Peace TV’s operating license revoked by the Broadcasting Board

[Fat Haggis]

Sounds Perfectly Normal scorecard.

What does it imply? Well it could imply that they're red/UDD supporters and that channel in particular has a substantial following which the NBTC would be able to produce pretty accurate data to say how many people watch that channel over the country.

They could then come to a 2+2 = 5 conclusion that those who watched such channels are supporting said channel.

If 93% of the population allegedly support the PM, then there would be no real need to continue watching the red lunatic Juttaporn would there?

Would you come to the conclusion that if I said I only watched Liverpool FC football games on the TV and not Chelsea FC or any other teams games that there would be a fair chance it would make me a Liverpool fan? ?

[metisdead]

Off topic deflection posts have been removed as well as the replies. This is not about Fox news or the US.

[2fishin2]

Enough about the politics in Thailand. If you are a guest here, get over it and live with it. If you live outside of Thailand and are anti Thai, you are nothing more than pedlars of another countries political ideals, and maybe agents to inflame and influence.

Typical Thai answer to everything....

[scorecard]

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Sounds Perfectly Normal scorecard.


What does it imply? Well it could imply that they're red/UDD supporters and that channel in particular has a substantial following which the NBTC would be able to produce pretty accurate data to say how many people watch that channel over the country.

They could then come to a 2+2 = 5 conclusion that those who watched such channels are supporting said channel.

If 93% of the population allegedly support the PM, then there would be no real need to continue watching the red lunatic Juttaporn would there?

Would you come to the conclusion that if I said I only watched Liverpool FC football games on the TV and not Chelsea FC or any other teams games that there would be a fair chance it would make me a Liverpool fan? ?

I don't really buy your analogy because there will always be football fans who watch other games / other clubs because it's been touted that it will be an exciting match etc.

In regard to the Peace channel and similar channels there will always be people who watch, perhaps once in six months, out of curiosity, or perhaps to confirm their suspicions of what this channel is broadcasting, or to learn otherwise.

The 2 old colleagues I already mentioned to some extent fit the curiosity example. Plus they have a strong desire to be well informed about politics and political activities, and they keep records, and they therefore want to compare the information they already have with what's being spruked on Peace and other similar channels.

Edited April 29, 2015 by scorecard

[tonbridgebrit]

They don't like the truth or criticism of their manufactured truth.

Closing down TV stations because they challenge the Governments version of events is not a good sign for the future and the people of this country

They don't like the truth or criticism?

So you have a breakdown of what was said on "Peace TV" then? Can you please share this because as you know I rely on FACTS and opposed to BELIEFS.

Being a red shirt station if history is anything to go by it was shut down due to trying to divide society through hate, promote sedition, organize violence and simply spew an evil propaganda that propagated and fostered the violence and death the reds made famous in 2013/14. Their ethos in a petri dish would explode into a blood red fungus that only 7% of the population agree with while they use this TV station as a front to desperately stay relevant while the majority of Thai's have already simply turned their back on them. (with the exception of course of a few TVF farangs)

Financially crippling newspapers that didn't toe the shin party line was not a good sign for the future of the people of the country either yet they where an apparent democratic government…The Junta never purported to be democratic!!!

So you complain when an undemocratic Junta is undemocratic, but you have no qualms with a 1/15th democratic government being undemocratic.

Speaking of beliefs. Have you been on holiday lately? I am eager to know the latest official tourist numbers...

djjamie, bearing in mind that it is illegal to say negative stuff about the junta, and bearing in mind that PeaceTv has been closed down, well, do you reckon that it would be reasonable for Thailand to show consistency and close down the Nation newspaper ?

I mean, it doesn't look right if they close down a tv station that's being paid for by Thaksin (surely ?), and they allow the Nation to carry on, when they're both breaking the law. Okay, so the Nation is operated and financed by a load of Thais who look the same as the people who have got Chinese take-away foodshops in England and Australia, (these are the middle-class Chinese-Thais) but surely, that's not a good reason to let them break the law ? Consistency, that's what I'm trying to say.

So PeaceTv is being closed down, but the Nation newspaper is being allowed to carry on, and they're both doing similar stuff.

And, oh look, it's happening elsewhere as well. See, Abhisit goes and blast's the CDC for creating a new parliamentary dictatorship (this article has appeared in ThaiVisa), and he's allowed to do that. If it was one of Thaksin's boys who said the same thing, well, he'd be told to shut up.

Again, why the inconsistency ?

[Fat Haggis]

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Sounds Perfectly Normal scorecard.

What does it imply? Well it could imply that they're red/UDD supporters and that channel in particular has a substantial following which the NBTC would be able to produce pretty accurate data to say how many people watch that channel over the country.

They could then come to a 2+2 = 5 conclusion that those who watched such channels are supporting said channel.

If 93% of the population allegedly support the PM, then there would be no real need to continue watching the red lunatic Juttaporn would there?

Would you come to the conclusion that if I said I only watched Liverpool FC football games on the TV and not Chelsea FC or any other teams games that there would be a fair chance it would make me a Liverpool fan? ?

I don't really buy your analogy because there will always be football fans who watch other games / other clubs because it's been touted that it will be an exciting match etc.

In regard to the Peace channel and similar channels there will always be people who watch, perhaps once in six months, out of curiosity, or perhaps to confirm their suspicions of what this channel is broadcasting, or to learn otherwise.

The 2 old colleagues I already mentioned to some extent fit the curiosity example. Plus they have a strong desire to be well informed about politics and political activities, and they keep records, and they therefore want to compare the information they already have with what's being spruked on Peace and other similar channels.

And this is why I also listen and read both sides of the arguments when it comes to the same politics, what your friends are doing is investigative research. Absolutely nothing wrong with that at all.

I favour zero side, I support neither side, I wouldn't waste my time in trying to either, but I am against a lot of what the Junta stands for, I don't buy a lot of what they are saying, I read stuff thats not allowed to be discussed, I still believe there's a bigger picture and game being played, lots of things have happened to various people, that never makes it to TVF news, perhaps for the better.

In think your friends are smart cookies as they seem to be some of the few who have open minds, and like to keep themselves up to speed on current affairs in both camps.

Good post scorecard !!

[Fat Haggis]

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[scorecard]

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They don't like the truth or criticism of their manufactured truth.

Closing down TV stations because they challenge the Governments version of events is not a good sign for the future and the people of this country

They don't like the truth or criticism?

So you have a breakdown of what was said on "Peace TV" then? Can you please share this because as you know I rely on FACTS and opposed to BELIEFS.

Being a red shirt station if history is anything to go by it was shut down due to trying to divide society through hate, promote sedition, organize violence and simply spew an evil propaganda that propagated and fostered the violence and death the reds made famous in 2013/14. Their ethos in a petri dish would explode into a blood red fungus that only 7% of the population agree with while they use this TV station as a front to desperately stay relevant while the majority of Thai's have already simply turned their back on them. (with the exception of course of a few TVF farangs)

Financially crippling newspapers that didn't toe the shin party line was not a good sign for the future of the people of the country either yet they where an apparent democratic government…The Junta never purported to be democratic!!!

So you complain when an undemocratic Junta is undemocratic, but you have no qualms with a 1/15th democratic government being undemocratic.

Speaking of beliefs. Have you been on holiday lately? I am eager to know the latest official tourist numbers...

djjamie, bearing in mind that it is illegal to say negative stuff about the junta, and bearing in mind that PeaceTv has been closed down, well, do you reckon that it would be reasonable for Thailand to show consistency and close down the Nation newspaper ?

I mean, it doesn't look right if they close down a tv station that's being paid for by Thaksin (surely ?), and they allow the Nation to carry on, when they're both breaking the law. Okay, so the Nation is operated and financed by a load of Thais who look the same as the people who have got Chinese take-away foodshops in England and Australia, (these are the middle-class Chinese-Thais) but surely, that's not a good reason to let them break the law ? Consistency, that's what I'm trying to say.

So PeaceTv is being closed down, but the Nation newspaper is being allowed to carry on, and they're both doing similar stuff.

And, oh look, it's happening elsewhere as well. See, Abhisit goes and blast's the CDC for creating a new parliamentary dictatorship (this article has appeared in ThaiVisa), and he's allowed to do that. If it was one of Thaksin's boys who said the same thing, well, he'd be told to shut up.
Again, why the inconsistency ?

Not exactly hate speech.

[waitforusalso]

The amount of revenue lost for Thai economy since the coup far surpasses the debt incurred by the Rice scam,

...the current account has been in surplus since last October. In December, the surplus hit an all-time high of US$5.15 billion. From 32.43 per dollar at end-September, the

baht rose 0.3 per cent to 32.36 at end-February. It weakened in the first week after the rate cut in March, but later regained strength. From $14.2 billion last year or 3.8 per cent of GDP, the International Monetary Fund expects a $17.2-billion surplus this year or 4.4 per cent. "It is interesting to note, however, that the terms of the trade index has actually gone up by about 10 per cent alongside the 7-per-cent gain in the baht's real effective exchange rate (REER) in the past 12 months.

This is unlike in 2011-13 (Yingluck government), when the terms of trade fell by 3 per cent while the REER gained some 10 per cent," he said.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Exporters-wish-for-a-weaker-baht-unlikely-to-be-&lt;deleted&gt;-30258803.html

I see you never let facts get in the way of your propaganda!

It is quite obvious that you don't know the meaning of these terms. Neither the worsening of terms of trade or the depreciation of a currency are necessarily a bad thing for an economy.

You're wrong. Once you depreciate your currency, you have no more ways to stimulate capital investment. Right now, Thailand is not under any pressure to drop interest rates because capital outflow is minimal (foreign companies taking out some profit) and the low price of imported oil offsets the lessened exports. Don't fix something if it ain't broke! From your previous posts, I don't get the impression that you are well-read in international finances, balance of trade, capital movement, effects of fiddling with interest rates. Thailand is doing fine, financially, and the economy is well under control with non-political-cronies as Minister of Finance and the head of the Bank of Thailand. This government needs to actually perform (especially after the losses incurred by the previous Yingluck Thaksin government) and not reward its political allies, so it has appointed persons based on their abilities to manage the economy/government; rather a new concept for Thailand but I expect you'll get used to it.

It's really simple, Yingluck's government spent money it didn't have, and off-the-books, while Prayut's government is in the black and running a surplus.

Peace TV was involved in the same propaganda/misinterpretation as you and FH put on this forum. Incorrectly trashing the current government while painting a rosy picture of the previous Yingluck Thaksin government. This breeds discontentment and a disconnect from reality. They should have been shut down months ago.

You are funny. Telling others they are wrong & then making a fool out of himself in the next sentence.

"Once you depreciate your currency, you have no more ways to stimulate capital investment."

It is generally accepted (just do some reading) that currency depreciation leads to increased FDI, i.e. stimulates capital investment. It also often leads to an expansion in export industries thereby stimulating more capital investment.

"Thailand is not under any pressure to drop interest rates "

Note that the BoT cut its benchmark interest rate today!

I did my reading while getting my degree in Finance & before becoming a senior examiner in Economics for the IBO. & u?

[rametindallas]

The amount of revenue lost for Thai economy since the coup far surpasses the debt incurred by the Rice scam,

...the current account has been in surplus since last October. In December, the surplus hit an all-time high of US$5.15 billion. From 32.43 per dollar at end-September, the

baht rose 0.3 per cent to 32.36 at end-February. It weakened in the first week after the rate cut in March, but later regained strength. From $14.2 billion last year or 3.8 per cent of GDP, the International Monetary Fund expects a $17.2-billion surplus this year or 4.4 per cent. "It is interesting to note, however, that the terms of the trade index has actually gone up by about 10 per cent alongside the 7-per-cent gain in the baht's real effective exchange rate (REER) in the past 12 months.

This is unlike in 2011-13 (Yingluck government), when the terms of trade fell by 3 per cent while the REER gained some 10 per cent," he said.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Exporters-wish-for-a-weaker-baht-unlikely-to-be-&lt;deleted&gt;-30258803.html

I see you never let facts get in the way of your propaganda!

It is quite obvious that you don't know the meaning of these terms. Neither the worsening of terms of trade or the depreciation of a currency are necessarily a bad thing for an economy.

You're wrong. Once you depreciate your currency, you have no more ways to stimulate capital investment. Right now, Thailand is not under any pressure to drop interest rates because capital outflow is minimal (foreign companies taking out some profit) and the low price of imported oil offsets the lessened exports. Don't fix something if it ain't broke! From your previous posts, I don't get the impression that you are well-read in international finances, balance of trade, capital movement, effects of fiddling with interest rates. Thailand is doing fine, financially, and the economy is well under control with non-political-cronies as Minister of Finance and the head of the Bank of Thailand. This government needs to actually perform (especially after the losses incurred by the previous Yingluck Thaksin government) and not reward its political allies, so it has appointed persons based on their abilities to manage the economy/government; rather a new concept for Thailand but I expect you'll get used to it.

It's really simple, Yingluck's government spent money it didn't have, and off-the-books, while Prayut's government is in the black and running a surplus.

Peace TV was involved in the same propaganda/misinterpretation as you and FH put on this forum. Incorrectly trashing the current government while painting a rosy picture of the previous Yingluck Thaksin government. This breeds discontentment and a disconnect from reality. They should have been shut down months ago.

You are funny. Telling others they are wrong & then making a fool out of himself in the next sentence.

"Once you depreciate your currency, you have no more ways to stimulate capital investment."

It is generally accepted (just do some reading) that currency depreciation leads to increased FDI, i.e. stimulates capital investment. It also often leads to an expansion in export industries thereby stimulating more capital investment.

"Thailand is not under any pressure to drop interest rates "

Note that the BoT cut its benchmark interest rate today!

I did my reading while getting my degree in Finance & before becoming a senior examiner in Economics for the IBO. & u?

You must have gotten your degree on-line as your reading comprehension is abominable. I said, "Once you depreciate your currency, you have no more ways to stimulate capital investment". Now, what do you do to stimulate the economy after you have dropped interest rates to zero? You didn't address that.

Note that the BoT cut its benchmark interest rate today!

Sorry, but I'm not a fortune-teller so could not know in advance what the BoT would do re: interest rates. All the published stories were saying they would hold steady. Why? Did you know in advance?

The headline in The Nation said it was a Surprise. The story also says, The World Bank estimates growth for 2015 will be closer to 3.5 per cent. I think most developed countries would consider that a success.

You never let an opportunity pass to trash the current government, do you?

[ikke]

"Reacting to the order revoking Peace TVs licence, Mr Natthawut Saikua, co-leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, said he suspected the order came from someone above the Broadcasting Board."

What a clever man

Bet you, UDD, has got plenty others like him.

The first thing they need to do is to prevent Greeks to make comments !

[Ricardo]

"Reacting to the order revoking Peace TVs licence, Mr Natthawut Saikua, co-leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, said he suspected the order came from someone above the Broadcasting Board."

What a clever man

Bet you, UDD, has got plenty others like him.

The first thing they need to do is to prevent Greeks to make comments !

No, No, Greeks carrying-off massive-loans are surely far more dangerous, to the rest of the world ?

[rubl]

"Reacting to the order revoking Peace TVs licence, Mr Natthawut Saikua, co-leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, said he suspected the order came from someone above the Broadcasting Board."

What a clever man

Bet you, UDD, has got plenty others like him.

The first thing they need to do is to prevent Greeks to make comments !

No, No, Greeks carrying-off massive-loans are surely far more dangerous, to the rest of the world ?

Ah, but look at the beautiful wooden horse we got in return

[Linky]

Allowing only one side of politics a voice and denying people a choice is what is causing a division. What did Prayuth say, "The People must choose, not Politicians" He floods the airways with his speeches and propoganda rubbish and it forced onto the people but if the other side speaks out they are shut down. Where are the choices that the leader speaks of apart from him and him.

Nobody is forced to watch Prayuth's talks, every set has an OFF button. I haven't looked at Peace TV, but if the content is anything like these mercenary hate-mongers were delivering in 2010, then licence cancellation is pretty tame. I'm still asking why they aren't in court yet to face terrorism charges.

BTW remember how the Allied democracies treated Lord Haw-Haw.

Nobody is forced to watch Peace TV. Every set has an OFF switch. ?

[Linky]

"Reacting to the order revoking Peace TVs licence, Mr Natthawut Saikua, co-leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, said he suspected the order came from someone above the Broadcasting Board."

What a clever man

Bet you, UDD, has got plenty others like him.

The first thing they need to do is to prevent Greeks to make comments !

His sarcasm is lost because even dear General said he had nothing to do with it and said it was the decision of the Broadcasting Board.

[Ricardo]

"Reacting to the order revoking Peace TVs licence, Mr Natthawut Saikua, co-leader of the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, said he suspected the order came from someone above the Broadcasting Board."

What a clever man

Bet you, UDD, has got plenty others like him.

The first thing they need to do is to prevent Greeks to make comments !

No, No, Greeks carrying-off massive-loans are surely far more dangerous, to the rest of the world ?

Ah, but look at the beautiful wooden horse we got in return

Sponsored by a popular American-brand of condom, I believe ?

[waitforusalso]

You're wrong. Once you depreciate your currency, you have no more ways to stimulate capital investment. Right now, Thailand is not under any pressure to drop interest rates because capital outflow is minimal (foreign companies taking out some profit) and the low price of imported oil offsets the lessened exports. Don't fix something if it ain't broke! From your previous posts, I don't get the impression that you are well-read in international finances, balance of trade, capital movement, effects of fiddling with interest rates. Thailand is doing fine, financially, and the economy is well under control with non-political-cronies as Minister of Finance and the head of the Bank of Thailand. This government needs to actually perform (especially after the losses incurred by the previous Yingluck Thaksin government) and not reward its political allies, so it has appointed persons based on their abilities to manage the economy/government; rather a new concept for Thailand but I expect you'll get used to it.

It's really simple, Yingluck's government spent money it didn't have, and off-the-books, while Prayut's government is in the black and running a surplus.

Peace TV was involved in the same propaganda/misinterpretation as you and FH put on this forum. Incorrectly trashing the current government while painting a rosy picture of the previous Yingluck Thaksin government. This breeds discontentment and a disconnect from reality. They should have been shut down months ago.

You are funny. Telling others they are wrong & then making a fool out of himself in the next sentence.

"Once you depreciate your currency, you have no more ways to stimulate capital investment."

It is generally accepted (just do some reading) that currency depreciation leads to increased FDI, i.e. stimulates capital investment. It also often leads to an expansion in export industries thereby stimulating more capital investment.

"Thailand is not under any pressure to drop interest rates "

Note that the BoT cut its benchmark interest rate today!

I did my reading while getting my degree in Finance & before becoming a senior examiner in Economics for the IBO. & u?

You must have gotten your degree on-line as your reading comprehension is abominable. I said, "Once you depreciate your currency, you have no more ways to stimulate capital investment". Now, what do you do to stimulate the economy after you have dropped interest rates to zero? You didn't address that.

Note that the BoT cut its benchmark interest rate today!

Sorry, but I'm not a fortune-teller so could not know in advance what the BoT would do re: interest rates. All the published stories were saying they would hold steady. Why? Did you know in advance?

The headline in The Nation said it was a Surprise. The story also says, The World Bank estimates growth for 2015 will be closer to 3.5 per cent. I think most developed countries would consider that a success.

You never let an opportunity pass to trash the current government, do you?

Currency depreciation and decreasing interest rates are not the same thing. You are obviously confused.

[mango66]

Another example of democracy the Prayuth way.

looks you are a long time here in LOS,

But your comment degrade you as a rice farmer from the north with a coloured r tshirt

[aripengu]

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Yeah better stick with Doctor Prayuth's teletubbies, invoke some fairy tales from the 1950's and think everything will go back to where it was in the golden days. Don't think for a second society has changed, noooo!

Thailand will be divided and see conflict as long as there is no attempt to start a serious dialogue, without taboos, examining the underlying conditions that have led to the present situation.

But too much saving face, so they prefer to fight, instead of admitting their own mistakes.

They all say they love Thailand, but what do they love exactly? The telephone poles?

Dialog between who ?

it is part of the Thaksin agenda to create divide, it was easy when you could identify the simple red/yellow diversity but now that doesn't exist, yellows are gone, what you have now are Thaksins handful of red terrorists with diminishing support and the rest of Thailand, the red leaders might be carrying on like they are in opposition to something but what is clear to me is that they have no mandate to represent anyone and no opposition to fight, they are a bunch of radicals that are trying and failing to create divide at the behest of the criminal on the run but it isn't working.

They have made several attempts to stir things up using bombs and propaganda TV shows but all have failed to rouse any interest from the populace, IMO the reds lost any support they might have had when the children were murdered on the streets of Trat and they were seen to be publically gloating and rejoicing from a stage in North Thailand

The current situation is not ideal and the PM has an issue with diplomacy that is doing him no favours but he is being effective at routing out otherwise undisclosed criminals and bringing them to justice, the political landscape here has been a disgrace for many years just as history records it, they have failed repeatedly to stamp out graft and abuse of power in political office, is there a chance that this new charter will be the one that forces the lot of them to abide by the rules and the law - who knows, the sooner it is implemented and elections are held the better, and hopefully the new elected government will carry on routing out the criminals and reforming the country for the betterment of all

O c'mon the yellows haven't disappeared they are in power now.
Dialogue means talking about everything openly, which is not happening now, because it's illegal.

You want to see the reality and history of Thailand through the "Bad Thaksin glasses"? Your choice, but there is much more to it.
Thaksin only became so popular because the upper class neglected the poor for decades.
What the poor want is to be taken seriously, to have rights and not to be treated like trash at the base of the pyramid, the problem with Thaksin is that he is a billionaire after all, and not really in for a real change in Thai society.

The base struggle is a struggle against feudalism but it will take time to change.