DrTuner Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The new elite tourists from China ain't buying, business is bad and tensions high. There's much more of this to come as the traditional businesses of Pattaya continue to wither away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slafriphos Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The language barrier dilemma: Farang retorts with curses. Thai retorts with knife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKnave Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Weird. If you're prepared to pull a knife on someone to get their money, why bother with the watch selling stuff beforehand? Saw something similar happen on Suk 4 a long while ago. Seems the guy wanted to see a watch, didn't like what he saw, said no thanks, and the Thai seller went berserk, started making threats, etc. The guy was so scared that he apologized and gave the guy some cash. Nothing like positive reinforcement to insure this happens repeatedly. Often, all that's required is a small pretext, a perceived (or manufactured) insult, and it is exploited... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark01 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 On many occasions I've been poked and grabbed by vendors to get my attention for something I clearly didn't want. I've also been approached by some very aggressive vendors, almost instigating a problem. Most notably shoe cleaners and watch sellers. While most show what they are selling and move on, there are definitely some very nasty ones around. With the penalties (if anything) for Thais doing something to a foreigner being so low, it is giving them the impression that they can do what they want, and get away with it. Only when an incident is videoed and put on social media does something happen. But even this only seems to spark a reaction when a Thai is the victim. Take the recent incident at Oasis agogo as an example where the Thai attacker, caught on video, had no action taken against him. Things will only get worse unless the right message is sent out and action is taken. But with police corruption from the lowest to the highest ranks in Pattaya, this isn't going to change any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennw Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Stop making excuses for these guys, it is WRONG to pull a knife full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneday Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Seems to me there is a little more to this story than, "he just refuse to buy". Not condoning the vendor's actions, but just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatproblem Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Doesn't matter what the Danish guy said the Thai should not pull a knife on anyone ,the Thai wants to sell he should walk away and not make problem ,Thais are getting more and more evil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash999 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Would be interesting to know what words were used when refusing to buy the watch. Usually a small shake of the head and looking elsewhere is enough for them to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbirds20 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 No wonder GOOD tourists like Americans, Europeans, Canadians and Australians are finding other places to go for holiday or retirement! From new Immigration regulations, to corrupt police and the ever increasing violent acts against us, .. you deserve to be taken over by the Russians ansd Chinese you now prefer to us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adeeos Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 You can REDUCE your chances of being attacked by a nutcase with a knife with those confrontation avoidance tactics. You can't eliminate them. Some people will just snap and you're in the wrong place at the wrong time. Don't blame the Dane unless you were there and saw him attack the knifer first. I know this man, Lars... I can garrantee, he was not the instigator... he's a SUPER nice guy.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDBUGGY Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Talk about a Pressured Sales Pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeHere Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The new elite tourists from China ain't buying, business is bad and tensions high. There's much more of this to come as the traditional businesses of Pattaya continue to wither away. And since business is withering away throughout the country due to the being a less and less attractive holiday destination, the locals just raise their prices, loose the (crocodile) smiles, get more unfriendly and even violent... great business tactics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arunsakda Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I just try to ignore completely, but I cannot help but smile sometimes. (Tribal women scratching wooden frogs). Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAMHERE Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I doubt the vendor pulls a knife on all farang that don't buy a watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The vendor wanted him to sell Knife in Kitchen Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolkGuitar Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I've never understood how people can't deal with these guys. Just say no and then ignore them completely. They soon get the message. Sometimes.... Some years ago I was sitting at a streetside table when a beggar walked up to stand in front of me, shaking his cup of coins. Didn't say anything... just stood there shaking his cup and staring at me. My general rule is that if a beggar is 'selling something,' be it a twisted colored straw or a half-dead flower, I'll buy or throw 10 baht into their cup. But if they just walk around and beg, I don't usually give. So I just plan to ignore him figuring that he'll leave after a minute or two. Fifteen minutes later, he's still standing in from of my table, shaking his cup of coins, not saying a word. I couldn't take it any more, so I threw a few baht into his cup. He didn't acknowledge in in any way. He just moved to the next table, stood in front of it, shaking his cup of coins, not saying a word.... This guy probably buys a new car every two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I see there was no plan by the police to also charge him with selling fake goods. TIT I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Weird. If you're prepared to pull a knife on someone to get their money, why bother with the watch selling stuff beforehand? Cover up a robbery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeHere Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Tribal women scratching wooden frogs My favorite street vendors... Love the guilt trip MO... and if you don't like the frogs, they got those lovely dried water buffalo droppings cigars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamalaRider Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I've never understood how people can't deal with these guys. Just say no and then ignore them completely. They soon get the message. Sometimes.... Some years ago I was sitting at a streetside table when a beggar walked up to stand in front of me, shaking his cup of coins. Didn't say anything... just stood there shaking his cup and staring at me. My general rule is that if a beggar is 'selling something,' be it a twisted colored straw or a half-dead flower, I'll buy or throw 10 baht into their cup. But if they just walk around and beg, I don't usually give. So I just plan to ignore him figuring that he'll leave after a minute or two. Fifteen minutes later, he's still standing in from of my table, shaking his cup of coins, not saying a word. I couldn't take it any more, so I threw a few baht into his cup. He didn't acknowledge in in any way. He just moved to the next table, stood in front of it, shaking his cup of coins, not saying a word.... This guy probably buys a new car every two years. So why do it in the first place? Normal Thai people are VERY embarrassed by these people themselves and normally completely ignores them, so should you, regardless if they have anything to sell or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 You can not make this stuff up..."you will buy my damn watch...or I will cut you farang"....I love Thailand and Thai people...they are so very interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English 1 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Obviously the Vendor is Guilty. But if one politely says 'No Thank you' I doubt there would be a violent response. Frankly, many Europeans come across very abrupt in their voice tone. Particularly Germans and Scandinavians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred Kubasa Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 In the uS carrying a knife with a blade exceeding 4 inches is a FELONY even if you don't use it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Weird. If you're prepared to pull a knife n someone to get their money, why bother with the watch selling stuff beforehand? Now it's "less" illegal to cheat someone by selling a fake watch than armed robbery but just wait and see, soon it will be harder punishment on selling a fake watch than armed robbery thanks to the intellectual rights laws... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Maybe the vendors brother is ACHMED the Dead Terrorist After he pulled the knife he said " I'LL KEEEL YOU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMpvvnOHC1U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancub Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Politeness and patience can wear thin even amongst the most saintly, especially once your meal has been interrupted for the 5th time in as many minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I've occasionally sat outside bars and have seen p*ssed-up farangs just say "#@$! off" to vendors who have done nothing worse than show their wares with a smile. It doesn't surprise me that some get knifed. Wow; thirteen people (poster and likes) seem to think it is SOP to be threatened and occasionally stabbed with a knife in Thailand for telling someone to F off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Exactly. Even IF and it's doubtful that the Dane waved his hand rudely and said F- OFF, that doesn't even begin to make a stabbing attack legal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canman Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Best if Hellen Mirren stays away from Thailand: Helen Mirren Wishes She Told People To 'F*** Off' More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/helen-mirren-wishes-she-told-people-to-f-off-more_5600076ae4b0fde8b0cee0fc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomyai Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) The Dane looks like a calm and reasonable chap in the photo. He's 50? Must have had a tough life. Need age of wife to get the whole picture........hahahaha. Hard life-the guy doesnt look a day under 70. I know what you mean. Edited November 9, 2015 by Nomyai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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