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Gottta tip my Stetson to the old cloudbuster. Died in the saddle with his spurs a janglin. That's the way I want to go: left hand on the horn, right hand raised high, tossing my lariat. Yippy Kai MF Yay, old feller.

should of had the decency to do it in a rented room..and not the marriage bed.

...no points.

Absolutely...but suffice to read a few answer to understand the definition of the word respect differs across different groups.

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

I fail to see how this story would provide you with enough information to make a judgment on the guy's "moral compass". R.i.P. Captain.

Its so said - and waisted money for the tablett,

that he could not finish the pleasure ; :-((

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

I fail to see how this story would provide you with enough information to make a judgment on the guy's "moral compass". R.i.P. Captain.

That is spot on HeljoshinCool providing you totally ignore the hooker perspective. He was probably a really nice guy.

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

Do you think that he was more likely to die with a girlfriend than with a wife?

I suspect that the Viagra was responsible and that the result would have been the same even had he been alone when he took it.

Why would he take a viagra while alone?

Why not at 70+?

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You only really need 1/3 - 1/2 of a viagra / Sidegra pill or Kamagra sachet, too many people unknowingly take the whole thing in my opinion. That's a very strong dose reserved for extreme erectile dysfunction. If you just need a little help getting started, take half.

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

I fail to see how this story would provide you with enough information to make a judgment on the guy's "moral compass". R.i.P. Captain.

The story clearly states he died whilst with his lover, not his wife.

He was cheating therefore his 'moral compass' was pointing the other way (180 degrees out).

Get it?

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I am surprised we don't hear of more deaths of older guys who use Viagra or Cialis. Most probably have a high blood pressure problem that they control with medication. The trouble is using this medication, especially over a long term, leads to erection problems. Then they take Viagra or Cialis, this in combination with their B.P. meds drops blood pressure, sometimes dramatically. And in combination with alcohol can be life threatening.

If you take Viagra or Cialis, and drink, a balance has to be found. Some men, will not take their meds, but this can be dangerous, there is a rebound effect once the use of Viagra or Cialis, together with alcohol is stopped, say at the end of a holiday. B.P. can go thru the roof.

Given what information we have from the article I would say a large drop in b.p. led to a heart attack. People taking b.p. meds, drink and take Viagra or Cialis should buy their own b.p. test unit and monitor what their b.p. is doing. Better still don't drink for several days on each side you plan to get it up.

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Rapidly dropping b.p. can lead to heart attack or even stroke. There have been a number of postings say they would like to pass away like him. In the arms of a lovely creature or off a bar stool. I thought this as well when I was younger, no way I was going to God's waiting room. But as I've got older I have see friends and acquaintances have heart attacks and strokes. Most didn't croak out right, and have ended up back home in a nursing home. Me, I decided on a change of life style, cut the drink to a minimal, exercise and forget the red meat. I still take Cialis, for many the damage caused by b.p. meds is irreversible.

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

I fail to see how this story would provide you with enough information to make a judgment on the guy's "moral compass". R.i.P. Captain.

Unless foul pay is suspected I would have thought that this matter should remain private and have the Captain's demise sullied by innuendo, conjecture and gossip.

I am 75 and hope that my demise passes without ignorant comment!

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Men aged 55 or older considering Viagra or any other Sildenifil Citrate product need to address their heart health with a healthcare professional before taking. Get to 75, that need increases by a factor or 10 or more. It's too easy to buy here and without these proper checks in place.

When one gets to 75 does one really care.

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

Not sure.

As you have heard.

Not so few older women, Thai and Falang, loose interest regarding SEX and encourage their boyfriend/husband - special in Thailand to make SEX with a GIG, a second wife. mia noi or a prostitute.

Such women are happy to let do this unwanted "business" from somebody else. tongue.png

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

Do you think that he was more likely to die with a girlfriend than with a wife?

I suspect that the Viagra was responsible and that the result would have been the same even had he been alone when he took it.

That's right. Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge.

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

Do you think that he was more likely to die with a girlfriend than with a wife?

I suspect that the Viagra was responsible and that the result would have been the same even had he been alone when he took it.

That's right. Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge.

Actually the reverse. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Viagra start off being a heard drug?

New research published today in BMC Medicine shows that Viagra could be used as a safe treatment for heart disease.
I asked my cardiologist and he said no problem and do it with vigor and work up a sweat as the exercise is good for you.
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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

Do you think that he was more likely to die with a girlfriend than with a wife?

I suspect that the Viagra was responsible and that the result would have been the same even had he been alone when he took it.

That's right. Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge.

Actually the reverse. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Viagra start off being a heard drug?

New research published today in BMC Medicine shows that Viagra could be used as a safe treatment for heart disease.
I asked my cardiologist and he said no problem and do it with vigor and work up a sweat as the exercise is good for you.

most heart patients suffer from high blood pressure due to restricted blood vessels which cause the heart to work harder. Sildenafil can assist due to its dilatory effect. in rare cases (like mine) patients with extremely low blood pressure an overdose could indeed be killed because the additional blood vessel dilation could cause an (for the body) unsustainable drop of blood pressure.

advice from my cardiologist "not more than three times a week each time a maximum of 100mg Sildenafil!"

my comment "THREE times a week? w00t.gif please don't tell my wife!"

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

Not sure.

As you have heard.

Not so few older women, Thai and Falang, loose interest regarding SEX and encourage their boyfriend/husband - special in Thailand to make SEX with a GIG, a second wife. mia noi or a prostitute.

Such women are happy to let do this unwanted "business" from somebody else. tongue.png

Great posting, so true. My Thai wife and I have been married, happily, for over 30 years. 5 years ago she encouraged me to take a mia noi, as she had lost interest in sex. I now have two families, one at each end of the Kingdom, which I look after equally, and everyone is happy. Wives, kids and me.

So many newbies, Thai-bashers and pretenders, just don't get this. And try to explain the arrangement to a farang pooying, and immediately your a disciple of Satan.

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My condolences to Mrs. Schreiber.

Her pilot-husband's moral compass was 180 degrees off.

Do you think that he was more likely to die with a girlfriend than with a wife?

I suspect that the Viagra was responsible and that the result would have been the same even had he been alone when he took it.

That's right. Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge.

Actually the reverse. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Viagra start off being a heard drug?

New research published today in BMC Medicine shows that Viagra could be used as a safe treatment for heart disease.
I asked my cardiologist and he said no problem and do it with vigor and work up a sweat as the exercise is good for you.

OK, thanks for that information. Best to consult your doctor first.

This is what I found regarding using Viagra (Sildenifil):

"Do not take Viagra if you are also using a nitrate drug for chest pain or heart problems. This includes nitroglycerin, isosorbide dinitrate, and isosorbide mononitrate. Nitrates are also found in some recreational drugs such as amyl nitrate or nitrite ("poppers"). Taking Viagra with a nitrate medicine can cause a sudden and serious decrease in blood pressure.

To make sure Viagra is safe for you, tell your doctor about your other medical conditions, especially:

  • heart disease or heart rhythm problems, coronary artery disease;

  • a recent history (in the past 6 months) of a heart attack, stroke, or congestive heart failure;"

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That's right. Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge.

Actually the reverse. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Viagra start off being a heard drug?

New research published today in BMC Medicine shows that Viagra could be used as a safe treatment for heart disease.
I asked my cardiologist and he said no problem and do it with vigor and work up a sweat as the exercise is good for you.

OK, thanks for that information. Best to consult your doctor first.

This is what I found regarding using Viagra (Sildenifil):

"Do not take Viagra if you are also using a nitrate drug for chest pain or heart problems. This includes nitroglycerin, isosorbide dinitrate, and isosorbide mononitrate. Nitrates are also found in some recreational drugs such as amyl nitrate or nitrite ("poppers"). Taking Viagra with a nitrate medicine can cause a sudden and serious decrease in blood pressure.

To make sure Viagra is safe for you, tell your doctor about your other medical conditions, especially:

  • heart disease or heart rhythm problems, coronary artery disease;

  • a recent history (in the past 6 months) of a heart attack, stroke, or congestive heart failure;"

I know it is difficult to accept the fact that old guys really do have a lot of fun in Thailand but let me tell you about the nitrate pills. You go to a doctor and he prescribes high blood pressure pills (most old guys have high blood pressure problems as opposed to low blood pressure). Then the doc gives you some nitrate pills to carry in case of severe chest pain. You don't pop the nitrate pills daily - only in case of emergency. So one would have to be a nutcase to take a viagra at the same time you are having severe chest pains. I have had heartsorb (SP) pills in my pocket for 3 years and never have taken one; I doubt if I ever would. Severe chest pain would make me go the doctor immediately.

I think it is common knowledge that viagra opens up blood vessels and improves circulation especially in a particular area.

Things to avoid are coffee and alcohol and fatty foods (cheese, bangers and mashed and faggots) if you have a heart condition; the viagra is fine.

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That's right. Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge.

Actually the reverse. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Viagra start off being a heard drug?

New research published today in BMC Medicine shows that Viagra could be used as a safe treatment for heart disease.
I asked my cardiologist and he said no problem and do it with vigor and work up a sweat as the exercise is good for you.

OK, thanks for that information. Best to consult your doctor first.

This is what I found regarding using Viagra (Sildenifil):

"Do not take Viagra if you are also using a nitrate drug for chest pain or heart problems. This includes nitroglycerin, isosorbide dinitrate, and isosorbide mononitrate. Nitrates are also found in some recreational drugs such as amyl nitrate or nitrite ("poppers"). Taking Viagra with a nitrate medicine can cause a sudden and serious decrease in blood pressure.

To make sure Viagra is safe for you, tell your doctor about your other medical conditions, especially:

  • heart disease or heart rhythm problems, coronary artery disease;

  • a recent history (in the past 6 months) of a heart attack, stroke, or congestive heart failure;"

I know it is difficult to accept the fact that old guys really do have a lot of fun in Thailand but let me tell you about the nitrate pills. You go to a doctor and he prescribes high blood pressure pills (most old guys have high blood pressure problems as opposed to low blood pressure). Then the doc gives you some nitrate pills to carry in case of severe chest pain. You don't pop the nitrate pills daily - only in case of emergency. So one would have to be a nutcase to take a viagra at the same time you are having severe chest pains. I have had heartsorb (SP) pills in my pocket for 3 years and never have taken one; I doubt if I ever would. Severe chest pain would make me go the doctor immediately.

I think it is common knowledge that viagra opens up blood vessels and improves circulation especially in a particular area.

Things to avoid are coffee and alcohol and fatty foods (cheese, bangers and mashed and faggots) if you have a heart condition; the viagra is fine.

So you would not suggest that heart patients consult their doctor first before taking Viagra. You're so confident that you can recommend Viagra for all heart patients? I'd be worried about the "nutcase" syndrome you mentioned, especially if the patients haven't been near pretty young ladies in a very long time. They could be thinking with the wrong head.biggrin.png

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That's right. Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge.

Actually the reverse. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Viagra start off being a heard drug?

New research published today in BMC Medicine shows that Viagra could be used as a safe treatment for heart disease.
I asked my cardiologist and he said no problem and do it with vigor and work up a sweat as the exercise is good for you.

OK, thanks for that information. Best to consult your doctor first.

This is what I found regarding using Viagra (Sildenifil):

"Do not take Viagra if you are also using a nitrate drug for chest pain or heart problems. This includes nitroglycerin, isosorbide dinitrate, and isosorbide mononitrate. Nitrates are also found in some recreational drugs such as amyl nitrate or nitrite ("poppers"). Taking Viagra with a nitrate medicine can cause a sudden and serious decrease in blood pressure.

To make sure Viagra is safe for you, tell your doctor about your other medical conditions, especially:

  • heart disease or heart rhythm problems, coronary artery disease;

  • a recent history (in the past 6 months) of a heart attack, stroke, or congestive heart failure;"

I know it is difficult to accept the fact that old guys really do have a lot of fun in Thailand but let me tell you about the nitrate pills. You go to a doctor and he prescribes high blood pressure pills (most old guys have high blood pressure problems as opposed to low blood pressure). Then the doc gives you some nitrate pills to carry in case of severe chest pain. You don't pop the nitrate pills daily - only in case of emergency. So one would have to be a nutcase to take a viagra at the same time you are having severe chest pains. I have had heartsorb (SP) pills in my pocket for 3 years and never have taken one; I doubt if I ever would. Severe chest pain would make me go the doctor immediately.

I think it is common knowledge that viagra opens up blood vessels and improves circulation especially in a particular area.

Things to avoid are coffee and alcohol and fatty foods (cheese, bangers and mashed and faggots) if you have a heart condition; the viagra is fine.

This also goes for angina sprays, the ones you spray under your tongue.

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Actually the reverse. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Viagra start off being a heard drug?

New research published today in BMC Medicine shows that Viagra could be used as a safe treatment for heart disease.
I asked my cardiologist and he said no problem and do it with vigor and work up a sweat as the exercise is good for you.

OK, thanks for that information. Best to consult your doctor first.

This is what I found regarding using Viagra (Sildenifil):

"Do not take Viagra if you are also using a nitrate drug for chest pain or heart problems. This includes nitroglycerin, isosorbide dinitrate, and isosorbide mononitrate. Nitrates are also found in some recreational drugs such as amyl nitrate or nitrite ("poppers"). Taking Viagra with a nitrate medicine can cause a sudden and serious decrease in blood pressure.

To make sure Viagra is safe for you, tell your doctor about your other medical conditions, especially:

  • heart disease or heart rhythm problems, coronary artery disease;

  • a recent history (in the past 6 months) of a heart attack, stroke, or congestive heart failure;"

I know it is difficult to accept the fact that old guys really do have a lot of fun in Thailand but let me tell you about the nitrate pills. You go to a doctor and he prescribes high blood pressure pills (most old guys have high blood pressure problems as opposed to low blood pressure). Then the doc gives you some nitrate pills to carry in case of severe chest pain. You don't pop the nitrate pills daily - only in case of emergency. So one would have to be a nutcase to take a viagra at the same time you are having severe chest pains. I have had heartsorb (SP) pills in my pocket for 3 years and never have taken one; I doubt if I ever would. Severe chest pain would make me go the doctor immediately.

I think it is common knowledge that viagra opens up blood vessels and improves circulation especially in a particular area.

Things to avoid are coffee and alcohol and fatty foods (cheese, bangers and mashed and faggots) if you have a heart condition; the viagra is fine.

So you would not suggest that heart patients consult their doctor first before taking Viagra. You're so confident that you can recommend Viagra for all heart patients? I'd be worried about the "nutcase" syndrome you mentioned, especially if the patients haven't been near pretty young ladies in a very long time. They could be thinking with the wrong head.biggrin.png

I get the viagra pills at the hospital so I'm a big fan of talking to a doctor about all kinds of things.

However you did say, "Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge." that statement is nonsense and the reverse is much closer to the truth.

When you have high blood pressure normally you opt for things that open your blood vessels as opposed to things that close them. If I saw two old guys one lighting a cigarette and the other popping a viagra I'd warn the one smoking.thumbsup.gif

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I get the viagra pills at the hospital so I'm a big fan of talking to a doctor about all kinds of things.

However you did say, "Viagra can be deadly if used in combo with a heart ailment... which I thought was common knowledge." that statement is nonsense and the reverse is much closer to the truth.

When you have high blood pressure normally you opt for things that open your blood vessels as opposed to things that close them. If I saw two old guys one lighting a cigarette and the other popping a viagra I'd warn the one smoking.thumbsup.gif

Actually that statement is not nonsense at all. What is ridiculous and dangerous is advising people that there is no risk and doctor's advice is not necessary, which is exactly what you have suggested in your earlier post.

Something you don't seem to have considered is that sexual activity can be very hard work for people with heart ailments, and taking drugs which allow people to do activity far above their normal activity level could be extremely dangerous for people with serious heart conditions.

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OK. This is not a chat room for two or three members but a forum and while the subject of Viagra is somehow relevant to the death, perhaps enough discussion has taken place about such products. Thank you.

Edit : TWO posts continuing that "chat" - after being asked not to - were removed.

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