miss.....married?

[ChouDoufu]

single thai ladies have "miss" included in their names

on their id cards and passports.

if they get married but choose NOT to change their

name, what happens next time they update their

documents?

is there no change at all? do they drop the "miss"?

any difficulty or confusion when applying for tourist

or work visas in third countries?

am i miss-ing something here?

[Donutz]

Common sense would dictate the following:

- They get an ID card stating Mrs and whichever surname they have (birthname or name of spouse).

So not any change at all except dropping the 'miss' , which if you ask me is old fashioned anyway as man and woman in Thailand and many (western) countries can keep their birthname rather then adopting the name of their newly wed spouse. If more women decide to keep their birthname there will be little information to be gained from the "miss" title except their maritial status (if that's worth anything).

Normally maritial status has little to no impact for normal holiday visas, workvisas and the like. So I can't see the Miss/mrs title being of any importance there. Now if it's a visa or resident permit to join a foreign spouse in their home country it would depend on whatever the law says regarding marriage and immigration. But if maritial status would be of any concern then I'd expect the authorities to wish to see an official document confirming the marital status and this would also contain any namechange (if any).

Just as the related (same?) topic (here) on married Thai women to the US makes little sense to me: of the type of visa depends on maritial status the US sure would like to see such papers. If the names in the passport match this document it should be all okay. It should only raise questions for some old fashioned, near to retirment officers who are not used to the 'modern' habbit of allowing spouses (f/m) to keep their own birthname or adopting the surname of their spouse.

In some cases I could see changing the family name might actually be confusing things. In my home country (NL) one will Always keep their birthday untill the day you die. A married couple can chose to be adressed and only be adressed with any combination of surnames (ie: birthname, surname of spouse or a combination of both) but any legal documents will Always keep the birthname. Suddenly turning up documents with a different surname could actually confuse matters.

Short story long: a cuple get's married, let them decide what surname they wish to use (name change or not) and get the proper papers to go with their new maritial status and/or surname and you should have little to worry about?? I see worries were there should be nothing to worry about... Or am I the one missing something?

[SoiBiker]

A man's title is 'Mr' whether married or single. Why should it matter if a woman's title reveals her marital status or not?

[7by7]

As far as the UK is concerened there is no compulsion on a woman to adopt the title 'Mrs' nor take her husband's surname on marriage.

So even if applying for settlement as the wife of Mr A she can still call herself Miss B and have that in her passport.

[ChouDoufu]

haha, this is thailand we're discussing, forget common sense!

i'm wondering what most thai girls do when they get married. do they change their

names? if not, i assume they continue to use the id card with "miss".

if they don't change their names, and when the time comes to renew documents,

does the "miss" get dropped?

[7by7]

This is the Visas and migration to other countries forum.

Are you asking about the consequences of a married Thai woman keeping the title Miss and/or her maiden name on marriage when she applies for a visa to another country?

If so, I believe for most countries the situation is the same as for the UK; see my post above. But if you say which country you are concerned about hopefully someone will be able to give you an answer specific to that country.

Or are you asking about changing names and/or titles on Thai ID cards, passports etc.?

If so, you're in the wrong forum.

Edited April 12, 2016 by 7by7