Lupatria Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It's surprising that it happens, it's surprising how often it happens and why does it only happen to farrangs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinchaffers Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 http://www.farang-deaths.com bloody depressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fey Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) people dont usually leave notes like this and use these methods in other countries. its specific to thailand. many of these cases are murders. disgusting in the video how the police are laughing at that nutty guy on the balcony. thats how these cases are treated and investigated, like some kind of joke. Edited March 24, 2016 by fey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Lets take few things into consideration as the percentage may be small. Why is it there are so many people falling over rails at condos; far more than any other country? Yes they could be drunk but people get drunk in other countries as well yet they dont just fall from above. There are too many of the same incident for people to consider it just an accident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBkk Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I love how some foreigners just believe 'some' stories because the RTP said it. Go against all your natural intuitions and the inconsistencies of the report and just believe. eOn my way to Thailand Don't know if I'll be back falling off a balcony Below my head will crack Police in brown, they always say Farangs, they like to die this way Coming here on most vacations Suicides, top destinations High above we have our views Happy drunks are full of booze Foul play, not deemed a theory Just a drunk, who plunged while cheery Our Holidays pure misconception Laying dead outside reception Bungy jumping, without a rope People thought, another dope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Balcony's in Thailand are low....too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Well, when Thailand's finest, faced with a body exhibiting deep stab wounds in the abdomen as well as slashed wrists, or another with wrists tied behind the back whilst dangling from a balcony, determines suicide to be the cause, a then constant stream of RTP-described suicides can hardly fail to invite speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyphodb Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Flat block of two dimensions Neon totem pole to the sky Keeping scores of people stacked up so high Above the ground But all they can hear is the sound Of the wind in the antennae It's a human zoo A suicide machine Starfish of human blood shape Tentacles of human gore Spread out on the pavement From the 99th floor Well, somebody said that he jumped But we know he was pushed He was just like you might have been On the 99th floor of a suicide machine Hi rise, hi rise.... Stuck inside a hi rise block... I always find it comforting just how many Hawkwind fans there are on ThaiVisa..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benmart Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 I find no humor in the pain, misery or the death of others. The twisted and dark thoughts of those that do, is sad and unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Lots of "jumping" threads, I posted this on the Isaan forum yesterday "the international standard height for handrails is ~1m, I worked offshore for 40 years and never heard of one person (on a offshore MODU or installation) falling over-board!" only in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 http://www.farang-deaths.com bloody depressing Picking up steam it looks like. 2-3 per day, just a few weeks ago the reports were sparse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It is not that suicide by jumping from a condo balcony is unbelievable... It is the numbers of deaths and the frequency of these so-called suicides that cause one to ponder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retarius Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Aathe explanations don't answer the questions. If you wanted to commit suicide but didn't live in a high rise, what would you do....gun, overdose, jump off a bridge, hang yourself etc. but there seems a major imbalance between methods of suicide....why do people on high floors of Pattatya condos disporportionately commit suicide? The answer is likely to be found in organized crime rather than being on a high floor makes you depressed. Turning to booze as a factor, it's easy to test to see any jumper's blood alcohol content. Do the police even check it, or just assume that anyone jumping is drunk? This is really sloppy.....I wish I had the patience to go back through 2015's TV postings and see if there were only 32 jumpings reported last year....it's only one every 11 days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiterussian Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Picking up steam it looks like. 2-3 per day, just a few weeks ago the reports were sparse. high-season Edited March 24, 2016 by whiterussian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Those railings at the Thai balcony's are just too low for tall farangs, combine it with slippery floors, much heat, alcohol..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 In such headlines there’s only one clear cause of death – gravity. Um, no, Einstein, the clear cause of death is invariably impact. I always say it's not going really fast that kills you, but stopping really quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 the first wave of retired Expat's who learned about Thailand firsthand or in the early days of the web as a cheap retirement destination are growing old now. Chronic pain, cancer, advanced diabetes with the possibly of blindness and limb amputations, Alzheimer's disease. Add to that, alcoholism, depression, money problems and in the case of living in Pattaya, waking up the the realization that you live in a huge lie. On a recent trip the Soi Six, Pattaya, I saw a man who was approximately 75 years old and had the body of a Olympic swimmer. He looked great and was chatting up a 22 year old bar girl. He had the right attitude both mentally and physically. I don't think you will see him jumping anytime soon. Lets hope he can set a example for others to follow. Make sure you find a good Thai woman to take care of you in your old age, before you lose your marbles. I rather build up my finance to prepare myself a decade's stay in a retirement home... I'd rather build up my finances to spend a decade in a soapy massage parlour. How would you have known your have got a soapy massage when marbles are lost? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Aathe explanations don't answer the questions. If you wanted to commit suicide but didn't live in a high rise, what would you do....gun, overdose, jump off a bridge, hang yourself etc. but there seems a major imbalance between methods of suicide....why do people on high floors of Pattatya condos disporportionately commit suicide? To me it looks like an Asian thing, the jumping. In the west people shoot themselves, in here they take the plunge. With all the news of the balcony diver's club in TVF, it's also the first thing coming to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicog Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It is not that suicide by jumping from a condo balcony is unbelievable... It is the numbers of deaths and the frequency of these so-called suicides that cause one to ponder... But do you not think Thailand has a disproportionate number of older farang who may end up committing suicide primarily due to financial reasons (which may or may not be related to health)? Or that they are simply suffering from depression for other reasons, e.g. the isolation of living in a foreign country, no-one to turn to when booted out by the missus, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc46 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 A weekly occurrence it seems nowadays......Pattaya appears to be the favoured jumping location......IMO, I find it hard to believe that all jumpers are suicides...there's just too many.Say, 50 a year among 50,000 farangs living in Pattaya. Just one in a thousand. Lets face it, the prospect of living your life in a 25/35m square cardboard box in the sky would a lot of people feel like jumping It's their choice to live there ,,,,And it's Their choice to jump,,,My old Dad hang himself at 83 I knew it was his choice,,,He din't want to be a Burden to my Mum. The doctors Lasered his eyes and stuffed up his eyes , he was going Blind . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It is not that suicide by jumping from a condo balcony is unbelievable... It is the numbers of deaths and the frequency of these so-called suicides that cause one to ponder... Puppy love over those sweet young butterflies at vacation spots... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It is not that suicide by jumping from a condo balcony is unbelievable... It is the numbers of deaths and the frequency of these so-called suicides that cause one to ponder... But do you not think Thailand has a disproportionate number of older farang who may end up committing suicide primarily due to financial reasons (which may or may not be related to health)? Or that they are simply suffering from depression for other reasons, e.g. the isolation of living in a foreign country, no-one to turn to when booted out by the missus, etc.? I am quite certain some of the suicides are legitimate...unless a note was left...it is hard to say exactly the reasons...but there are far too many questionable deaths which apparently are just not important enough to do an in-depth investigation...they are just farangs you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenmohr Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 A weekly occurrence it seems nowadays......Pattaya appears to be the favoured jumping location......IMO, I find it hard to believe that all jumpers are suicides...there's just too many. They have to be suicides ChrisY. If they were murders it would be a bad look for tourism! The only country in the world where visitors have perfected the suicidal art of hanging themselves with hands tied behind the back, an amazing feat that would even bluff the Great Houdini. Rather strange that the unfortunate now deceased Frenchman went all the way to Koh Tao Island when Jomtien or Pattaya would have been more economic in travel costs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landslide Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 In such headlines there’s only one clear cause of death – gravity. Um, no, Einstein, the clear cause of death is invariably impact. Technically, the author is correct. Without gravity, there would be no impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaihome Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 As a comparison, the USA death rate from unintentional falls is 9.6 per 100,000 population. The suicide rate from intentional falls is 0.3 per 100,000 population. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf I can't find any Thai statistics but if we use the 32 falls (whether accident or suicide) as claimed in the linked article for Thailand, and various web sources that unofficially estimate the expat population for Thailand to be circa 400,000, then that would make the death rate by falling in Thailand to be 8.0 per 100,000 population. Just a little less than the USA. You do realize you are using a rate with a population base of some 318 million against a base of a few thousand. Might be better if you could compare Pattaya against say some of the high rise retirement homes in Palm Beach. I bet it's even higher in Palm Beach. Some of the buildings there have extended covers at entrance to protect people from the falling bodies. TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 Flat block of two dimensions Neon totem pole to the sky Keeping scores of people stacked up so high Above the ground But all they can hear is the sound Of the wind in the antennae It's a human zoo A suicide machine Starfish of human blood shape Tentacles of human gore Spread out on the pavement From the 99th floor Well, somebody said that he jumped But we know he was pushed He was just like you might have been On the 99th floor of a suicide machine Hi rise, hi rise.... Stuck inside a hi rise block... I always find it comforting just how many Hawkwind fans there are on ThaiVisa..... Robert Calvert was brilliant. RIP both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelityCheckOnline Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 My Dr told me when he worked casualty he got a lot of injuries (neck & back and spine injuries) from people on drugs who thought they could fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWideOpen Posted March 24, 2016 Share Posted March 24, 2016 It's surprising that it happens, it's surprising how often it happens and why does it only happen to farrangs? I still say it is the perfect crime. You hear a knock on the door, answer it, the brother of your loving wife/girlfriend pushes in with five men, and pitch you off the balcony. When the police arrive, your weeping wife/girlfriend says you look sad recently and talked about money problems at home. Case solved... If there is a lot of money involved, of course the police will have to get a cut for the proper suicide result of their investigation. Every " suicide" should be investigated from the angle of financial benefit to the Thai woman. Of course the police do NOT want murders as it looks bad for Thailand, so the suicide result is fine with them.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGD Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 In such headlines there’s only one clear cause of death – gravity. Um, no, Einstein, the clear cause of death is invariably impact. Er, no Newton, the cause of death is always cardiac arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugarcane24 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) In such headlines there’s only one clear cause of death – gravity. Um, no, Einstein, the clear cause of death is invariably impact. Agreed. As the man falling from the 20th floor said when falling past the 3rd floor: "So far, so good!" Edited March 25, 2016 by sugarcane24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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