US: Oklahoma police find 5 family members stabbed to death

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Oklahoma police find 5 family members stabbed to death
By JUSTIN JUOZAPAVICIUS

BROKEN ARROW, Okla. (AP) — Oklahoma police responding to a 911 call in which no one spoke found a gruesome scene at a suburban Tulsa home — five members of a family dead or dying from stabbing and a sixth wounded but alive near the front door.

Broken Arrow Police Cpl. Leon Calhoun said Thursday that two teenage sons were apprehended and expected to be charged in the deaths of their parents, three siblings and an attack on a fourth sibling. A fifth sibling, a 2-year-old girl, was found unharmed and transferred to state custody.

"It certainly is shocking. I'm shocked," neighbor Patricia Statham said. "I feel so bad for everyone who walks into that house. You can see it in the faces of the officers when they come out."

Calhoun identified the parents killed as David and April Bever, ages 52 and 44. He identified one of the two suspects in the deaths as their 18-year-old son, Robert Bever. The other suspect, a 16-year-old son, was not identified because he is a juvenile.

The three children found dead were boys ages 12 and 7, and a girl 5 years old, Calhoun said. The two survivors were a 13-year-old girl, who was injured, and the 2-year-old girl. None of those names were released.

At the scene, investigators stepped gingerly around pools of blood, their feet covered to help protect the evidence. Other officers erected black tarps and blue tarps to veil two bodies in the front yard as the sun rose Thursday. A gust of wind blew down one section of the makeshift wall, revealing a bloody white sheet.

"I've been here 19 years and I don't know if we've had more than three homicides in a year," said Broken Arrow Police Cpl. Leon Calhoun, the department spokesman. "This is the worst single criminal event in Broken Arrow history."

According to Calhoun, officers responding to a 911 call at about 11:30 Wednesday night could not enter the house through the front door but heard moaning and found another way inside. They came across the injured 13-year-old first and dragged her outside for fear the killer might still be in the house.

And they did the same with two other victims, not knowing whether they were dead or alive.

Elsewhere in the house, they found three more bodies.

A tracking dog led officers to 16- and 18-year-old brothers in woods near the house. They were taken to the Broken Arrow Police station for questioning and would likely be transferred to the Tulsa County Jail, Calhoun said.

"Anytime someone murders their family members, as young as 5, I don't see how there could be a mental process for that," Calhoun said.

Neighbors said they knew the nine — in part because they stood in contrast with others in a close-knit neighborhood.

Bill Whitworth, 46, who drives a bread truck, said his 18-year-old son was the same age as one of the teenagers detained.

"My son never had an opportunity to play with him because their parents wouldn't allow them to play with the other kids," Whitworth said. The only time he'd see the family was when "I saw the Suburban backing out of the driveway."

Helen Hoagland, 88 and a neighborhood resident for 42 years, described the children as home schooled and kept on a tight leash. The family had helped with neighborhood Christmas decorations, but stopped after two years.

"We just have a great neighborhood. That's just crazy; it's absolutely crazy," Hoagland said as she watched police work the crime scene before dawn.

Statham, 74, said she would see the children cutting grass or playing outside and would have never expected trouble.

"Usually the worst thing we have here is kids with baseball bats destroying mailboxes," she said.

Police Sgt. Thomas Cooper said officers responded to the home near the Indian Springs Country Club after emergency operators received an "open 911 call" — probably placed by the wounded girl — in which no one spoke but the line remained connected. Police traced the number to the home and found a scene so disturbing that officers warned that it could take all of Thursday to process evidence.

Broken Arrow, a suburb of about 100,000 people, is on the Arkansas River just southeast of Tulsa and the home is in a well-established, upper-middle-class neighborhood surrounded on three sides by the country club. Property records showed the home sold for $245,000 in 2007, and Tulsa County tax records show it is among the largest and most expensive homes on the block.
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Associated Press photographer Sue Ogrocki contributed to this report.


-- (c) Associated Press 2015-07-24

[jaywalker]

Looks like it's time for "Knife Control" legislation.

If the family had been shot, this thread would be 5 pages long by now.

Guns and knives don't kill people. People kill people.

[ALLSEEINGEYE]

Looks like it's time for "Knife Control" legislation.

If the family had been shot, this thread would be 5 pages long by now.

Guns and knives don't kill people. People kill people.

So maybe everyone should be allowed to carry small nuclear devices or small containers of poison gas or biological weapons because after all these things don't kill people, people kill people.

[sammygood]

is there something in the water ? or do they drink too much fire water ?

or would thai soaps to be blamed for putting idea's like that in the simpleton's minds ?

[MaxYakov]

Looks like it's time for "Knife Control" legislation.

If the family had been shot, this thread would be 5 pages long by now.

Guns and knives don't kill people. People kill people.

So maybe everyone should be allowed to carry small nuclear devices or small containers of poison gas or biological weapons because after all these things don't kill people, people kill people.

Shhhhhhh. They don't really need any more lethal ideas they already have enough handy and readily use them.

[FangFerang]

"Anytime someone murders their family members, as young as 5, I don't see how there could be a mental process for that," Calhoun said."

Anyone who murders their family is intrinsically nucking futs!

[jaywalker]

Looks like it's time for "Knife Control" legislation.

If the family had been shot, this thread would be 5 pages long by now.

Guns and knives don't kill people. People kill people.

So maybe everyone should be allowed to carry small nuclear devices or small containers of poison gas or biological weapons because after all these things don't kill people, people kill people.

Maybe you should slice your steak with a spoon.

[Seastallion]

Looks like it's time for "Knife Control" legislation.

If the family had been shot, this thread would be 5 pages long by now.

Guns and knives don't kill people. People kill people.

I read the headline and KNEW the story would be somehow used to defend gun laws.

Next we'll have, "If the parents had guns, they could have defended themselves."

Anyway....

Home-schooled and non-social. I think we're dealing with nutter parents with too much control over kids who eventually snapped.

[slapout]

This type of behavior is not predicatable, thus it wiuld be virtually impossible to prevent this and similar mass slaughter/murders committed around the world by a cross section that includes people from nearly every religious , social, non social and economic group , etc.. I canot see anyway of bring a halt to this type of outragious behavior until mankind devics the ideal human being that can be cloned /reproduced in everyway accepted as desirable and abort those who do not fit the accepted criteria as determined acceptable by 100% of those remining in what is recongized as the perfect human species.which can and will coexist in complete harmoney and happyness.as a cohisive group.

I know i cannot hope nor would i desire to live under those circumstances, i like a good argument with opposite view points, desires, etc. A santized life style that some seem to seek , everyone possesses the same materlistic widgets, physical thoughts, desires and dreams just does mot turn my crank. As i thimk it was ''grumpy'' (If i am mistaken i apologize as i did not go back to the mentioned post directed at me) who accused me as a farong who thinlk too much and not have good heart. Whats a good heart, if in good working order I consider that good. I equate a good heart to a good regular bowel movement, both are inportant to good health and well being. My thoughts good or bad and my interaction with others comes from a thought process orginatining in some part of the brain I have made a practice of goiing through life without having to make too many apologies for my behavior nor attitude to those deserving of cooperation and respect. have a wonderful evening what ever your attempting to accomplish.

Edited July 25, 2015 by slapout

[DirtyDan]

This is what happens when you raise a generation of "little angels" by doing their homework for them, punishing them with "time-outs", letting them sit around doing nothing but playing Nintendo all day, and allowing them to disrespect you from a young age. Children should be taught to respect their elders - if that requires corporal punishment, so be it. All I'm saying is that I don't remember these horrific things being this common back before the days when PTA members could have you arrested for back-handing a lippy punk. Teenagers shouldn't even know what the words "I'm bored." mean. Here's a lawnmower push it until your boredom goes away.

And seriously, when did home-schooling become an acceptable option? Your entire life is about interacting with society, sheltering a child this way will lead to nothing but lifelong issues.

Edited July 27, 2015 by DirtyDan

[rijb]

This is what happens when you raise a generation of "little angels" by doing their homework for them, punishing them with "time-outs", letting them sit around doing nothing but playing Nintendo all day, and allowing them to disrespect you from a young age. Children should be taught to respect their elders - if that requires corporal punishment, so be it. All I'm saying is that I don't remember these horrific things being this common back before the days when PTA members could have you arrested for back-handing a lippy punk. Teenagers shouldn't even know what the words "I'm bored." mean. Here's a lawnmower push it until your boredom goes away.

And seriously, when did home-schooling become an acceptable option? Your entire life is about interacting with society, sheltering a child this way will lead to nothing but lifelong issues.

So, you've deduced the cause-and-effect of these stabbings, based on your memory of how things used to be?