ilostmypassword Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I think we all forget that whatever you believe, your relationship with God or some other deity or philosophy is personal. It was never intended to be used as a tool for mass conversion or the swaying or opinion of millions of others to do your worldly bidding. On behalf of Scientologists everywhere, I thank you. May the Ron be with you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 I think we all forget that whatever you believe, your relationship with God or some other deity or philosophy is personal. It was never intended to be used as a tool for mass conversion or the swaying or opinion of millions of others to do your worldly bidding. On behalf of Scientologists everywhere, I thank you. May the Ron be with you! no worries....have a good day ...I have no quarrel with you...but you seem intent on starting one with yourself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Given that this is Thaivisa, I can understand why someone would say being rational is negative. And I don't understand how asserting that all religions are false would drive wedges between them. If anything, the effect should be opposite. Stick around and you will learn what should be and reality are not the same. ^^^ I have to disagree, I think the whole purpose of god mythology was intended to control and manipulate people. What I wrote was intended for those that believe in some higher authority. If you believe in nothing then you are exempt, funny thing is though, many studies have shown that atheists almost overwhelmingly move to believe that 'god mythology' at the end of their lives if they are of free will to do so...perhaps hedging their final bet at the table....555 There used to be a forum for atheists in Facebook. I followed it and it was good for a chuckle. Most of them that claimed to be atheists were actually posting agnostic posts. I knew a guy once many years ago who said he was an atheist. He also said that when his ship was sunk in WW2 and he was in a life boat out in the middle of no where he prayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 ^^^ I have to disagree, I think the whole purpose of god mythology was intended to control and manipulate people. What I wrote was intended for those that believe in some higher authority. If you believe in nothing then you are exempt, funny thing is though, many studies have shown that atheists almost overwhelmingly move to believe that 'god mythology' at the end of their lives if they are of free will to do so...perhaps hedging their final bet at the table....555 It shouldn't be surprising that a fearful and enfeebled mind would be more willing to embrace various superstitions. That said, I looked for evidence of the existence of those studies you referred to and found none. It seems you have a genuine gift for making things up. Maybe you should found your own religion. Or maybe you should improve your investigative skills. Most people seem to find proof of what they want to believe on the internet. Being open minded is not part of their method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 ^^^ I have to disagree, I think the whole purpose of god mythology was intended to control and manipulate people. What I wrote was intended for those that believe in some higher authority. If you believe in nothing then you are exempt, funny thing is though, many studies have shown that atheists almost overwhelmingly move to believe that 'god mythology' at the end of their lives if they are of free will to do so...perhaps hedging their final bet at the table....555 It shouldn't be surprising that a fearful and enfeebled mind would be more willing to embrace various superstitions. That said, I looked for evidence of the existence of those studies you referred to and found none. It seems you have a genuine gift for making things up. Maybe you should found your own religion. Or maybe you should improve your investigative skills. Most people seem to find proof of what they want to believe on the internet. Being open minded is not part of their method. It wasn't me who claimed that something existed without offering any proof. He claimed there were studies. I think your quarrel is with that person. Interesting though that he abandoned the conversation without addressing the question of his truthfulness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) Given that this is Thaivisa, I can understand why someone would say being rational is negative. And I don't understand how asserting that all religions are false would drive wedges between them. If anything, the effect should be opposite. Stick around and you will learn what should be and reality are not the same. There used to be a forum for atheists in Facebook. I followed it and it was good for a chuckle. Most of them that claimed to be atheists were actually posting agnostic posts. I knew a guy once many years ago who said he was an atheist. He also said that when his ship was sunk in WW2 and he was in a life boat out in the middle of no where he prayed. I had a friend of mine whose father was a marine in WW2. He landed on the beach at Guadalcanal where he saw people being blown up and shot down to the left right front and back of him. The senselessness of it struck him. He said it was there that he became an atheist. So not only are there atheists in foxholes, sometimes foxholes actually give birth to them. Edited December 27, 2015 by ilostmypassword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernjohn Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 What I wrote was intended for those that believe in some higher authority. If you believe in nothing then you are exempt, funny thing is though, many studies have shown that atheists almost overwhelmingly move to believe that 'god mythology' at the end of their lives if they are of free will to do so...perhaps hedging their final bet at the table....555 It shouldn't be surprising that a fearful and enfeebled mind would be more willing to embrace various superstitions. That said, I looked for evidence of the existence of those studies you referred to and found none. It seems you have a genuine gift for making things up. Maybe you should found your own religion. Or maybe you should improve your investigative skills. Most people seem to find proof of what they want to believe on the internet. Being open minded is not part of their method. It wasn't me who claimed that something existed without offering any proof. He claimed there were studies. I think your quarrel is with that person. Interesting though that he abandoned the conversation without addressing the question of his truthfulness. No it is with you. As I said you can find any thing you want on the internet. If you don't want to find it you won't. Now as to if it is true or not well that is a whole new issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 It wasn't me who claimed that something existed without offering any proof. He claimed there were studies. I think your quarrel is with that person. Interesting though that he abandoned the conversation without addressing the question of his truthfulness. No it is with you. As I said you can find any thing you want on the internet. If you don't want to find it you won't. Now as to if it is true or not well that is a whole new issue. It's the internet. It's not magic. You can't find anything you want and I've also got some bad news for you about Santa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit_Doggie Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 (edited) Was that a swan that flew by or was it a gull able. Edited December 27, 2015 by Brit_Doggie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puukao Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 The word Demon = Knowledge. That explains a lot right there. Religions hate cities, for a reason.....too much knowledge. they call me Horus http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread290806/pg1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 The word Demon = Knowledge. That explains a lot right there. Religions hate cities, for a reason.....too much knowledge. they call me Horus http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread290806/pg1 'Amen' is an Egyptian God. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/amen or http://www.thefreedictionary.com/amen That's who is being respected at the end of the Lords Prayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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