webfact Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Shortage of labour in Thailand likely to reach 300,000-600,000 in next 3-5 yearsBANGKOK, 29 April 2015 (NNT) - Labour shortage in the Thai industrial sector looms large in the next 3-5 years with as many as 300,000-600,000 workers in need, Labour Minister Gen Surasak Karnjanarat revealed on Tuesday.Speaking after a meeting of the government Committee on Labour Solutions, Gen Surasak said the meeting saw it necessary for the government to update the database of the National Labour Information Center (NLIC) for use in the planning of labour production among ministries involved such as Industry, Education and Industry.The meeting also emphasized the importance to improve labor skills and the production of workers. It suggested the use of technology in workplace and tax privileges to be offered to industrial entrepreneurs who provide internship for vocational students.The meeting acknowledged that it was necessary to recruit more foreign workers if domestic workforce was insufficient. The Board of Investment reported to the meeting Thailand would need more than 165,000 workers to fill in jobs in new factories in the next 3-5 years.At the meeting, the committee also discussed the necessity of improving the qualityof migrant workers in special economic zones in Thailand and those working in Thai factories in neighboring countries.The Labour Ministry would use results of the meeting in drafting an action plan involving both short- and long-term approaches during the next 3-5 years. The final draft of the plan will be considered again in the next meeting of the committee.-- NNT 2015-04-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Strangebrew Posted April 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2015 Guess slave labor will be booming soon. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 There could be a few fishermen coming free soon? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rametindallas Posted April 28, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2015 There's a terrible shortage of skilled craftsmen in Bangkok now at any price. A good friend is having a hard time converting his guest house into efficiency apartments because he can't find carpenters, plumbers, tile layers, etc. and he's offering double the old wages but he won't let the workers live on-site and he has had some who lied about their skill level so now he has to personally supervise all work. He's not a happy camper as he is losing money because of the down time from closing the guest house until he can begin leasing apartments; which he can't do until all work is completed. I wish the vocational schools could focus their student's attention on learning a trade instead of joining a school mob to attack other school mobs. I would like to see some retired Farangs allowed to informally teach some of the building trades. It would certainly benefit the country and the Farang would benefit from having skilled workers available. I want to build a house and am willing to train my workforce but it is not allowed. Education, of all types, is the major impediment to improving lives in this country. You can only blame the 'Elite' so much for willful ignorance. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davehowden Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 "The meeting acknowledged that it was necessary to recruit more foreign workers if domestic workforce was insufficient." Jeez, these guys are worth every penny of their salary! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RubbaJohnny Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 Or Plan B increase productivity,I see a lot of shops with 3 assistants filing their nails,yet a simple purchase can take forever while they check price and change 3 times I realize they may be on commission only and have to make up any losses but there and in many government offices I see plenty of folks who could exert themselves a tad more without exhaustion. Oddly in a nation that needs to improve language skills it is illegal for many native speakers to give even voluntary lessons and they cannot be employed at age 60 when at the peak of experience 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sydebolle Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 You can easily add a Zero to the numbers; we're closing down our operations and shall never ever do any business here in Thailand again which requires labour. Possibly the most overpriced arrogant ignorant labour force I ever came across. Hardly anybody resigns normally but just walks off the job and if they don't steal something worth six digits it is obsolete to file anything with the authorities. The chicken come home to roost; lets see how the Thais are in, say 10 or 15 years. Yet, as mentioned, not they are to blame but the system is a total failure. Some 30 years ago, when I came first, I was talking to the parents of today's employees. They knew likewise little to nothing but were willing to listen and to learn. Over a generation that went down the toilet again. Pathetic! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkpanther99 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 This is a big problem for Thailand, especially given that there could be scores of workers from neighboring countries more than willing to fill that labour shortage when the ASEAN AEC effect next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaddeus Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 You can easily add a Zero to the numbers; we're closing down our operations and shall never ever do any business here in Thailand again which requires labour. Possibly the most overpriced arrogant ignorant labour force I ever came across. Hardly anybody resigns normally but just walks off the job and if they don't steal something worth six digits it is obsolete to file anything with the authorities. The chicken come home to roost; lets see how the Thais are in, say 10 or 15 years. Yet, as mentioned, not they are to blame but the system is a total failure. Some 30 years ago, when I came first, I was talking to the parents of today's employees. They knew likewise little to nothing but were willing to listen and to learn. Over a generation that went down the toilet again. Pathetic! But the hammock sellers are happy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post casualbiker Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 I don't think there is a shortage of labour as such.. I think there is a shortage of Thai people willing to do a full days work... Most are half a job.. The technical school's are a bit of a joke.. It's what happens when you insist on a bachelor's degree for even the simplest jobs.. People wasting time at university rather than getting solid work experience. And an erosion in wanting to work in the trades (because they aren't really considered trades here) 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 You can easily add a Zero to the numbers; we're closing down our operations and shall never ever do any business here in Thailand again which requires labour. Possibly the most overpriced arrogant ignorant labour force I ever came across. Hardly anybody resigns normally but just walks off the job and if they don't steal something worth six digits it is obsolete to file anything with the authorities. The chicken come home to roost; lets see how the Thais are in, say 10 or 15 years. Yet, as mentioned, not they are to blame but the system is a total failure. Some 30 years ago, when I came first, I was talking to the parents of today's employees. They knew likewise little to nothing but were willing to listen and to learn. Over a generation that went down the toilet again. Pathetic! I fear you are right, although not an employer trying to find labourers and craftsmen has proved difficult for us. This is leading to some huge rises in employment costs and these 2 factors look like they will make other ASEAN countries more attractive. Certain industries that have Thailand as their main base like the manufacture of hard disks are in decline and the move to reduce the openness of alcohol and sex based businesses may all delay the employment crisis as the workers take new positions but in time, not that long a time, there will be a shortfall. I do not see this having any positive effect on obtaining a farang work permit as the facts will be masked by fear and propaganda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyumiii Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Or Plan B increase productivity,I see a lot of shops with 3 assistants filing their nails,yet a simple purchase can take forever while they check price and change 3 times I realize they may be on commission only and have to make up any losses but there and in many government offices I see plenty of folks who could exert themselves a tad more without exhaustion. Oddly in a nation that needs to improve language skills it is illegal for many native speakers to give even voluntary lessons and they cannot be employed at age 60 when at the peak of experience Sorry, Not so. I am 62 and still doing it. My age is not an issue. Retirement age is 60 for Thai teachers, But not for foreigners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post willyumiii Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 Maybe it is time to do away with all of the ridiculous restriction about what jobs foreigners can not do in Thailand? You think? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimHuaHin Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Or Plan B increase productivity,I see a lot of shops with 3 assistants filing their nails,yet a simple purchase can take forever while they check price and change 3 times I realize they may be on commission only and have to make up any losses but there and in many government offices I see plenty of folks who could exert themselves a tad more without exhaustion. Oddly in a nation that needs to improve language skills it is illegal for many native speakers to give even voluntary lessons and they cannot be employed at age 60 when at the peak of experience Totally agree. Thailand wants to be a developed economy and a member of the global developed community .... but Thai attitudes and behaviour ... is it Thainess? ... are at odds with modern economic and business practice. Message to Thailand ... get with the times ... move into at least late 20th Century business and economic practices ... or ... perish on the global scale. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thailand has plenty of workers, they are just employed in the wrong labour-intensive industry producing a low value crop. "Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Rice Farmers" with apologies to Willy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post trogers Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) Thailand has plenty of workers, they are just employed in the wrong labour-intensive industry producing a low value crop. "Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Rice Farmers" with apologies to Willy Here is the latest - children of rice farmers are no longer helping to farm rice, nor are they keen learners in schools either.They spend most of their time online, gaming or boozing, and teens are becoming parents... Edited April 29, 2015 by trogers 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruceybonus Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Or Plan B increase productivity,I see a lot of shops with 3 assistants filing their nails,yet a simple purchase can take forever while they check price and change 3 times I realize they may be on commission only and have to make up any losses but there and in many government offices I see plenty of folks who could exert themselves a tad more without exhaustion. Oddly in a nation that needs to improve language skills it is illegal for many native speakers to give even voluntary lessons and they cannot be employed at age 60 when at the peak of experience Filing nails? More like monging on their phones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffinator Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 This might now be the case if .... A) The EU imposes a ban on the fishing industry ... that would release up a few workers. Ops, sorry just realised they are not Thai workers but rather people who have been trafficked and enslaved. The baht continues to rise which pushes out foreign investment. You'll see the likes of Toyota, Honda etc along with electronics manufacturers heading across the border ... that will certainly put a lot of people in the market for a job. The meeting acknowledged that it was necessary to recruit more foreign workers if domestic workforce was insufficient. Foreigners meaning Burmese, Loas and Cambodians. Eventually these people will also come to a point where their treatment here is no longer accepted or needed if major manufacturers open up in their home countries. The Thai superiority stance is going to come back and bite them in the backside and it's coming real soon. This country reminds me of a fabled ship where the owners claimed it was unsinkable .... funny name ... Titanic .... THAITANIC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 i totally concur about all this degree bullshit, its hands on knowledge, years ago in the uk i was made redundant, for a guy who had a degree in rubber technology (did'nt need it)). could he trouble shoot/put machines right NO. i was brought up from the shop floor.(injection/extrusion moulding) they shot themselves in the foot big time. wanted me to go back.. no bloody chance. i digress. yes a good thing but they just can't or will not see it, there are loads of untapped expert resources, to be given free by ex pats, but they will never do this as it is the old lose face thing again, "we know it all, we don't want any help thankyou." a great shame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thailand has plenty of workers, they are just employed in the wrong labour-intensive industry producing a low value crop. "Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Rice Farmers" with apologies to Willy Here is the latest - children of rice farmers are no longer helping to farm rice, nor are they keen learners in schools either.They spend most of their time online, gaming or boozing, and teens are becoming parents... True words, the only ones I can find to work in my factory are all 30-45 year old and most of them are females, the young generation just want to play with their smartphones and are useless for an employer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post harrry Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 (edited) I know someone who is a qualified electronic tech. ...fair at his trade and a really nice guy. Has a little shop and makes about 200baht a day from little jobs. one or two a day at 50 to 100 baht, He also has a few acres which he farms himself. Well supervises anyway. He has a young daughter and his wife has died. I asked him to help me with a few little jobs and was giving him 500baht for a few hours work. First thing was to fit a couple of longer power cables to my monitors and also longer video leads. No problem till I gave him some money and asked him to go to the shop at the end of the street and buy them. (I am stuck at home)....Couldn't do that not his job to go and buy things but he would do a favour and go and get them after he picked his daughter up at 3pm and come back tommorrow. He is a good tradesman and a nice guy but the money he gets is sufficient for his needs and he does not have to think about working. People have to rethink a little as what he has is nowhere sufficient once his daughter gets older than 4 and he has major school costs but that is typical unfortunately. Edited April 29, 2015 by harrry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zac5000 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 There's a terrible shortage of skilled craftsmen in Bangkok now at any price. A good friend is having a hard time converting his guest house into efficiency apartments because he can't find carpenters, plumbers, tile layers, etc. and he's offering double the old wages but he won't let the workers live on-site and he has had some who lied about their skill level so now he has to personally supervise all work. He's not a happy camper as he is losing money because of the down time from closing the guest house until he can begin leasing apartments; which he can't do until all work is completed. I wish the vocational schools could focus their student's attention on learning a trade instead of joining a school mob to attack other school mobs. I would like to see some retired Farangs allowed to informally teach some of the building trades. It would certainly benefit the country and the Farang would benefit from having skilled workers available. I want to build a house and am willing to train my workforce but it is not allowed. Education, of all types, is the major impediment to improving lives in this country. You can only blame the 'Elite' so much for willful ignorance. You are so right! What are they afraid of ? they have a potentially willing and able source of absolutely invaluable knowledge available to tap into, and probably very cheaply where they could do some massive upskilling. The answer to many of the low incomes has to come from technology and some automation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 why are they NEVER ON TIME, my pet hate, they think nothing of arriving 30 minutes to an hour late, when i chastise them they think it is hilarious. no work ethics, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exbikey Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thailand has plenty of workers, they are just employed in the wrong labour-intensive industry producing a low value crop. "Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Rice Farmers" with apologies to Willy Apologies to Willy + Waylon and Ed Bruce for penning the song. Brings back some good memories with good friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPratt Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 When Railway projects start they will probably use "Agencies" to ship in foreign labour. Lots of people earn lots of Money dotting I's and crossing Ts to get them in. The workers earn very little Money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefanix Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 He is a good tradesman and a nice guy but the money he gets is sufficient for his needs and he does not have to think about working. Good point. There are simply different values in Thai culture. Even long term expats seem not to understand this. Farang value people only for being efficient and creating as much value as possible. A Thai's goal is to be happy. Now. No worries about the future, no long term planning. And that's probably what makes Thailand the "land of smiles". So don't complain! Relax and try to catch a bit of this happiness! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 No work ethic.....They know that if they quit they can replace there job in a matter of days if not hours. I dont know how many late twenties I have interviewed for posistions and there resumes are pages and pages thick....three months here, twp months here perhaps a week or two at orher places. They see that they have experience rather as I see it.....ten jobs in four years. I always ask. How many months would you like to work here?....blank stares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elgordo38 Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 Guess slave labor will be booming soon. Isn't it now? The only positive thing for workers is that they might get closer to a living wage. Unfortunately mother nature is not being consulted in all this so called prosperity. She has certain bounderies that we are close to crossing. Pollution, fresh water, food, garbage, sewage, traffic congestion none of this is being factored in. Also from what I have seen of infrastructure maintainence it is sadly lacking to support the kind of growth being planned. Aging infrastructure needs replacing. Somewhere sometime all this hodge podge growth will come to a standstill. China is almost there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post elgordo38 Posted April 29, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2015 Thailand has plenty of workers, they are just employed in the wrong labour-intensive industry producing a low value crop. "Mammas Don't Let Your Babies Grow Up to Be Rice Farmers" with apologies to Willy Here is the latest - children of rice farmers are no longer helping to farm rice, nor are they keen learners in schools either.They spend most of their time online, gaming or boozing, and teens are becoming parents... Teenagers in North America do not want to help out around the house anymore either. All these tech advances plus being children of a generation that knew how to work is spoiling them. Don't forget me in the will my children tell me. They are also busy doing the same sins that are outlined in the bottom line above. Could add a few other things like drugs. Hey this is the new world order or so they tell me get used to it. After the jobs are all gone to Robots and 3D printing it will only get worse. Baltimore will be an every day occurance but thankfully I will be pushing up daisies. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfly94 Posted April 29, 2015 Share Posted April 29, 2015 Yet there are all those prostitutes and their customers pretending they have to sell themselves as they cannot get a proper job, somebody is lying somewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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