A sensible look at diets/fads

[WitawatWatawit]

Just for your information.

Fad or fact: Fashionable diets get a reality check

A grain of truth, a small study and suddenly a new diet can be created, especially when a celebrity is involved.

Earlier this year, a book was released in the United States called Is Gwyneth Paltrow Wrong about Everything? When Celebrity Culture and Science Clash. It was written by Timothy Caulfield, a health-science expert looking at how celebrity culture has gone from influencing our clothes and entertainment choices to our diets and views on health.

In Australia, celebrities are putting their weight behind high-profile diets such as the paleo diet, the I Quit Sugar diet and other health and wellness regimes, but at what point does celebrity skew the science?

http://www.goodfood.com.au/good-food/food-news/fad-or-fact-fashionable-diets-get-a-reality-check-20150518-ggywif.html

[h90]

that article is as silly as the celebrities diets.....Well known that many celebrities take some chemical help to diet. And than tell some nonsense about diet.

they could have made a McDonalds+Coke diet and loose weight

[Craig krup]

When they actually pipe food straight into the stomach of people who think they are gluten intolerant only one in eight really are. Most of what's said is complete horse jobbies. Food and nutrition is serious science. The latest thing is "rice is just sugar". You can say to people, "Why when you're sick three hours after a meal do you spray rice if it's just sugar?", and "Why do cyclists use glucose drips and intralipid if rice is 'just sugar'?", and for some reason they feel entitled to 1) ignore what you've said, and 2) continue saying what they've said. You'd think, "Either confront what I've said, or change your position: it's one or the other".

For the record, rice is full of water and it takes an age for the digestive system to separate the carbohydrate from the water, but you'll never counter "Rice is just sugar" using reason. It's quite depressing. Lots of ordinary people waste money and damage their health because of idiots. It's like this stuff about "superfoods". As one dietitian said, "You never hear anyone saying that liver is a superfood, but if you had to pick one thing that might qualify liver would be it", or words to that effect.

[chubby]

Free The Gluttons! And dyslexics Untie !

Edited May 24, 2015 by chubby

[h90]

When they actually pipe food straight into the stomach of people who think they are gluten intolerant only one in eight really are. Most of what's said is complete horse jobbies. Food and nutrition is serious science. The latest thing is "rice is just sugar". You can say to people, "Why when you're sick three hours after a meal do you spray rice if it's just sugar?", and "Why do cyclists use glucose drips and intralipid if rice is 'just sugar'?", and for some reason they feel entitled to 1) ignore what you've said, and 2) continue saying what they've said. You'd think, "Either confront what I've said, or change your position: it's one or the other".

For the record, rice is full of water and it takes an age for the digestive system to separate the carbohydrate from the water, but you'll never counter "Rice is just sugar" using reason. It's quite depressing. Lots of ordinary people waste money and damage their health because of idiots. It's like this stuff about "superfoods". As one dietitian said, "You never hear anyone saying that liver is a superfood, but if you had to pick one thing that might qualify liver would be it", or words to that effect.

no as more water as easier it is to digest the carbohydrates.......with your argument coke would be very slow digested and uncooked rice very fast.

It needs some time to split the starch into sugar, but that works as faster as better it is hydrated.

I fail to understand that part with the cyclists....

And what is the damage of eating less white rice? Neither eating some rice, nor lack of it will cause any damage. Overeating is the problem...

[Craig krup]

For the record, rice is full of water and it takes an age for the digestive system to separate the carbohydrate from the water, but you'll never counter "Rice is just sugar" using reason. It's quite depressing. Lots of ordinary people waste money and damage their health because of idiots. It's like this stuff about "superfoods". As one dietitian said, "You never hear anyone saying that liver is a superfood, but if you had to pick one thing that might qualify liver would be it", or words to that effect.

no as more water as easier it is to digest the carbohydrates.......with your argument coke would be very slow digested and uncooked rice very fast.

It needs some time to split the starch into sugar, but that works as faster as better it is hydrated.

I fail to understand that part with the cyclists....

And what is the damage of eating less white rice? Neither eating some rice, nor lack of it will cause any damage. Overeating is the problem...

"...with your argument coke would be very slow digested and uncooked rice very fast.."

No - a sugar solution is right into your small intestine and the molecules are instantly available. "Soaking" the carbohydrate out of a lump of water with rice starch distributed through it is a long process: none of this is open to reasonable doubt.

I would have thought the point about cyclists was pretty obvious. They need a ton of rapid calories, so it it really was the case that rice was fast-to-digest near-glucose they'd eat a lot of it at the end of a six hour mountain stage, and with another one the next day. They don't because it isn't energy-dense enough and it takes too long to digest, which - to be clear - is why it's okay for normal mortals.

[h90]

For the record, rice is full of water and it takes an age for the digestive system to separate the carbohydrate from the water, but you'll never counter "Rice is just sugar" using reason. It's quite depressing. Lots of ordinary people waste money and damage their health because of idiots. It's like this stuff about "superfoods". As one dietitian said, "You never hear anyone saying that liver is a superfood, but if you had to pick one thing that might qualify liver would be it", or words to that effect.

no as more water as easier it is to digest the carbohydrates.......with your argument coke would be very slow digested and uncooked rice very fast.

It needs some time to split the starch into sugar, but that works as faster as better it is hydrated.

I fail to understand that part with the cyclists....

And what is the damage of eating less white rice? Neither eating some rice, nor lack of it will cause any damage. Overeating is the problem...

"...with your argument coke would be very slow digested and uncooked rice very fast.."

No - a sugar solution is right into your small intestine and the molecules are instantly available. "Soaking" the carbohydrate out of a lump of water with rice starch distributed through it is a long process: none of this is open to reasonable doubt.

I would have thought the point about cyclists was pretty obvious. They need a ton of rapid calories, so it it really was the case that rice was fast-to-digest near-glucose they'd eat a lot of it at the end of a six hour mountain stage, and with another one the next day. They don't because it isn't energy-dense enough and it takes too long to digest, which - to be clear - is why it's okay for normal mortals.

They eat tons of noodles, but you can't eat when you sleep so they are on the drip while sleeping. With your argument they would just drink tons of coke to get the sugar in the system.

It is the sleeping.....They anyway must be connected when sleeping and walked up at some time, else their circulation fails with the pimped up blood with too high viscosity. It is no real life example.

Sure you are right, even the white sugar isn't nearly as fast as sugar. It is nowhere close to sugar. But still it is junk unless you do lots of sport and need the fast carbs.