've seen and heard, they relish any opportunity to vent at Western women letting them know that they're with slim, sexy Thai women who love them, warts and all.

The heart-rending shriek of unbridled anguish emitted by every Western woman upon realising she's missed her chance with the 5' 6", 300lb colossus of a man walking away from her with his teerak is deafening cheesy.gif.pagespeed.ce.HaOxm9--ZvISAZ3- alt=cheesy.gif width=32 height=20>

You left out the part where the western woman leaves the man morally and financially bankrupt, with limited access to his children after the divorce... Is it any wonder western men sound more bitter than western woman on this topic? I think not considering the slanted legal nature of marriage / divorce in the west...

Gee I'm not getting into a discussion on Western divorce legislation but suffice it to say you can't tar all Western women with the same brush.

Don't hate the players, bro . . . hate the GAME

Edit: Do you really think a Thai woman wouldn't clean you out in a divorce given half the chance?

My friend is in the middle of a divorce/access battle in the UK right now with the Thai wife he met in Pattaya 11 years ago. Strangely enough everything was hunky dory till she received her British passport.

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What about the men on here that complain that they were thrown out of the house they built, bank accounts emptied, kids removed never to be seen again?

I don't think it was a Western wife that did that...

I must say, that Thailand can take all the big fat Westeners who can't admit to themselves that they can't find a nice woman in the West.

We'll keep the good ones for ourselves!! The ones that accept us as we are and are not trying to live like they are 25 year old adonis's anymore.

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I hardly ever listen to anything any woman says.

Let them speak for as long as they like, about anything they like, to whomever they like.

Personal music players are an amazing and useful invention.

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What about the men on here that complain that they were thrown out of the house they built, bank accounts emptied, kids removed never to be seen again?

I don't think it was a Western wife that did that...

I must say, that Thailand can take all the big fat Westeners who can't admit to themselves that they can't find a nice woman in the West.

We'll keep the good ones for ourselves!! The ones that accept us as we are and are not trying to live like they are 25 year old adonis's anymore.

I dont see how anything you said would worry any men who simply dont want a western woman. Why would they care if you are interested in them or not.

You dont seem to grasp that many men simply dont want a western woman.

I'm happy you are keeping the good ones that obviously also cant get a woman in the west because they are not there.

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