webfact Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Prayut indicates Thaksin could face lese majeste chargeBANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha indicated today that the former prime minster Thaksin Shinawatra could face lese majeste charge if he is found to have committed the offence. The prime minster was commenting on the revocation of two passports held by Thaksin by the Foreign Ministry following recommendation by the Royal Thai Police regarding his press interview with a South Korean media in Seoul last week.The Royal Thai Police said in its recommendation to revoke his passports was based on the interview which it deemed a threat to national security and damaged the country’s reputation and dignity.The Royal Thai Police said police are looking into details in his interview to file charge under Article 112, 326 and 328 of the Criminal Code, and the Computer 2007 Article 14 (3), (5).Article 112 states that “Whoever defames, insults or threatens the King, Queen, the Heir-apparent or the Regent, shall be punished (with) imprisonment of 3-15 years.The Defence Ministry, on order of Army chief Gen Udomdej Sitabutr, also deputy defence minister, has designated the Judge Advocate General’s Department to file lese majeste against Thaksin.Gen Prayut said Thursday the passport revocation and the charge under Article 112 was a procedure which authorities concerned are working on it after a complaint was filed.The complaint claims (the interview) accused others in an excessive manner, he said.He also said whether the former prime minister might have his police rank stripped or not depended on evidence and law, and when time dues.Meanwhile Royal Thai Police commissioner Pol Gen Somyot Phumphanmuang said investigators proposed to revoke Thaksin’s passports after they went through the interview and deemed it violated the said laws.He said the revocation has nothing to do with politics or he has any bias.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/prayut-indicates-thaksin-could-face-lese-majeste-charge -- Thai PBS 2015-05-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peptidebomber Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Didn't think the privy council was covered under 112, but these guys make it up as they go, so no surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sorry Mr P, but most foreigners here have seen the interview, and nowhere in the interview does Mr T cross the line. He implicates the elite in being behind the coup to maintain status quo, and not even the most yellow shirted supporter of the present situation can deny that!! By all means, go for Mr T, he should be behind bars, but play it clean!! Using the Thailands draconian LM laws doesn't make you any friends, here or abroad!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Probably clutching at straws but as its a law which doesn't allow suspects or convicts to be bailed i frankly think its use here is justifiable considering just how dirty thaksin's hands are. If they get the charges to stick he'll never come back. Sure hope they do stick now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 >>He said the revocation has nothing to do with politics or he has any bias.<< Quote So he has a sense of humor after all, our dear Mr P.................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) . this law is viewed by much of the west as infringing /challenging individuals freedom of speech and charging him with this will/ could just strengthen thaksins hand in gaining international 'sympathy.' ie down trodden democratic leader in exile ect ect more good pr for him to build upon. Edited May 28, 2015 by rijit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Probably clutching at straws but as its a law which doesn't allow suspects or convicts to be bailed i frankly think its use here is justifiable considering just how dirty thaksin's hands are. If they get the charges to stick he'll never come back. Sure hope they do stick now... What are you so afraid of. Let him come back. Now that all the corruption has been exposed. Let him fight an election. Let the people decide. Or this will never end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinBoy2 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 LM is the political gag of choice. Problem is, it doesn't work so well if the offending person is outside the country. Baffling as it is for the elites their huffing and puffing sorta ends up getting the offender more airtime, more newspaper coverage, generally more exposure. Dammm that pesky internet, why cant we return to a simpler age when what we said was gospel truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckape Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 These LM charges seem to be the first refuge of scoundrels. Followed closely by defamation charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesetat2013 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Probably clutching at straws but as its a law which doesn't allow suspects or convicts to be bailed i frankly think its use here is justifiable considering just how dirty thaksin's hands are. If they get the charges to stick he'll never come back. Sure hope they do stick now... What are you so afraid of. Let him come back. Now that all the corruption has been exposed. Let him fight an election. Let the people decide. Or this will never end. Are you living in fantasy land? How do you come out to say that ALL corruption has been exposed? Very little has been learned so far compared to the depths with which this country uses corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dominique355 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 So let me get that straight: To claim someone is supporting the military coup is an insult? Is it an insult because the coup is actually a crime (high treason) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thaksin has four LM charges against him already. So what if the General adds a fifth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Sign of desperation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 There is not, cannot be, will never come, any chance to start, let stand achieve, 'reconciliation' negotiations in this country as long as the Shins' tribe will be around, not just in politics, simply in Thailand: they just want to own it as their fiefdom for their own profit, that and only that, more prone to destroy it totally when they can't get what they want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 >>He said the revocation has nothing to do with politics or he has any bias.<< Quote So he has a sense of humor after all, our dear Mr P.................. Ah, you don't understand common sense, decency, rule of Law, and other basic things, so, why would we let you be the judge of someones sense of humor? Do you mean TS should have got his passports back and still have them? A very special sense of humor you have in my opinion...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thaksin has four LM charges against him already. So what if the General adds a fifth?Didnt know that, in that case makes no diference baring it gives him fresh international press coverage, which i'm sure Ostend his pr bod will relish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korkenzieher Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Maybe the general would consider dealing with some proper crime. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/828830-british-tourist-reportedly-raped-in-kanchanaburi/?utm_source=newsletter-20150529-0653&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news Just a thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Thaksin has four LM charges against him already. So what if the General adds a fifth? It just goes on the list of those that he's unlikely to answer anytime soon as he won't be giving himself up voluntarily, extradition is not on unless the junta really want such a figurehead here and even if they try to bring him back many countries probably won't be interested in LM charges. The PM is exercising his ' I'm in charge routine ' and little else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PREM-R Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Probably clutching at straws but as its a law which doesn't allow suspects or convicts to be bailed i frankly think its use here is justifiable considering just how dirty thaksin's hands are. If they get the charges to stick he'll never come back. Sure hope they do stick now... "its a law which doesn't allow suspects or convicts to be bailed...." Yellow shirt leader Sondhi Limthongkul was sentenced to two years jail in October 2013 for 'insulting the monarchy' (LM), he was immediately released on bail of 500,000 baht. The Nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FangFerang Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 "He said the revocation has nothing to do with politics or he has any bias." Blatantly fabricated and poorly executed lie number 45,821.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryBird Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Just say Thaksin, kind of like the Bush Administration said "WMD", and everyone just jumps on board. If it wasn't Thaksin, it would be someone else.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dageurreotype Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 When is Prayuth going to drop his obsession with routing the PTP and get on with tackling the many many problems facing this country? All this is really showing up the real reason for this power seizure. If anyone were still in any doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathias67 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Didn't think the privy council was covered under 112, but these guys make it up as they go, so no surprise. They can't get him to court on the charges he is already facing so how are they going to get him to answer these charges. All hot air on the part of the Thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halloween Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 When is Prayuth going to drop his obsession with routing the PTP and get on with tackling the many many problems facing this country? All this is really showing up the real reason for this power seizure. If anyone were still in any doubt. When are you going to wake up to the fact that PTP are a pack of criminals taking payment from another criminal to vote to his orders, and that is the major problem facing this country? You get rid of the leeches before you start the transfusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILT Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 (edited) When is Prayuth going to drop his obsession with routing the PTP and get on with tackling the many many problems facing this country? All this is really showing up the real reason for this power seizure. If anyone were still in any doubt. The many problems in this country were created by the PTP TRT or whatever they want to be called... it's all the same. As Thaskin is a cold face liar he cannot seem to keep all his lies (like most liars) in order. Dealing with these self serving scoundrels is and should be the first order of business. I would hardly consider it obsessive. Thaskin took a poke and the General poked back...The obsession I see is the shin a whats? mongering for power and control. Edited May 29, 2015 by MILT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Sorry Mr P, but most foreigners here have seen the interview, and nowhere in the interview does Mr T cross the line. He implicates the elite in being behind the coup to maintain status quo, and not even the most yellow shirted supporter of the present situation can deny that!! By all means, go for Mr T, he should be behind bars, but play it clean!! Using the Thailands draconian LM laws doesn't make you any friends, here or abroad!! Elite? Thaksin, CP, the beer families, the bank families behind the coup??? maintain status quo??? No it was the middle class and they did it to change the status quo. In one speech he spoke about some other support than the elites and this is illegal in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Praematura Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Name on person that's ever been extradited for breaking LM law. Maybe T should avoid China to be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Thailand certainly has some "unique" laws. The judicial system and laws really need sorting out. Ironic though that a man who used to sue for defamation and use laws to intimidate any who spoke out against him or his government is now on the receiving end of some. Wonder if the cartoonist who Yingluck sued and set Tarit on is laughing? Perhaps time for some new cartoons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOC Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Sorry Mr P, but most foreigners here have seen the interview, and nowhere in the interview does Mr T cross the line. He implicates the elite in being behind the coup to maintain status quo, and not even the most yellow shirted supporter of the present situation can deny that!! By all means, go for Mr T, he should be behind bars, but play it clean!! Using the Thailands draconian LM laws doesn't make you any friends, here or abroad!! Elite? Thaksin, CP, the beer families, the bank families behind the coup??? maintain status quo??? No it was the middle class and they did it to change the status quo. In one speech he spoke about some other support than the elites and this is illegal in Thailand. You are missing the point!! The institution don't need any special law to protect them, they are respected and loved by the people. The LM is merely a political tool, used by politicians to serve their personal and political agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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