kerrysum Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 The bottom line is many people have Thai male aquanticies. You can not call these personal friends. How many have invited you to their home for a formal sit down dinner at a western table? Drinking buddies are not friends but usually looking for a free drink. No truer words said, Super..... Just my thoughts also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeSon360 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) This has become an issue for me. I have been here one year and my Thai is getting to a point where I can have decent conversations. However, all my friends are female and I am getting overwhelmed by not being able to talk about guy stuff, go to guy places, etc. I can easily make Japanese or Korean male friends here, but Thai is elusive, and Chinese as well. If anyone knows a bar where you can make Thai male friends in Bangkok I would be very interested. I think culturally there may be no Thai bar where you can socialize individually at, and even better with an international vibe. This is very common at for example Woodball in Bangkok but they have no Thai songs, which is interesting too, it's just Japanese, Korean, and English. Leave it alone, sir! The reason why you have no Thai male friends is simple. Thai menfolk are extremely xenophobic, and despite their "seemingly friendly & smiling faces", most Thai men have a deeply repressed, and rooted resentment to the presence of male foreigners (including other Asians) in their country. This reply is not meant as a Thai "bashing" reply, but just one presenting the general facts of the matter! People tend to show their "real" feelings of aggression toward you when (1) you owe them money, (2) they are angry with you, (3) they are drunk. The only occasion when a Thai male will be "pro-actively" friendly toward a foreigner, is when the foreigner has something that he (the Thai-guy) wants! Usually its about getting your money into his pocket. Strictly business, period! So, let a word to the wise be sufficient. On the personal level, just follow the Russian "farang" example! Just leave it alone, sir! You will not regret it Edited September 28, 2015 by NativeSon360 Bold font removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faraday Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Got two Thai male friends, really great blokes. One of them is amongst the most amusing people I've known. He has the ability to make me -& other people, laugh over seemingly normal things. We often go & have a glass or two (or 5 or 6) of beer. I take the point that's been made though, that some men here mistake casual teasing of their wife, as being too familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronthai Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Only when I am buying the alcohol and the brother of my Thai lady friend, but he is mostly in China teaching Thai Boxing. When he comes on holiday I am "forced" to drink on his expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeSon360 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) No friends at all, Thai or otherwise. Misanthropic and proud. A far off-topic reply. If you're so much "misanthropic and proud", then way are you bothering to post replies to this forum? Get yourself unconstipated, bloke! Edited September 28, 2015 by metisdead Bold font removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katipo Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Had one. He got murdered by his jilted ex lover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puukao Posted September 28, 2015 Author Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thanks for the great replies, I appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akentryan Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I have two brothers-in-law that I like very much. I have a couple of male co-workers that I remain freinds with after my retirement. Outside of that only one male Thai that I have the occasional beer with. Pretty much in line with what you experience. Very few farang males as friends as well. These consist of people I like to talk to while having a cold one but nothing like planning to meet somewhere. Times have really changed for me since I no longer play golf or play on a darts team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orpheus454 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thai's are generally very shallow, with little real education. Almost impossible to have as friends, and why would you bother? No prizes for guessing why you have no Thai friends, and it's got nothing to do with them. How sad that someone would so proudly display their ignorance with such a post. (Yeah, I know, it's anonymous, but still...) Besides the missus, who's my best friend, I only have one other Thai female friend, but quite a few males. Lovely people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Only relatives. Got near to nothing in common with the average Somchai and detest the hi-so wannabe's, so that leaves either the no good lazy buggers or the middle class professional groups to mingle with. No interest whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NativeSon360 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) I really like that part about the "private jets" You've got to admit, that being born in the LOS, provides for some very unique "male" opportunities, especially if one happens to be astute enough................. to seize them . Edited September 28, 2015 by NativeSon360 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Yes, I have a few male Thai friends - they are mostly educated or pretty sharp. Though I speak Thai they tend to have decent English skills too which might be the draw in talking with me as they tend to mostly have an interest in language though we go on to many different subjects, discussing both personal interests and cultural differences. None of them drink - nor do I… and I do have farang friends too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nithisa78 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 More than several. If you become a Monk you'll have many too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) Yes, but not your average Thai. My friend's career was off-shore for a English speaking multi-national company. But other than him, all the other Thai guys I know I consider to be acquaintances. Likable enough until they get drunk, then unpredictable. I also know a couple of Thai monks whom I would consider 'friends', but the relationship tends to be tied closely to my relationships with the wats they stay at. Really good men. Both have a lot of heart. Women? Different story. I'm friends with some of my wife's friends and some of my own. No giks, just gals I enjoy shooting the breeze with. Edited September 28, 2015 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Full of friends ... Sexy men? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khrab Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 ..... I could not converse with a Thai about the NCPO or a hedge fund or....... I couldn't find anyone either. Thai or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pogal Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I have a few Thai male friends that volunteer together, we are so close we call each other brothers. My best friend/brother and his wife and I go on holidays together sometimes. His wife will hug me when we meet and we are all very close. I didn't really think about it before but I guess I am quite lucky to have Thai friends as close as this. I do understand why many people don't though, generally speaking I have little time for Thai males (and females) because of the way they act, it is too far removed from my own way. My friends don't drink and always volunteer to help others. They are all so different too, from a motorcy taxi driver to company owner in the USA/Thai, a flight controller, delivery driver, event organizer, and a teacher. They are really nice people and I love them all. My Thai girlfriend also gets along well with all of them. I have a wonderful life here, mostly because of them. I also have a few close friends who are Japanese and foreign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orpheus454 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Why would the average Thai guy want a male farang friend? Why would any guy want a male friend? Because friends are great! That's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffkp Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thai's are generally very shallow, with little real education. Almost impossible to have as friends, and why would you bother? I have 3 or 4 male friends (British and Australian), no female friends. Do people ever have time for more than a handful of friends? Thais probably find you very shallow and ill educated. I find them far more interesting, better educated and cultured than the average farang. living in Thailand. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orpheus454 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 The bottom line is many people have Thai male aquanticies. You can not call these personal friends. How many have invited you to their home for a formal sit down dinner at a western table? Drinking buddies are not friends but usually looking for a free drink. I'm intrigued, Donald. Why is the western table important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orpheus454 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 This has become an issue for me. I have been here one year and my Thai is getting to a point where I can have decent conversations. However, all my friends are female and I am getting overwhelmed by not being able to talk about guy stuff, go to guy places, etc. I can easily make Japanese or Korean male friends here, but Thai is elusive, and Chinese as well. If anyone knows a bar where you can make Thai male friends in Bangkok I would be very interested. I think culturally there may be no Thai bar where you can socialize individually at, and even better with an international vibe. This is very common at for example Woodball in Bangkok but they have no Thai songs, which is interesting too, it's just Japanese, Korean, and English. Leave it alone, sir! The reason why you have no Thai male friends is simple. Thai menfolk are extremely xenophobic, and despite their "seemingly friendly & smiling faces", most Thai men have a deeply repressed, and rooted resentment to the presence of male foreigners (including other Asians) in their country. This reply is not meant as a Thai "bashing" reply, but just one presenting the general facts of the matter! People tend to show their "real" feelings of aggression toward you when (1) you owe them money, (2) they are angry with you, (3) they are drunk. The only occasion when a Thai male will be "pro-actively" friendly toward a foreigner, is when the foreigner has something that he (the Thai-guy) wants! Usually its about getting your money into his pocket. Strictly business, period! So, let a word to the wise be sufficient. On the personal level, just follow the Russian "farang" example! Just leave it alone, sir! You will not regret it The replies here just get sadder and sadder and sadder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcpo Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thai's are generally very shallow, with little real education. Almost impossible to have as friends, and why would you bother? I have 3 or 4 male friends (British and Australian), no female friends. Do people ever have time for more than a handful of friends? This says more about you and the circles you move in to be honest. Through work and hobbies I have several male Thai friends, most of whom are well educated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananafish Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I noticed this myself after being here a while, almost all the Thais I would interact with are female. I would now count just 3 male Thais who I am friendly with and talk to regularly, but that's only because I hang out where they work. But I get on well with them and have had drinks with them outside of their work hours so they're a bit closer to acquaintances than me just being a customer. Almost all of the Thais I interact with are girls (not bar girls). Quite a contrast to what would typically happen if a foreign male moved to my home city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 One of my closest friends here is Thai... In fact I had a few drinks with him last night. We became friends more than 15 years ago, socialised a lot, grew closer. He introduced me to my Wife, who is friends with his Wife. He's visited my place in the UK for a few days while over the UK studying. We've been on a few holidays together. I've met more friends through him, but they are perhaps more acquaintances I've known for a long time, some closer than others. I understand those who have difficulty making friends as Thai Males - equally so it is perhaps difficult for Thai males to befriend us Westerners for the same reasons. Perhaps fluency of language is the greatest barrier limiting the potential of some interactions, friendships require trust, trust comes from understanding and understanding comes from communication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerzy Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Strange post here but yes a few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orpheus454 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thai's are generally very shallow, with little real education. Almost impossible to have as friends, and why would you bother? I have 3 or 4 male friends (British and Australian), no female friends. Do people ever have time for more than a handful of friends? This says more about you and the circles you move in to be honest. Through work and hobbies I have several male Thai friends, most of whom are well educated. Exactly. Finding people with shared interests is a great way to make friends. My "in" was music, and then it grew from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thai's are generally very shallow, with little real education. Almost impossible to have as friends, and why would you bother? I have 3 or 4 male friends (British and Australian), no female friends. Do people ever have time for more than a handful of friends? This says more about you and the circles you move in to be honest. Through work and hobbies I have several male Thai friends, most of whom are well educated. It surprises me that MaeJoMTB has any friends at all.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orpheus454 Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Perhaps fluency of language is the greatest barrier limiting the potential of some interactions, friendships require trust, trust comes from understanding and understanding comes from communication. Yep, language is the key. Pretty hard to make friends without high level shared language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Yes, I have male Thai friends. Friends I can rely on, not just scroungers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thai's are generally very shallow, with little real education. Almost impossible to have as friends, and why would you bother? I have 3 or 4 male friends (British and Australian), no female friends. Do people ever have time for more than a handful of friends? While I agree more than a few real friends may be unusual, I don't see only the "generally very shallow, with little real education" Thai males you see. You must be looking at the ne're-do-wells, who in any country are "generally very shallow, with little real education." I ride motorcycles and have a club here in Thailand. Through that, I have met many Thai males with whom I share a friendship. In fact, my best Thai male friend is a biker and owner of one of the largest big bike shops in the South--he is a real friend and brother from another mother and is not shallow or uneducated. However, I also have other Thai males with whom I associate. They are businessmen, educators, or lawyers I have met through social interaction. I guess you need to get out and meet a different class of Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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