monners2016 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Question ; On reading some of the BMs success in getting the right result ref the 50/50 split of assets after you were seeking divorce, Made me feel optimistic but what happens if the land I funded has been put her mums name ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackin1960 Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 It's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langsuan Man Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" so what about people that have had to sign papers at the land office stating that it is not their money that wifey is buying the land with ,i don't see any divorce court asking a thai to sell land that they legally own just so they can give the foreigner half of the sale money.even if they did the wife could just sell the land to a family member for peanuts and give you half a peanut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happylarry Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" so what about people that have had to sign papers at the land office stating that it is not their money that wifey is buying the land with ,i don't see any divorce court asking a thai to sell land that they legally own just so they can give the foreigner half of the sale money.even if they did the wife could just sell the land to a family member for peanuts and give you half a peanut. Obviously a highly qualified and experienced person here guys, I do wonder where he got all this information, not from the courts obviously...lol HL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" so what about people that have had to sign papers at the land office stating that it is not their money that wifey is buying the land with ,i don't see any divorce court asking a thai to sell land that they legally own just so they can give the foreigner half of the sale money.even if they did the wife could just sell the land to a family member for peanuts and give you half a peanut. Obviously a highly qualified and experienced person here guys, I do wonder where he got all this information, not from the courts obviously...lolHL Yep obviously experienced enough to not be so stupid as to buy something I can't own and then expect to get 50% of it when it all goes tits up......Nice constructive and usefull reply by yourself ,thanks for takin the time out to post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inzman Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Assets accumulated during a marriage must be split. In my divorce the house was ordered sold and we split the money. Very easy. It really works both ways, the courts dont care about he paper you sign at the land office. In my country the wife would have gotten everything. I think we are safer here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" Correct.............BUT............the house is in the wifes name, and she does not want husband/ex husband to have anything. So the house that has a realistic selling price of 1 million baht is marketed at 2 million baht. Job done, and not in breach of the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiandrew Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Sorry to hear of your plight. Seek good legal advice. It will be all about the paper trail gather copies of any documents pertaining to your case and go and see a good Lawyer. You do have rights. Best of luck and please keep the forum posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolkarl Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 The fool and their money quickly part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 As another member said, it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolut Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" Correct.............BUT............the house is in the wifes name, and she does not want husband/ex husband to have anything. So the house that has a realistic selling price of 1 million baht is marketed at 2 million baht. Job done, and not in breach of the court. Your post suggests you know exactly what's going on in the OP's life as well the asking price for the property he posted about, or perhaps you've just made a generalised statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowfactor10 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Assets accumulated during a marriage must be split. In my divorce the house was ordered sold and we split the money. Very easy. It really works both ways, the courts dont care about he paper you sign at the land office. In my country the wife would have gotten everything. I think we are safer here! Do u believe this your self?I can only conclude that u have never even visited Thailand once otherwise you cant write this down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taninthai Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" Correct.............BUT............the house is in the wifes name, and she does not want husband/ex husband to have anything. So the house that has a realistic selling price of 1 million baht is marketed at 2 million baht. Job done, and not in breach of the court. Your post suggests you know exactly what's going on in the OP's life as well the asking price for the property he posted about, or perhaps you've just made a generalised statement.there is no property according to the op just a piece of land which is in the mother's name.....as two other posters have said forget it the land is gone belongs to the mother now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowfactor10 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" Correct.............BUT............the house is in the wifes name, and she does not want husband/ex husband to have anything. So the house that has a realistic selling price of 1 million baht is marketed at 2 million baht. Job done, and not in breach of the court. Your post suggests you know exactly what's going on in the OP's life as well the asking price for the property he posted about, or perhaps you've just made a generalised statement. He only tries to explains u that the Thai will control the land and the house and also controls any sale...So the foreigner ends up with nothing while he is the one who has invested the money...Its clear to me that you have no idea how its works in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. I take it he is talking about his wife, don't see it mentioned she being a G/F...but I could have missed it. I have always understood that acquisitions gained AFTER the marriage were divided 50/50 in the case of divorce.....no matter who paid for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gyrosman Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 You are ready asking these ? You think in Thailand its 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) Correct.............BUT............the house is in the wifes name, and she does not want husband/ex husband to have anything. So the house that has a realistic selling price of 1 million baht is marketed at 2 million baht. Job done, and not in breach of the court. Your post suggests you know exactly what's going on in the OP's life as well the asking price for the property he posted about, or perhaps you've just made a generalised statement. I am not familiar with the OP, just mentioning what I know to be a common scenario using illustrative figures.. If as has been suggested later there is no house, only land, then the same thing can-and does -happen. Overprice it and it remains in the Thai family. Edited March 5, 2016 by prakhonchai nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 ....it all can be traced chronologically.... ...problem is to get competent people to do it... .then have it presented in a clear manner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) there is no property according to the op just a piece of land which is in the mother's name.....as two other posters have said forget it the land is gone belongs to the mother now.It depends on how much good money one wishes to throw after bad. It 'could' be sorted but the costs of doing so would be very expensive. Another member mentioned the value of the land which is a fair point. Likely cost of getting 50% back would be around 2.5 million so 5 million is considered the cut off point. Less than 5 million then better to just walk away. Edited March 5, 2016 by notmyself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MF2436 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Why would you divorce your beautiful wife in the first place? I'm sure she cooks well, gives great massage, is accommodating in many other things and ages gracefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Your screwed....like mom would sign it over to you.5555555555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozyjon Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 so what about people that have had to sign papers at the land office stating that it is not their money that wifey is buying the land with , ........................................................................................................... could someone correct me but giving money to a Thai to buy land or house was illegal, i think i read it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 You will receive nothing...not even a "thank you" for the "gift" you gave the girls family in better times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight8 Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Correct.............BUT............the house is in the wifes name, and she does not want husband/ex husband to have anything. So the house that has a realistic selling price of 1 million baht is marketed at 2 million baht. Job done, and not in breach of the court. Your post suggests you know exactly what's going on in the OP's life as well the asking price for the property he posted about, or perhaps you've just made a generalised statement.there is no property according to the op just a piece of land which is in the mother's name.....as two other posters have said forget it the land is gone belongs to the mother now. Amongst all the other things.. all gone. Grab what you can, if anything left of value and move the **** right on. Chalk it down to a costly lesson learnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 Gasoline and a match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notmyself Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 You will receive nothing...not even a "thank you" for the "gift" you gave the girls family in better times... Also to be fair (I'm in a fair mind this evening), it doesn't always happen that way but where the land is transferred to Mom then you know it will. It's like getting scammed by a tuktuk (the price is per person) so you walk away and learn from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 (edited) Even if it was in the girlfriends name you would still have no chance of getting a 50/50 split on it.how would you expect to get 50% of something you are not allow to own. If it was a wife, and not a girlfriend, then the divorce court would order it sold and then split the proceeds 50/50, that is how they get around the foreigner not being able to "own" And just to add, any rights to assets only applies if the marriage was legally registered at an amphur/khet office. If the couple just did a village wedding ceremony only, that counts for nothing in legal terms. Edited March 5, 2016 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 5, 2016 Share Posted March 5, 2016 SAdly I would say that because it is not in the name of a wife you have little legal chance. If the property was in the name of a wife and was purchased after formal marriage Thai Law does accord you 50%. But you have to pursue that outcome via a court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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