Any BKK Teachers Want a Volunteer Teacher Assistant?

[bigt3116]

" As I originally posted, I TAUGHT HERE in Thailand for a number of months" - legally ?

What is your current visa status ?

[bigt3116]

"Just to be clear, even if you pay to volunteer in Thailand - you still need a work permit, there is no loophole."

No actually you don't, go to any labor lawyer and ask them. I know of several rescue centers that have volunteers pay to help out and they have ISO number. There is no way they are getting an ISO if there is something shady in their business model.

You are paying for an experience and are not classified as a worker. You are in a sense a student.

It is a billion dollar industry here and there is no way that the government is going to interfere. Because the language is so vague in the labor act washing your friend's car could be construed as work and be illegal but in fact it isn't.

The law is vague on purpose. You are the same type that tell me that I cannot do the repairs on my own house because it is work.

Are you ever going to reply with your "proof" that if you pay to volunteer, you don't need a work permit ?

Probably not, because you were talking crap. STOP posting incorrect info !!!

[zeichen]

"Probably not, because you were talking crap. STOP posting incorrect info !!!"

What are you a 5 year old school yard bully.

You do realize the language is vague and is up to the interpretation of the officer at hand right?

Why weren't the 1000's of volunteers for Tsunami clean up and rebuilding arrested? There are provisos for people helping other people without the need of a work permit and B visa.

If the OP wants to go in a classroom with a friend and observe and help out, he definitely isn't breaking any law. If he was going to take a position teaching at a school for a set period of time, then yes.

You didn't answer my question but I am not going to call you names for it. Do you think it is illegal as a foreigner to build, repair your wife's home?

No, I will not go and search and find things to further this asinine debate.

You are right and will never be convinced otherwise while the rest of the world will just live our lives just fine.

Please show me one link of anyone in the history of this country getting arrested for helping someone ie. Volunteering without a work permit.

The elephant camps literally have 1000's of volunteers a year, if it really was an issue wouldn't they get closed down?

[casualbiker]

"Probably not, because you were talking crap. STOP posting incorrect info !!!"

What are you a 5 year old school yard bully.

You do realize the language is vague and is up to the interpretation of the officer at hand right?

Why weren't the 1000's of volunteers for Tsunami clean up and rebuilding arrested? There are provisos for people helping other people without the need of a work permit and B visa.

If the OP wants to go in a classroom with a friend and observe and help out, he definitely isn't breaking any law. If he was going to take a position teaching at a school for a set period of time, then yes.

You didn't answer my question but I am not going to call you names for it. Do you think it is illegal as a foreigner to build, repair your wife's home?

No, I will not go and search and find things to further this asinine debate.

You are right and will never be convinced otherwise while the rest of the world will just live our lives just fine.

Please show me one link of anyone in the history of this country getting arrested for helping someone ie. Volunteering without a work permit.

The elephant camps literally have 1000's of volunteers a year, if it really was an issue wouldn't they get closed down?

On the Tsunami I remember reading reports that some were arrested.. It is an extremely vague law.. And sometimes organisations pay for the vagueness to go their way! Simple as that!

This from Ajarn forum

" From today's news:

More than 1,000 foreign volunteers from about 25 countries helping tsunami survivors rebuild shattered lives were outraged yesterday to hear they face legal action by the Labour Ministry unless they have a work permit." Linked from Bkk post so I can't post the link.

[bangmai]

That's true about the Tsunami volunteers. People tend to bend the rules, both farang and Thai. Give them an inch; they take a mile. Of course, many looked at it as a carte blanche to stay indefinitely. If all you had to do to "long-stay" was volunteer a few hours per week to "long-stay" you would have half of the world's trashpackers here, many without five hundred Baht int he bank. The elephant camp volunteers are in somewhat of a different category...more like the "pay to volunteer" category, where palms are greased. It's a lucrative business. The job market in the Financial sector has gotten so competitive, that uni students' parents are paying for them to do Summer internships. This is for Ivy Leaguers, no less.

Instead of the usual TVF objection without alternative attitude; let me offer this suggestion to the OP. Visit some school front offices, tell them you want to "observe." You will probably know within a few minutes if you are welcome. That way you don't run the risk of spending your entire time with a "bad teacher," of which there are many. Keep in mind, the front office would have to approve of your arrangement anyway. Do you really think they want to explain to even one parent, who that "strange man/lady" is, in their child's classroom. There are huge liability issues, just like there would be in the US. If you take my suggestion, you will be laying the groundwork for future employment by establishing contacts at the schools. A month of time is a small price to pay to find a great place to work, which can be completely different than affluence, test scores, or location. You would also minimize your exposure to Immigration, and would likely be doing something completely legal, as opposed to grey area (at best). Print some resumes, and copies of credentials like diploma(s), certificate(s), and police clearance(s). If I were a principal, and you showed me those items, I would at the very worst send you to some classrooms just to give some marginal teachers a wake up call. Best case, I would let some of my best teachers help decide if you had what it took to teach at my school.