webfact Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 GISTDA says oil slicks came from Mae Klong and Tha Chine estuariesHUA HIN: -- Oil slicks which were swept into Hua Hin beaches in the past few days came from fishing boats at the estuaries of Mae Klong and Tha Chine rivers about 100 kilometres away from the seaside resort town, according to Geo-Informatics and Space Technology Development Agency (GISTDA). GISTDA director Anond Snidvongs na Ayudhya said today (Thursday) that satellite images from Thailand Earth Observation Satellite show oil slicks moving slowing from Mae Klong and Tha Chine estuaries toward Hua Hin beaches which will take between 2-3 days to cover the 100 kilometre distance.Because the satellite images are not of high definition quality, it cannot be determined which vessels there were responsible for discharging oil into the sea causing oil slicks, admitted Mr Anond.He assured that the slicks did not come from oil rigs in the sea.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/gistda-says-oil-slicks-came-from-mae-klong-and-tha-chine-estuaries -- Thai PBS 2015-10-30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 You can't walk on the beach in Hua Hin. Tar is everywhere. It gets on the bottom of your feet and it is almost impossible to remove. The tar is being tracked up the side streets away from the beach and is getting on everything. I had to wear a old pair of shoes just to walk on the sand. And the bottoms are covered in tar. The beach is ruined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Just think of all the unsuspecting tourists who won't be informed about this until they arrive and go for their first swim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Two words that do not belong together: Estuary and Fishing Boats OK...three words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The amount of oil alreeady arrived on the beach and the forecast for more to come suggests a very large vessel and more than just the reisidual bunker fuel that finds its way to the bildge over time. Where are the Merchant Mariners on this forum? Wouldn't this likely indicate a boat that has discharged a large quantity of bunker fuel to either perform a repair, or a spill during refueling or even a tank rupture ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlwilliamsjr18 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Notice just how easy, it's deflected..."He assured that the slicks did not come from oil rigs in the sea." Believe that and you pass the test for being a certified gullible member of society. Never is the government to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 There is now a SIGNIFICANT HEALTH HAZARD laying in wait on the beaches (and in the water) near Hua Hin. It will be there for a good several months in spite of what the local authorities will tell us. The hell of it is there is MORE oil on the way and they are doing nothing to contain it BEFORE it hits the beaches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Notice just how easy, it's deflected..."He assured that the slicks did not come from oil rigs in the sea." Believe that and you pass the test for being a certified gullible member of society. Never is the government to blame. This is not crude oil and its certainly reasonable to make it clear the platforms are not the source right up front before people start making accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 All the Bullshit talk,,, they can do Lab tests from the spill,,,, Than they can compare that to the ships/rigs in the suspected area and fine the culprits,,,that's what they do in Australia,,,, works every time,,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) All the Bullshit talk,,, they can do Lab tests from the spill,,,, Than they can compare that to the ships/rigs in the suspected area and fine the culprits,,,that's what they do in Australia,,,, works every time,,,,, The discharge/spill happened several days ago and has likely left the area.Your suggestion makes more sense if witnesses were to provide the name of a suspected ship but to just stsrt collecting samples from every fishing vessel is costly with minimal chance of success. Edited October 30, 2015 by ClutchClark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The amount of oil alreeady arrived on the beach and the forecast for more to come suggests a very large vessel and more than just the reisidual bunker fuel that finds its way to the bildge over time. Where are the Merchant Mariners on this forum? Wouldn't this likely indicate a boat that has discharged a large quantity of bunker fuel to either perform a repair, or a spill during refueling or even a tank rupture ? I have already posted as an ex merchant seaman and engine room rating. I said it was heavy fuel oil from the start, could be a bunkering spill or a discharge from a large vessels bilge. Bilge water is separate from ballast water, bilge water can be pumped into holding tanks and discharged in port to be treated. Ballast water has to be discharged well out at sea so as to not contaminate native sea life in harbour, thats why Auckland harbour is full of star fish that have ruined the harbour floor. Heavy fuel oil has to be heated before it can be used in the engines it also leaks over time into the bilge. With todays junk heaps running around the world with dubious flaggs and crews they will do anything to save money. This is a catastrophy for Hua Hin, the Kings beach will be an oil slick, a failire on behalf of Maritime authorities to control the slick with booms and to aprehend the perpetrators. A failure of not introducing severe penalties for discharging bilge or Ballast in port. While a spill is an accident compensation and clean up money should be sought. Discharge deliberately is an act of international maritime vandalism. I bet the King is not to happy about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Wonderful Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Maybe some illegal fishing vessels said the hell with it and just pumped it out to "show them". There is a lot of bad blood right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) The amount of oil alreeady arrived on the beach and the forecast for more to come suggests a very large vessel and more than just the reisidual bunker fuel that finds its way to the bildge over time. Where are the Merchant Mariners on this forum? Wouldn't this likely indicate a boat that has discharged a large quantity of bunker fuel to either perform a repair, or a spill during refueling or even a tank rupture ? I have already posted as an ex merchant seaman and engine room rating. I said it was heavy fuel oil from the start, could be a bunkering spill or a discharge from a large vessels bilge. Bilge water is separate from ballast water, bilge water can be pumped into holding tanks and discharged in port to be treated. Ballast water has to be discharged well out at sea so as to not contaminate native sea life in harbour, thats why Auckland harbour is full of star fish that have ruined the harbour floor. Heavy fuel oil has to be heated before it can be used in the engines it also leaks over time into the bilge. With todays junk heaps running around the world with dubious flaggs and crews they will do anything to save money. This is a catastrophy for Hua Hin, the Kings beach will be an oil slick, a failire on behalf of Maritime authorities to control the slick with booms and to aprehend the perpetrators. A failure of not introducing severe penalties for discharging bilge or Ballast in port. While a spill is an accident compensation and clean up money should be sought. Discharge deliberately is an act of international maritime vandalism. I bet the King is not to happy about this. Yep. I identified it as bunker oil in the first post on the subject.I have read all your posts but I am just saying that as news is reported of the magnitude of this spill being as large as it is then it starts to narrow down the search for the responsible vessel. This spill is from a large vessel, not some 40 meter fishing boat. Edited October 30, 2015 by ClutchClark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kotsak Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 And the sea currents make it worse.. http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/ocean/surface/currents/orthographic=-255.80,10.24,3000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 "the satellite images are not of high definition quality" For high definition quality you have to pay for it. Maybe scrap one of the planned submarine purchases and upgrade Thailand's geospatial capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZABA Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The amount of oil alreeady arrived on the beach and the forecast for more to come suggests a very large vessel and more than just the reisidual bunker fuel that finds its way to the bildge over time. Where are the Merchant Mariners on this forum? Wouldn't this likely indicate a boat that has discharged a large quantity of bunker fuel to either perform a repair, or a spill during refueling or even a tank rupture ? We used to have Oily bilge water tanks don the big ships that we pumped the bilge water too when in port. At sea we pumped that overboard via an OWS (Oily Water Separater) American ships are very strict on this. So - maybe they had a bilge tank that got full and they just pumped it over for whatever reason.. Or an oil leak into the bilge and just pumped it out . Could have been bunkering and ruptured a hose. This tar-like oil is looks like Bunker C used on steamships. Although I suspect any oil would coagulate like that. Vessels are supposed to keep records of all their bilge and oil pumping operations and changes in tank levels. When I lived in Koh Phangan we would periodically get very small amounts on the beach and yes - it doesn't wash off your feet so easily. Lots of taxi boats there with dirty bilges... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZABA Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 The amount of oil alreeady arrived on the beach and the forecast for more to come suggests a very large vessel and more than just the reisidual bunker fuel that finds its way to the bildge over time. Where are the Merchant Mariners on this forum? Wouldn't this likely indicate a boat that has discharged a large quantity of bunker fuel to either perform a repair, or a spill during refueling or even a tank rupture ? We used to have Oily bilge water tanks don the big ships that we pumped the bilge water too when in port. At sea we pumped that overboard via an OWS (Oily Water Separater) American ships are very strict on this. So - maybe they had a bilge tank that got full and they just pumped it over for whatever reason.. Or an oil leak into the bilge and just pumped it out . Could have been bunkering and ruptured a hose. This tar-like oil is looks like Bunker C used on steamships. Although I suspect any oil would coagulate like that. Vessels are supposed to keep records of all their bilge and oil pumping operations and changes in tank levels. When I lived in Koh Phangan we would periodically get very small amounts on the beach and yes - it doesn't wash off your feet so easily. Lots of taxi boats there with dirty bilges... Its very expensive to pump oily bilge water ashore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 All the Bullshit talk,,, they can do Lab tests from the spill,,,, Than they can compare that to the ships/rigs in the suspected area and fine the culprits,,,that's what they do in Australia,,,, works every time,,,,, You are dreaming This is too easy The Thais are not up to this Just finger pointed and jump to conclusions which is what they do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johna Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Two words that do not belong together: Estuary and Fishing Boats OK...three words. Fishing boats would be using diesel oil, bunker oil is for large low speed engines or boilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Wthanks much to KiwiKeith & ZABA for sharing their experienced opinions. So much better than just the same old Thai bashing nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atsiii Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 Forgive me, but the news for Thailand just keeps getting better and better. Seems like it's going to be a great season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookee68 Posted October 30, 2015 Share Posted October 30, 2015 bullshit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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