Suvarnabhumi Airport says ex-cop arrested in Japan didn't bring gun from Thailand

[Jay Sata]

"Kamronwit's arrest raised concerns among Thai officials that Suvarnabhumi Airport staff may have failed to spot the firearm in Kamronwit's belongings, or provided him with VIP treatment.

Sirote Duangrat, the airports director, dismissed the speculation in a press conference today."

Is this Airport Director a retard, inbred or just plain stupid ... ? Why dont he just admit that his staff overlooked the loaded gun instead of getting in to all these lies and nonsens stories like "they had 6 months training" - more likely 6 minutes ...

We still didnt hear anyone take any kind of responsibility for this idiotic misery ... not the useless RTP nor Swampy admits anything

I really hope ICAO have their eyes on this case as the safety in Swampy is like stealing candy from a baby - We wait for the punishment, better sooner than later

Once Again RTP has disgraced Thailand ...

Ahhh, the ICAO. You bring up a good point. I'll bet they'll be very interested in how Khun Sirote accepts responsibility and puts serious changes into effect.... or not. Khun Sirote did not do himself any favors by destroying his credibility and the ICAO will not be so quick to take him at his word for anything. "Proof, sir, we need proof". LoL

Once Again RTP has disgraced Thailand

Does this mean they can strip retired Pol. Gen. Kamronwit of his rank?

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Well he won't be wearing all his uniform and badges plus Thaksins medal where he is at the moment.

More like police station cell garb. No shoes,belts etc and all alone with four walls and a stainless steel toilet pan.

The message that he is facing problems must have sunk in by now. Not even the son from Bangkok allowed to see him.

[rametindallas]

"Kamronwit's arrest raised concerns among Thai officials that Suvarnabhumi Airport staff may have failed to spot the firearm in Kamronwit's belongings, or provided him with VIP treatment.

Sirote Duangrat, the airports director, dismissed the speculation in a press conference today."

Is this Airport Director a retard, inbred or just plain stupid ... ? Why dont he just admit that his staff overlooked the loaded gun instead of getting in to all these lies and nonsens stories like "they had 6 months training" - more likely 6 minutes ...

We still didnt hear anyone take any kind of responsibility for this idiotic misery ... not the useless RTP nor Swampy admits anything

I really hope ICAO have their eyes on this case as the safety in Swampy is like stealing candy from a baby - We wait for the punishment, better sooner than later

Once Again RTP has disgraced Thailand ...

Ahhh, the ICAO. You bring up a good point. I'll bet they'll be very interested in how Khun Sirote accepts responsibility and puts serious changes into effect.... or not. Khun Sirote did not do himself any favors by destroying his credibility and the ICAO will not be so quick to take him at his word for anything. "Proof, sir, we need proof". LoL

Once Again RTP has disgraced Thailand

Does this mean they can strip retired Pol. Gen. Kamronwit of his rank?

.

Well he won't be wearing all his uniform and badges plus Thaksins medal where he is at the moment.

More like police station cell garb. No shoes,belts etc and all alone with four walls and a stainless steel toilet pan.

The message that he is facing problems must have sunk in by now. Not even the son from Bangkok allowed to see him.

"Hoist on his own petard" W. Shakespeare Act III, Scene IV of Hamlet

Once he discovered that he had 'accidentally' brought the gun into Japan, he seems to have thought he could just take it back home (in his carry-on bag no less) and the Japanese authorities would be happy to see the gun leave Japan. Putting it back in his checked luggage would, at least, give him some chance of avoiding detection but bringing a loaded gun, of any caliber, into the cabin of a passenger plane (unless you are an Air Marshall) is an ultimate no-no. A wise man, realizing his mistake upon arrival in Japan, would throw the gun away where it would never be found. How much is that gun worth, even sentimentally, that he would risk arrest for it? He should spend some time in jail for being terminally stupid. I think his name is going on a world-wide watch list and every time he travels outside of Thailand he will face extra security checks. A conviction may get him banned from some countries.

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[Jay Sata]

Let me ask you all another question.

If you were a scanner operative at Bangkok airport earning 300 baht a day and you saw a gun in the luggage of a Thai VIP ex head of Bangkok police what would you do.

A.Raise the matter and risk his wrath plus lose your job?

B. Pretend you did not see it?

Edited June 26, 2015 by Jay Sata

[Oziex1]

You have to wonder what is going through his head right now as 12 hours of negotiation hasn't got him released his son is not allowed to see him, have under the table methods been tried and failed.

After all this what plan could a former senior thai official fall back on. I bet he hasn't a clue what to do and facing the music must be the most alien concept.

[Jay Sata]

He has been locked up for five days unable to speak Japanese and no doubt the guy in the lock up is not fluent in Thai.

He will be in some sort of jail suit and unable to talk to anyone apart from his Japanese lawyer.

Similar to a farang locked up in Bangkok.

Som nam nah

[dundee48]

This guy is being needlessly persecuted. Sure he broke the law, but it's a stupid law. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun and the only way to make air travel truly safe is for planes to cease being gun free zones. What goes for national parks, schools and churches goes for planes too. Anyway, it's a man's right to defend himself and to defend himself with a gun if need be. This episode shows that bad guys could get on a plane with a gun, so it's best to be armed. If you make it illegal to have guns on plane then all you've accomplished is to make the law abiding unarmed in face of criminals with guns - something this case shows, since the guy had a gun and, so, is a criminal with a gun on a plane.

Allan d. Cors,is that you?

[Nemesis7]

It's scary situation

[Jay Sata]

The so called cover up continues but google is their enemy.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, an official said the investigation found that Camronwit put the medicine bag in the carry-on luggage for a flight out of Bangkok on June 18.

The official said Thai police ( high up friends) had submitted the gun to Japan's Scientific Crime Detection Unit to determine its power and whether it was legally registered.

I don't think the Japanese rate a gun on power in deciding if it was illegal.

As for registration....fine in Thailand...not OK in Japan.

I can imagine a Dutch guy trying to convince Bangkok police he bought his ganja legally in Holland and has a receipt to prove it

Edited June 26, 2015 by Jay Sata

[MyFriend You]

I would guess it was in his checked bag irregardless of what he claimed. I flew from the West Coast USA to Thailand sayed a week, then to Vietnam with two Combat Machete's in my checked bags and nary a sideways glance.

[Jay Sata]

I would guess it was in his checked bag irregardless of what he claimed. I flew from the West Coast USA to Thailand sayed a week, then to Vietnam with two Combat Machete's in my checked bags and nary a sideways glance.

That's fine until you are caught and locked up as this idiot found out.

Asian police stations and prisons are not like the USA.

[spidermike007]

He acquired the gun mid flight from a flight attendant, who then climbed into the baggage hold, to insert the gun into this superfreak cops luggage. The flight attendant had no idea the gun was registered in Thailand. Total coincidence.

[captspectre]

JAPAN

Suvarnabhumi official says Camronwit's gun was not detected

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- THE security system at Suvarnabhumi Airport did not detect a handgun belonging to retired city police chief Lt General Camronwit Toopkrajank when he left the airport for Japan on June 18.

Camronwit is in detention in Japan after a gun was found in a bag he carried as he was about to leave Tokyo for Bangkok on Monday.

Suvarnabhumi Airport deputy director Phet Chan-charoen said both passenger and luggage have to pass security screening at the airport before leaving the country.

"A passenger [would] walk through an x-ray machine while luggage [would] go through a bomb detector, or CTX, which would focus the screening on explosives only," he said in a press conference.

Asked if the CTX machine could detect a gun, Phet said it would identify it only as a metal object which would not pose danger to the plane, he said.

Earlier it was suspected that Camronwit may have bought the gun in Japan. However, Thai police spokesman Pol Gen Prawut Thawornsiri told reporters that Camronwit had the gun from long before he retired. His son is now in Japan to show a registration document to Japanese police.

Observers said this showed Camronwit brought the gun in question with him from Bangkok - only to be detected in Japan. Security systems of the Airports of Thailand that oversee Suvarnabhumi Airport have been criticised for not being adequate enough to detect the gun.

However, Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

Meanwhile, Public Affairs Division director Pol Maj General Apichart Suribunya said Japan's public prosecutors might spend a few more days before concluding Camronwit's case.

It is believed that Japan uses the same procedure as Thailand's in investigating such cases, so more time is required.

Apichart said he had learned that Japanese police had handed Camronwit to public prosecutors on Wednesday. His division has contacted their Japanese counterparts and asked for updates on the case. But the procedure would take time, as it was not easy to translate from Japanese to English.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Suvarnabhumi-official-says-Camronwits-gun-was-not--30263148.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-26

no doubt that the thai security people people are doing their job. BUT they probably did defer to the "genera;"! what thai in his right mind would question a general! not if he expected to keep his job.

[captspectre]

This guy is being needlessly persecuted. Sure he broke the law, but it's a stupid law. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun and the only way to make air travel truly safe is for planes to cease being gun free zones. What goes for national parks, schools and churches goes for planes too. Anyway, it's a man's right to defend himself and to defend himself with a gun if need be. This episode shows that bad guys could get on a plane with a gun, so it's best to be armed. If you make it illegal to have guns on plane then all you've accomplished is to make the law abiding unarmed in face of criminals with guns - something this case shows, since the guy had a gun and, so, is a criminal with a gun on a plane.

Allan d. Cors,is that you?

are you serious? do you really belive that crap? here it comes thai visa censor! here it comes! if you belive that garbage your are an IDIOT!

[lvr181]

This guy is being needlessly persecuted. Sure he broke the law, but it's a stupid law. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun and the only way to make air travel truly safe is for planes to cease being gun free zones. What goes for national parks, schools and churches goes for planes too. Anyway, it's a man's right to defend himself and to defend himself with a gun if need be. This episode shows that bad guys could get on a plane with a gun, so it's best to be armed. If you make it illegal to have guns on plane then all you've accomplished is to make the law abiding unarmed in face of criminals with guns - something this case shows, since the guy had a gun and, so, is a criminal with a gun on a plane.

Allan d. Cors,is that you?

are you serious? do you really belive that crap? here it comes thai visa censor! here it comes! if you belive that garbage your are an IDIOT!

Neurath is from the USA?

[Neurath]

This guy is being needlessly persecuted. Sure he broke the law, but it's a stupid law. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun and the only way to make air travel truly safe is for planes to cease being gun free zones. What goes for national parks, schools and churches goes for planes too. Anyway, it's a man's right to defend himself and to defend himself with a gun if need be. This episode shows that bad guys could get on a plane with a gun, so it's best to be armed. If you make it illegal to have guns on plane then all you've accomplished is to make the law abiding unarmed in face of criminals with guns - something this case shows, since the guy had a gun and, so, is a criminal with a gun on a plane.

Allan d. Cors,is that you?

are you serious? do you really belive that crap? here it comes thai visa censor! here it comes! if you belive that garbage your are an IDIOT!

Neurath is from the USA?

I'm currently lobbying NASA - Astronauts on the International Space Station should be armed also. What if an Astronaut (well, it'd probably be a Cosmonaut really) went bonkers or smuggled or gun on-board? The best way to stop a bad astronaut with a gun is with a good astronaut with a gun. Not to mention the possibility of Aliens. I've seen alien and I wouldn't want to get caught unprepared.

[lvr181]

are you serious? do you really belive that crap? here it comes thai visa censor! here it comes! if you belive that garbage your are an IDIOT!

Neurath is from the USA?

I'm currently lobbying NASA - Astronauts on the International Space Station should be armed also. What if an Astronaut (well, it'd probably be a Cosmonaut really) went bonkers or smuggled or gun on-board? The best way to stop a bad astronaut with a gun is with a good astronaut with a gun. Not to mention the possibility of Aliens. I've seen alien and I wouldn't want to get caught unprepared.

Okay okay. I guess you were only joking after all. Some of us were concerned you were for real. Good to see you have allayed our fears of idiotic comments.

Edit: Grammar only

Edited June 27, 2015 by lvr181

[halloween]

I'm currently lobbying NASA - Astronauts on the International Space Station should be armed also. What if an Astronaut (well, it'd probably be a Cosmonaut really) went bonkers or smuggled or gun on-board? The best way to stop a bad astronaut with a gun is with a good astronaut with a gun. Not to mention the possibility of Aliens. I've seen alien and I wouldn't want to get caught unprepared.

We really do need a 'sarcasm' button. Sometimes its just too hard to tell.

[Neurath]

I'm currently lobbying NASA - Astronauts on the International Space Station should be armed also. What if an Astronaut (well, it'd probably be a Cosmonaut really) went bonkers or smuggled or gun on-board? The best way to stop a bad astronaut with a gun is with a good astronaut with a gun. Not to mention the possibility of Aliens. I've seen alien and I wouldn't want to get caught unprepared.

We really do need a 'sarcasm' button. Sometimes its just too hard to tell.

And a parody button - it will sit next to the sarcasm button Mind you, the only thing that makes what I said a parody is that it came from me and not Alan D Cors - he really could have (should have) said it in earnest. Unless of course Alan has entered into the realm of self-parody - an entirely plausible supposition. But then that's just me talking - a Liberal, Fabian Socialist, Cultural Marxist-Keynesian wrecker bent on destroying all that is good and all that is left of our self-reliance whilst hobbling minority communities with welfare all the better to make them vote for me in my diabolical plans to feminize our manhood and weaken our defenses against Islamic Fascism. It's not easy but someone has to do it. Did I mention Bengazi?

[Nice Boyd]

I personally don't think it went through Scanner, I think it went through Airport Employee.Just a Hunch, I didn't read all Comments First, though

[Nice Boyd]

This guy is being needlessly persecuted. Sure he broke the law, but it's a stupid law. The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun and the only way to make air travel truly safe is for planes to cease being gun free zones. What goes for national parks, schools and churches goes for planes too. Anyway, it's a man's right to defend himself and to defend himself with a gun if need be. This episode shows that bad guys could get on a plane with a gun, so it's best to be armed. If you make it illegal to have guns on plane then all you've accomplished is to make the law abiding unarmed in face of criminals with guns - something this case shows, since the guy had a gun and, so, is a criminal with a gun on a plane.

Allan d. Cors,is that you?

are you serious? do you really belive that crap? here it comes thai visa censor! here it comes! if you belive that garbage your are an IDIOT!

Gun Fight at OK Corral Airlines

[casualbiker]

Let me ask you all another question.

If you were a scanner operative at Bangkok airport earning 300 baht a day and you saw a gun in the luggage of a Thai VIP ex head of Bangkok police what would you do.

A.Raise the matter and risk his wrath plus lose your job?

B. Pretend you did not see it?

Let me ask you a question.

Do you honestly believe that the airport staff manning the detection machines are daily paid unskilled workers?

[Soutpeel]

Let me ask you all another question.

If you were a scanner operative at Bangkok airport earning 300 baht a day and you saw a gun in the luggage of a Thai VIP ex head of Bangkok police what would you do.

A.Raise the matter and risk his wrath plus lose your job?

B. Pretend you did not see it?

Let me ask you a question.

Do you honestly believe that the airport staff manning the detection machines are daily paid unskilled workers?

See we need that sarcasm button again....

[casualbiker]

Let me ask you all another question.

If you were a scanner operative at Bangkok airport earning 300 baht a day and you saw a gun in the luggage of a Thai VIP ex head of Bangkok police what would you do.

A.Raise the matter and risk his wrath plus lose your job?

B. Pretend you did not see it?

Let me ask you a question.

Do you honestly believe that the airport staff manning the detection machines are daily paid unskilled workers?

See we need that sarcasm button again....

Honestly. The way some foreigners see Thailand and Thais. I wasn't sure! Some on here seem to think all Thais only earn 300baht unless they are " Elite"!

[Nice Boyd]

200 in Moobaan

In Issan

Edited June 27, 2015 by Nice Boyd

[akampa]

I had 2 jars of sandwhich spread confiscated entering Perth airport.

[wolfmanjack]

I was caught with a knife in my bag ,told them it passed through Thai scan , nice man grinned ,confiscated it ,and I flew back here , Fishing Trip nearly went wrong. experts are they at Swampy?..

they caught me with a pocket knife and they sent it along on the flight so I could pick it up when I departed the plane. That was 7 years ago though.

[falangjim]

Thais screwed up and now lying to save face. Move along, nothing new here.

[Mot Dang]

JAPAN

Suvarnabhumi official says Camronwit's gun was not detected

THE NATION

BANGKOK: -- THE security system at Suvarnabhumi Airport did not detect a handgun belonging to retired city police chief Lt General Camronwit Toopkrajank when he left the airport for Japan on June 18.

Camronwit is in detention in Japan after a gun was found in a bag he carried as he was about to leave Tokyo for Bangkok on Monday.

Suvarnabhumi Airport deputy director Phet Chan-charoen said both passenger and luggage have to pass security screening at the airport before leaving the country.

"A passenger [would] walk through an x-ray machine while luggage [would] go through a bomb detector, or CTX, which would focus the screening on explosives only," he said in a press conference.

Asked if the CTX machine could detect a gun, Phet said it would identify it only as a metal object which would not pose danger to the plane, he said.

Earlier it was suspected that Camronwit may have bought the gun in Japan. However, Thai police spokesman Pol Gen Prawut Thawornsiri told reporters that Camronwit had the gun from long before he retired. His son is now in Japan to show a registration document to Japanese police.

Observers said this showed Camronwit brought the gun in question with him from Bangkok - only to be detected in Japan. Security systems of the Airports of Thailand that oversee Suvarnabhumi Airport have been criticised for not being adequate enough to detect the gun.

However, Phet said if the gun was in Camronwit's case, the CTX might have been unable to detect it as the machine was a bomb detector and because the gun was very small. "According to US standards, [if a metal item] is found [stored] under the plane, it is not dangerous as a passenger has no access to get to it to do harm to the flight."

When told that Camronwit was found with a gun and five bullets, which are explosive items, Phet said they may have been a small volume only. "We have to focus on the power to destroy and [cause] disaster," he said.

Meanwhile, Public Affairs Division director Pol Maj General Apichart Suribunya said Japan's public prosecutors might spend a few more days before concluding Camronwit's case.

It is believed that Japan uses the same procedure as Thailand's in investigating such cases, so more time is required.

Apichart said he had learned that Japanese police had handed Camronwit to public prosecutors on Wednesday. His division has contacted their Japanese counterparts and asked for updates on the case. But the procedure would take time, as it was not easy to translate from Japanese to English.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Suvarnabhumi-official-says-Camronwits-gun-was-not--30263148.html

-- The Nation 2015-06-26

Fantastic, I have been through Suvarnabhumi 4 times this year and they did not see a Safari Knife I took with me to Africa,

That isn't even half smart to say that. I hope what your saying is that it was in your checked-in luggage in the hold. Even though I doubt it would get through the hand luggage scanner, if I saw it in your hand luggage I would jump on you for sure. In this day and age it would be foolish for another passenger to ignore it.

[greenchair]

Wasn't taksin recently in Japan.

Should he be increasing his security.

[rijit]

One week Red flagged over safety issues putting bangkok and thailand seemingly close to an international air boycott. and now the next week

small fire arms can get through Thailands Biggest airport undetected. <deleted> !!!!

rijit

Edited July 3, 2015 by rijit