Lite Beer Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Nepal army: All 8 bodies found at crashed US Marine chopperBy BINAJ GURUBACHARYAKATHMANDU, Nepal (AP) — The bodies of all eight people on board the U.S. Marine helicopter that disappeared this week during a relief mission in earthquake-hit Nepal have been recovered, Nepal's army said Saturday.The wreckage was found on Friday and the first three bodies retrieved the same day by Nepalese and U.S. military personnel from the crash site in the mountains northeast of capital Kathmandu. The Nepalese army said in a statement Saturday that the remaining five bodies were also recovered.The discovery of the wreckage followed days of intense search involving U.S. and Nepali aircraft and U.S. satellites. The aircraft, with six Marines and two Nepali soldiers on board, went missing while delivering aid on Tuesday.Lt. Gen. John Wissler, commander of the Marine-led joint task force, told reporters in Kathmandu on Friday that his team could not immediately identify the cause of the crash of the UH-1 "Huey" or identify the bodies found.He described the crash as "severe," and said the recovery team at the site encountered extreme weather and difficult terrain.The wreckage was located about 24 kilometers (15 miles) from the town of Charikot, near where the aircraft went missing while delivering humanitarian aid to villages hit by two deadly earthquakes.The area is near Gothali village in the district of Dolakha, about 80 kilometers (50 miles) northeast of Kathmandu.The U.S. relief mission was deployed soon after a magnitude-7.8 quake hit April 25, killing more than 8,200 people. It was followed by another magnitude-7.3 quake on Tuesday that killed 117 people and injured 2,800. -- (c) Associated Press 2015-05-16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catweazle Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 One of the few times were members of the US actually try to help instead of killing everything that moves, and they crash... RIP to the marines and the Nepali soldiers, condolences their families and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussieroaming Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Bummer to see people dying when they are giving humanitarian aid. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcrab Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) What is it with the US military and their helicopters? Everyone knocks the Thais for the state of their aircraft. Remember the Bin Laden assault.....two choppers full of the elite soldiers...and one crashes in the Bin Laden compound...?? We all make mistakes, but really, in such a high profile operation? RIP guys. Edited May 16, 2015 by Mudcrab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thongkorn Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) the good always go first. RIP to them One of Americas Choppers crashed at the Binladen compound, becasue they had practiced and practiced, but did not know that the wall had been high-tend by a few feet. Edited May 16, 2015 by Thongkorn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Credo Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 One of the few times were members of the US actually try to help instead of killing everything that moves, and they crash... RIP to the marines and the Nepali soldiers, condolences their families and friends. What a crass, inflammatory and untrue statement to make. The US Military is very often one of the first to arrive for giving humanitarian assistance. There is an entire section of the Department of State that is dedicated to assisting (Office of Foreign Disaster Administration) and they follow after the military. I don't know in what world you live, but in almost every country the only ones with the equipment to deal with disasters IS the military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredge45 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 RIP - Hauling 8 people arpound at that altitude wouldn't have let them have much of a payload of humanitarian cargo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 RIP - Hauling 8 people arpound at that altitude wouldn't have let them have much of a payload of humanitarian cargo... That Huey can carry a payload of 8,000 pounds/3,600 kg. I don't know how the density altitude affected it or even what it was, but the 8 lives lost causes great sadness and they were probably all on the chopper for good reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverSure Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 What is it with the US military and their helicopters? Everyone knocks the Thais for the state of their aircraft. Remember the Bin Laden assault.....two choppers full of the elite soldiers...and one crashes in the Bin Laden compound...?? We all make mistakes, but really, in such a high profile operation? RIP guys. Ignorant comment. It wasn't "state of their aircraft", the pilot crashed it because of faulty intelligence given. The US likely has so many choppers in the air at any one time it's probably amazing. There are thousands of US military choppers in service and one will go down once in a while. Now, how about some condolences for the friends, co workers and families? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunsakda Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) That chopper was an experimental stealth model. Even according to the official story, which is CLEARLY rubbish, it had a hard landing, mast bump, rotor strike, etc. and it had to be abandoned/blown up with no casualties due to the crash. Perhaps it was overloaded. Landing a helicopter is a visual manuever. Nothing possible to do with faulty intelligence to do with a wall being "high-tened". Edited May 19, 2015 by arunsakda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tywais Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 That chopper was an experimental stealth model. Even according to the official story, which is CLEARLY rubbish, it had a hard landing, mast bump, rotor strike, etc. and it had to be abandoned/blown up with no casualties due to the crash. Perhaps it was overloaded. Landing a helicopter is a visual manuever. Nothing possible to do with faulty intelligence to do with a wall being "high-tened". A little off topic but the comment regarding the wall height is indirectly correct. The supposition is that the crash was due to vortex ring state (VRS) and the height of the walls which was not in the intelligence report probably caused a VRS. Regarding 'visual manuever', that was a night flight with infrared their only eyes. AVWeb Aviation News source details. Condolences to those who died and their families in unselfishly delivering humanitarian assistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunsakda Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Of course it was equipped with some form of EVS. The pilot still can't land with his eyes closed, thus it is a visual maneuver. Whether the intelligence said the wall was X metres or Y metres the pilot is still responsible for making a safe approach. Faulty intelligence did not cause the aircraft to enter VRS, encounter a severe loss of lift at low altitude and resulting hard landing, the pilot did. Faulty intel may however be seen as part of the error chain which is present in all mishaps. This is elite commando stuff and "Sith Happens!" Obviously they had a backup plan. Bravo to them! Edited May 20, 2015 by arunsakda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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