Govt rejects HRW's criticism for detention of politicians

[h90]

HRW worries for PTP politicians....where have they been when Thaksin or Yingluck did their human rights violations......Prayut should look into the money flow of them.....

[h90]

"The Thai junta continues to use arbitrary arrest and secret detention to intimidate and silence people who peacefully criticise military rule,"

Where was Mr Brad Adams when the last lot were using terrorism to silence people permanently who dared to protest peacefully ?.

These people are a political organisation hiding behind the banner of Human Rights. It is disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves - though if I've learnt anything from this forum, it's that the kind of people who support Pheu-Thai are not the kind of people who have any shame.

By using the banner for themselves, they are preventing decent people using it for real checks on human rights. Last year they refused to hold their conference in Bangkok because it meant asking the Junta for permission - and they did not want to acknowledge their authority. Oh well, maybe those who needed them will get a look in next year.

Didn't bother to check, eh?

HRW was saying, for example in their 2013 report:

The government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, which won a landslide victory in July 2011 elections, has not yet addressed Thailand’s many serious human rights problems, including lack of accountability for the 2010 political violence, abuses in southern border provinces, free speech restrictions, and violations of refugee and migrant rights.

2010 political violence....yes yes but don't look intot he war against drugs or the 2006 political violence......

[lildragon]

"The Thai junta continues to use arbitrary arrest and secret detention to intimidate and silence people who peacefully criticise military rule,"

Where was Mr Brad Adams when the last lot were using terrorism to silence people permanently who dared to protest peacefully ?.

These people are a political organisation hiding behind the banner of Human Rights. It is disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves - though if I've learnt anything from this forum, it's that the kind of people who support Pheu-Thai are not the kind of people who have any shame.

By using the banner for themselves, they are preventing decent people using it for real checks on human rights. Last year they refused to hold their conference in Bangkok because it meant asking the Junta for permission - and they did not want to acknowledge their authority. Oh well, maybe those who needed them will get a look in next year.

Didn't bother to check, eh?

HRW was saying, for example in their 2013 report:

The government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, which won a landslide victory in July 2011 elections, has not yet addressed Thailand’s many serious human rights problems, including lack of accountability for the 2010 political violence, abuses in southern border provinces, free speech restrictions, and violations of refugee and migrant rights.

2010 political violence....yes yes but don't look intot he war against drugs or the 2006 political violence......

I can't post links as some of the reports reference Thai royalty but a simple google search of 'Thaksin Shinawatra human rights watch' brings up a whole host of links of HRW slamming him, his government on the war on drugs and the handling of the southern insurgency.

So that's now you and EnglishJohn looking a bit silly. Do think before you post lads.

Edited September 13, 2015 by lildragon

[candide]

"The Thai junta continues to use arbitrary arrest and secret detention to intimidate and silence people who peacefully criticise military rule,"

Where was Mr Brad Adams when the last lot were using terrorism to silence people permanently who dared to protest peacefully ?.

These people are a political organisation hiding behind the banner of Human Rights. It is disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves - though if I've learnt anything from this forum, it's that the kind of people who support Pheu-Thai are not the kind of people who have any shame.

By using the banner for themselves, they are preventing decent people using it for real checks on human rights. Last year they refused to hold their conference in Bangkok because it meant asking the Junta for permission - and they did not want to acknowledge their authority. Oh well, maybe those who needed them will get a look in next year.

Didn't bother to check, eh?

HRW was saying, for example in their 2013 report:

The government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, which won a landslide victory in July 2011 elections, has not yet addressed Thailands many serious human rights problems, including lack of accountability for the 2010 political violence, abuses in southern border provinces, free speech restrictions, and violations of refugee and migrant rights.

2010 political violence....yes yes but don't look intot he war against drugs or the 2006 political violence......

I can't post links as some of the reports reference Thai royalty but a simple google search of 'Thaksin Shinawatra human rights watch' brings up a whole host of links of HRW slamming him, his government on the war on drugs and the handling of the southern insurgency.

So that's now you and EnglishJohn looking a bit silly. Do think before you post lads.

And they still do in the 2015 report:

The NCPO has shown no interest in launching criminal investigations of extrajudicial killings related to anti-drug operations, especially the more than 2,800 killings that accompanied then-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatras 2003 war on drugs.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2015/country-chapters/thailand

[tomacht8]

Detention of politicians sounds hard.

Politicans summoned for "attitude adjustment” sounds unfair.

That is the wrong way.

Better:

Full review of the financial situation of politicians by the tax authorities.

How much money, real estate, cars, money, securities, foreign accounts are there?

The whole should include the family environment.

What was actually reported in recent years in the tax declaration?

Projection of the historic income for plausibility.

If some politicians can not prove the origin of their wealth without any doubt,

then tax criminal fines, collection of wrongly received assets and prison.

Then there is no trouble with the Human Rights Groups.

Some politicians are real crooks.

I bet many politicians would beg then for an “attitude adjustment”, only that they can keep the embezzled money.

What a corker of an idea. Perhaps we can begin the process by reviewing those currently in power?

Oh, ah, umm, perhaps not...

I would say all members of the last Parliament, all high administrative officials, all the high police officers, all high military personal and all high judges.

And for my sake they can immediately start with these two types from the OP.

Someday they have to start to sift out all the corrupt people in the state structure, if they want to have a democracy.

In a democracy, all power emanates from the people.

And I think the people want this cleaning process.

[arrowsdawdle]

power comes from the barrel of the gun

Perhaps, powder is what you have in mind. If change is to come to LOS in the form of freedom from tyranny for every Somchai it requires putting a halt to the influx of money spent on tourism, seafood, and sex. Why anybody would spend money on sex in LOS boggles the mind, when there are women in abundance, some of whom seek out other women rather than endure the abuse of insecure little men.

[tbthailand]

"The Thai junta continues to use arbitrary arrest and secret detention to intimidate and silence people who peacefully criticise military rule,"

Where was Mr Brad Adams when the last lot were using terrorism to silence people permanently who dared to protest peacefully ?.

These people are a political organisation hiding behind the banner of Human Rights. It is disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves - though if I've learnt anything from this forum, it's that the kind of people who support Pheu-Thai are not the kind of people who have any shame.

By using the banner for themselves, they are preventing decent people using it for real checks on human rights. Last year they refused to hold their conference in Bangkok because it meant asking the Junta for permission - and they did not want to acknowledge their authority. Oh well, maybe those who needed them will get a look in next year.

Where was Mr Brad Adams when the last lot were using terrorism to silence people permanently who dared to protest peacefully ?.

They were here.

These people are a political organisation hiding behind the banner of Human Rights. It is disgusting and they should be ashamed of themselves

if I have "learnt" anything from this forum, it is that you have a bizarre perspective regarding basic human rights.

[englishoak]

Didn't bother to check, eh?

HRW was saying, for example in their 2013 report:

The government of Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, which won a landslide victory in July 2011 elections, has not yet addressed Thailands many serious human rights problems, including lack of accountability for the 2010 political violence, abuses in southern border provinces, free speech restrictions, and violations of refugee and migrant rights.

2010 political violence....yes yes but don't look intot he war against drugs or the 2006 political violence......

I can't post links as some of the reports reference Thai royalty but a simple google search of 'Thaksin Shinawatra human rights watch' brings up a whole host of links of HRW slamming him, his government on the war on drugs and the handling of the southern insurgency.

So that's now you and EnglishJohn looking a bit silly. Do think before you post lads.

And they still do in the 2015 report:

The NCPO has shown no interest in launching criminal investigations of extrajudicial killings related to anti-drug operations, especially the more than 2,800 killings that accompanied then-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatras 2003 war on drugs.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2015/country-chapters/thailand

Of course it hasnt, the drug war was soundly supported by a certain name the NCPO cannot and would not dare implicate in any way.

[FangFerang]

It's the Golden Rule. He who has the Gold makes the Rule.

[jayboy]

HRW worries for PTP politicians....where have they been when Thaksin or Yingluck did their human rights violations......Prayut should look into the money flow of them.....

He believes Thaksin is funding HRW.That's all one needs to know about this person.

[cumgranosalum]

They are all corrupt politicians and belong in jail.Politicians are elected to support the citizens, but instead they rob, cheet and steal all the money they can get or themselves and their supporters. Another oxymoron is " Honest Politician "

"Politicians are elected to support the citizens" - really, can you tell me which of this bunch has been elected?.....as far as I can make out they just took the job for themselves.

[Jon Wetherall]

I can't post links as some of the reports reference Thai royalty but a simple google search of 'Thaksin Shinawatra human rights watch' brings up a whole host of links of HRW slamming him, his government on the war on drugs and the handling of the southern insurgency.

So that's now you and EnglishJohn looking a bit silly. Do think before you post lads.

And they still do in the 2015 report:

The NCPO has shown no interest in launching criminal investigations of extrajudicial killings related to anti-drug operations, especially the more than 2,800 killings that accompanied then-Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatras 2003 war on drugs.

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2015/country-chapters/thailand

Of course it hasnt, the drug war was soundly supported by a certain name the NCPO cannot and would not dare implicate in any way.

Not only supported but suggested. And Thaksin was fool enough to heed the suggestion and try to impress by how rigorous he could be. Crazy.

Edited September 14, 2015 by Jon Wetherall