I'm fair skinned and have abused my skin when younger and it was fashionable to have a tan.....now i'm paying the price with lots of skin problems and i've checked out the dermatologist in CM Ram and was not impressed with his bedside manner or diagnosis. Have asked around about others that may have liquid nitrogen to 'burn off' the affected areas, but no one i've found has liquid notrogen. Anyone out there in CM know of any good dermatologists that use liquid nitrogen??

I'm fair skinned and have abused my skin when younger and it was fashionable to have a tan.....now i'm paying the price with lots of skin problems and i've checked out the dermatologist in CM Ram and was not impressed with his bedside manner or diagnosis. Have asked around about others that may have liquid nitrogen to 'burn off' the affected areas, but no one i've found has liquid notrogen. Anyone out there in CM know of any good dermatologists that use liquid nitrogen??

Forget liquid nitro, switch to laser removal. Its faster, less painfull and much more affective..I have no idea where in CM you might get laser treatment, as i had mine done in Bangers.. (Kasemrad Hospital)..Good luck.

This clinic http://www.rcskinclinic.com/ have an office that do laser treatment in Chiang Mai. It's on the 3rd floor on Central Airport Plaza i think. You can find more if you can read thai here:

http://www.rcskinclinic.com/locations/branch.asp?rccode=RC12

http://www.rcskinclinic.com/locations/branch.asp?rccode=RC32

Edited September 29, 200619 yr by kudroz

I'm fair skinned and have abused my skin when younger and it was fashionable to have a tan.....now i'm paying the price with lots of skin problems and i've checked out the dermatologist in CM Ram and was not impressed with his bedside manner or diagnosis. Have asked around about others that may have liquid nitrogen to 'burn off' the affected areas, but no one i've found has liquid notrogen. Anyone out there in CM know of any good dermatologists that use liquid nitrogen??

Forget liquid nitro, switch to laser removal. Its faster, less painfull and much more affective..I have no idea where in CM you might get laser treatment, as i had mine done in Bangers.. (Kasemrad Hospital)..Good luck.

Just a quick question..... can you give some idea what the laser treatment costs.....

How do they charge by the kilo, sq. inch, or per/ pimple

????

Just a quick question..... can you give some idea what the laser treatment costs.....

I think it depends on what type of treatment. But my wife went the other day to get some cream, etc and inquired about the cost and it was something along the lines of 100 THB for 1 laser "shock". Not quite sure what she meant, I didn't bother to ask her what she meant by "shock".

I'm fair skinned and have abused my skin when younger and it was fashionable to have a tan.....now i'm paying the price with lots of skin problems and i've checked out the dermatologist in CM Ram and was not impressed with his bedside manner or diagnosis. Have asked around about others that may have liquid nitrogen to 'burn off' the affected areas, but no one i've found has liquid notrogen. Anyone out there in CM know of any good dermatologists that use liquid nitrogen??

Forget liquid nitro, switch to laser removal. Its faster, less painfull and much more affective..I have no idea where in CM you might get laser treatment, as i had mine done in Bangers.. (Kasemrad Hospital)..Good luck.

Just a quick question..... can you give some idea what the laser treatment costs.....

How do they charge by the kilo, sq. inch, or per/ pimple

????

The warts i had removed cost 1500 baht and it was over in minutes. There were 5 warts to remove.. Bargain compared to several liquid nitro visits. And no pain whatsoever. Well maybe a little considering where they were...

I'm fair skinned and have abused my skin when younger and it was fashionable to have a tan.....now i'm paying the price with lots of skin problems and i've checked out the dermatologist in CM Ram and was not impressed with his bedside manner or diagnosis. Have asked around about others that may have liquid nitrogen to 'burn off' the affected areas, but no one i've found has liquid notrogen. Anyone out there in CM know of any good dermatologists that use liquid nitrogen??

Forget liquid nitro, switch to laser removal. Its faster, less painfull and much more affective..I have no idea where in CM you might get laser treatment, as i had mine done in Bangers.. (Kasemrad Hospital)..Good luck.

Just a quick question..... can you give some idea what the laser treatment costs.....

How do they charge by the kilo, sq. inch, or per/ pimple

????

Are you considering getting that 9 kg wart removed from your shoulders Gonz? Al Qaeda'll do it for free.

The dermatologist I have seen at C M Ram does understand the various carcinomas the Western skin is prone to. (P.M. me for the name). That's an important (?essential) start.

It may be necessary to go to BKK for more high-powered laser treatments. I am thinking of doing it, so P.M. and we can make a pair or team for mutual support.

The dermatologist I have seen at C M Ram does understand the various carcinomas the Western skin is prone to. (P.M. me for the name). That's an important (?essential) start.

It may be necessary to go to BKK for more high-powered laser treatments. I am thinking of doing it, so P.M. and we can make a pair or team for mutual support.

The dermatologist at CM Ram 1, is Sathorn Chiewpanich. He attends (according to his card) three days a week "Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday"

CM Ram use IPL "intense pulsed light" which is not "strictly speaking" a laser (and the use of which according to a "down under" Dermatological Surgeon who is a "Fellow of the Royal Australasian College of Physicians" has some (or can have some) undesired consequences/results)

Australian (and New Zealand) dermatological specialists would perhaps see more carcinomas than dermatologists from the rest of the world combined.

It is unlikely that a laser would be used in the removal of carcinomas as they generally require removal surgically.

If they are removed by laser (by whatever type) it would be a quick fix and very likely that they would re-emerge at some later date. And it must be remembered melanoma is the precursor to cancer which can prove fatal if left too long.

Finally carcinomas can be either malignant or non-malignant. It is only a qualified pathologist who can determine the difference, and this only from affected tissue removed from the patient.

I am not a "dermatologist" but I have had occasion to avail myself of their services.

I would still like to hear some feedback from anyone after treatment in the "big mango"

Here is an interesting link to dermatology/dermatologists...

http://www.greatinfo.biz/Top2/Dermatologis...CFU9oDgod23peqw

Edited September 30, 200619 yr by john b good

The dermatologist I have seen at C M Ram does understand the various carcinomas the Western skin is prone to. (P.M. me for the name). That's an important (?essential) start.

It may be necessary to go to BKK for more high-powered laser treatments. I am thinking of doing it, so P.M. and we can make a pair or team for mutual support.

Sorry, i have to disagree with your assessment of the dermatologist im CM Ram. he was the reason that i startyed this thread. my first visit to him was in vane because his stock of liquid notrogen was out [still charged for exam and was told to reschedule when it arrived]. 2nd visit after i called to make sure he had liquid nitrogen.......he missed several 'spots' that he saw before and gave me a quick once over while yacking like a used car salesman.

OMHO....he talks the talk, but doesn't deliver and ....I'M STILL LOOKING for a good derma man.

To quote myself :

The dermatologist I have seen at C M Ram does understand the various carcinomas the Western skin is prone to. (P.M. me for the name). That's an important (?essential) start.

It may be necessary to go to BKK for more high-powered laser treatments. I am thinking of doing it, so P.M. and we can make a pair or team for mutual support.

Sorry - I had not meant to imply that laser was used to treat carcinomas. The two para's are unconnected.

Anyway, it has provoked some informative posts.

Other random comments and questions:

My impression of Dr Sathorn remains positive. Different people interact differently, I guess.

Has anyone managed to find a "real" laser in CM yet ? Anyone been to BK for laser treatment ?

In what ways is IPL possibly harmful ?

To quote myself :

The dermatologist I have seen at C M Ram does understand the various carcinomas the Western skin is prone to. (P.M. me for the name). That's an important (?essential) start.

It may be necessary to go to BKK for more high-powered laser treatments. I am thinking of doing it, so P.M. and we can make a pair or team for mutual support.

Sorry - I had not meant to imply that laser was used to treat carcinomas. The two para's are unconnected.

Anyway, it has provoked some informative posts.

Other random comments and questions:

My impression of Dr Sathorn remains positive. Different people interact differently, I guess.

Has anyone managed to find a "real" laser in CM yet ? Anyone been to BK for laser treatment ?

In what ways is IPL possibly harmful ?

I am afraid that I am unable to advise exactly (I do not know) however the advice was from one of the foremost dermatological specialists in Australasia, with, in excess of twenty years post graduate experience in the field.

He uses a "Candela V beam laser"

I have no negative comments about Dr Sathorn however I have met him and discussed treatment with him at CM Ram 1

Dr Sathorn uses an Aurora IPL

A couple of links...which may provide some info (although they are not going to highlight any shortcomings)

http://www.syneron.com/pdf/auroraSheet_inter.pdf

http://www.syneron.com/aurora.html

If in the fullness of time I do find out a bit more I will revert.

I recently had to have a Basel Cell Carcinova renoved from my nose. This was done by a plastic surgeon, a Dr Songpoon (well that's how you say it anyway!). He operates out of a private clinic in CM as well as CM Ram Hospital.

Whilst not a dermatologist, he demonstrated a great deal of understanding and caution (eg. the normal pathology checks, and he wants to observe it for 12 months afterwards) - something I must say I have not experienced in Australia where they see so many that they tend to take them too cheaply.

Once this is finished I too will be looking for liquid nitrogen treatment for the other spots - much more effective than the laser treatment in my experience - the lasered spots tend to return. I will ask the Dr for a recommendation on someone to do this.

A couple of negatives though - I was shocked at how much he charged, plus he insisted on two nights stay in hospital for something that would have been done in day-surgery in Australia.

I recently had to have a Basel Cell Carcinova renoved from my nose. This was done by a plastic surgeon, a Dr Songpoon (well that's how you say it anyway!). He operates out of a private clinic in CM as well as CM Ram Hospital.

Whilst not a dermatologist, he demonstrated a great deal of understanding and caution (eg. the normal pathology checks, and he wants to observe it for 12 months afterwards) - something I must say I have not experienced in Australia where they see so many that they tend to take them too cheaply.

Once this is finished I too will be looking for liquid nitrogen treatment for the other spots - much more effective than the laser treatment in my experience - the lasered spots tend to return. I will ask the Dr for a recommendation on someone to do this.

A couple of negatives though - I was shocked at how much he charged, plus he insisted on two nights stay in hospital for something that would have been done in day-surgery in Australia.

plus he insisted on two nights stay in hospital it's all to do with money (how much they can separate you from)