webfact Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Arrested anti-NCPO activists handed over to the police by the militaryBANGKOK: -- Eight people who were accused of violating the computer crime law by operating anti-military regime websites were handed over to the police on Thursday by their military captors.The suspects include Ms Natthika Worathaiwit, Mr Nopklao Kongsuwan, Mr Worawit Saksunthornnan, Mr Yothin Mangkangsa-nga, Mr Thanawat Buranasiri, Mr Supachai Saiboot, Mr Trit Mahathon and Mr Kansith Tangboonthina.They were charged by the military of inciting public unrest and violation of the computer crime law.During the handover of the suspects to the police, the suspects’ lawyer, Ms Kumklao Songsomboon from the centre for human rights lawyers demanded that the suspects should be allowed to choose their own lawyer or lawyers instead of the police making the choice.She also claimed that the arrest of the eight suspects by military personnel at their residences on Wednesday was illegal because there were no search warrants from the court when troops forced their way into the suspects’ houses to make arrests.She insisted that the suspects had the right to see their lawyers and to be visited by their relatives.At a police press conference held at about 6 pm, Pol Maj-Gen Chayaphol charged that the suspects were involved in anti-NCPO activities by means of disseminating anti-NCPO information and images through the websites they administer with an intention to incite public resistance against the military regime and to cause public unrest.He claimed that the suspects were paid to do their different jobs through Ms Natthaka, the page administrator, who received money from the financier and split it to her colleagues.Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/161507 -- Thai PBS 2016-04-29 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Charged for having an opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Police choose lawyers for defendants??? What chance has anybody got? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 This has made the news in OZ , if the Junta think that Khun Thaksin is running a campaign to make Thailand look bad internationally , think again , you're doing a great job without anybody's help.............................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Charged for having an opinion Charged for having the WRONG opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Police choose lawyers for defendants??? What chance has anybody got? The abuses are becoming increasingly more blatant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Charged for having an opinionCharged for having the WRONG opinion Charged for having an opinion contrary to that of the junta. Scary '1984' stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 BANGKOK — The army is considering royal defamation charges against some of the eight people abducted from their homes by soldiers, police said Thursday, as their lawyer alleges they are being treated unfairly. The eight, now accused by police of being paid to run anti-government Facebook pages, have already been charged with sedition and violating the Computer Crime Act. They will be tried by a military court. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1461907372 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 According to news reports: Arrest without warrants Interrogation without lawyer of choice Civilians to be tried by military A trifecta of human rights abuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 BANGKOK — The army is considering royal defamation charges against some of the eight people abducted from their homes by soldiers, police said Thursday, as their lawyer alleges they are being treated unfairly. The eight, now accused by police of being paid to run anti-government Facebook pages, have already been charged with sedition and violating the Computer Crime Act. They will be tried by a military court. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1461907372 Tried by military courts means the Office of the Attorney General won't prosecute before the Criminal Administrative Court. There is no appeal rights in a military trial and the accuser is also the judge. Reform of Justice has become a mockingjay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 BANGKOK — The army is considering royal defamation charges against some of the eight people abducted from their homes by soldiers, police said Thursday, as their lawyer alleges they are being treated unfairly. The eight, now accused by police of being paid to run anti-government Facebook pages, have already been charged with sedition and violating the Computer Crime Act. They will be tried by a military court. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1461907372 Tried by military courts means the Office of the Attorney General won't prosecute before the Criminal Administrative Court. There is no appeal rights in a military trial and the accuser is also the judge. Reform of Justice has become a mockingjay. As history has shown , what comes around goes around, just depends on the time line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 BANGKOK The army is considering royal defamation charges against some of the eight people abducted from their homes by soldiers, police said Thursday, as their lawyer alleges they are being treated unfairly. The eight, now accused by police of being paid to run anti-government Facebook pages, have already been charged with sedition and violating the Computer Crime Act. They will be tried by a military court. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1461907372 Tried by military courts means the Office of the Attorney General won't prosecute before the Criminal Administrative Court. There is no appeal rights in a military trial and the accuser is also the judge. Reform of Justice has become a mockingjay. As history has shown , what comes around goes around, just depends on the time line. Correct, ever dog has its day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 BANGKOK — The army is considering royal defamation charges against some of the eight people abducted from their homes by soldiers, police said Thursday, as their lawyer alleges they are being treated unfairly. The eight, now accused by police of being paid to run anti-government Facebook pages, have already been charged with sedition and violating the Computer Crime Act. They will be tried by a military court. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1461907372 I read here they were being paid to be activists....as i said in other post.. normal people would not risk it.. but paid ones for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 BANGKOK — The army is considering royal defamation charges against some of the eight people abducted from their homes by soldiers, police said Thursday, as their lawyer alleges they are being treated unfairly. The eight, now accused by police of being paid to run anti-government Facebook pages, have already been charged with sedition and violating the Computer Crime Act. They will be tried by a military court. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1461907372 I read here they were being paid to be activists....as i said in other post.. normal people would not risk it.. but paid ones for sure.. Yes, sure, if that makes you feel any better. Very credible! BTW, you're right that normal people don't risk jail for their beliefs. That's why those who do are called activists.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 BANGKOK — The army is considering royal defamation charges against some of the eight people abducted from their homes by soldiers, police said Thursday, as their lawyer alleges they are being treated unfairly. The eight, now accused by police of being paid to run anti-government Facebook pages, have already been charged with sedition and violating the Computer Crime Act. They will be tried by a military court. http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1461907372 I read here they were being paid to be activists....as i said in other post.. normal people would not risk it.. but paid ones for sure.. Yes, sure, if that makes you feel any better. Very credible! BTW, you're right that normal people don't risk jail for their beliefs. That's why those who do are called activists.... It was reported in the Pro red Khaosod.. so not sure how not credible it is. It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I read here they were being paid to be activists....as i said in other post.. normal people would not risk it.. but paid ones for sure.. Yes, sure, if that makes you feel any better. Very credible! BTW, you're right that normal people don't risk jail for their beliefs. That's why those who do are called activists.... It was reported in the Pro red Khaosod.. so not sure how not credible it is. It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it. "It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it." I'm speechless! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 hardly activists, more like paid reds doing what their paymaster tells them too, if they were actually activist they wouldnt be taking 18,000 baht a month to do it. The students that were protesting werent paid to do it, it was based no their own ideals, these reds are being paid by some mysterious stranger(I wonder who) to cause problems in the general public and basically stir up as much trouble and discontent as they can. The fact they were paid a monthly wage to do it says it all, lets see if we can guess who their benefactor could be. Genuine activists are not paid to do it, all we have here are stooges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 All warfare is based on deception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I read here they were being paid to be activists....as i said in other post.. normal people would not risk it.. but paid ones for sure.. Yes, sure, if that makes you feel any better. Very credible! BTW, you're right that normal people don't risk jail for their beliefs. That's why those who do are called activists.... It was reported in the Pro red Khaosod.. so not sure how not credible it is. It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it. "It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it." I'm speechless! Man enjoying great liberty of speech on online forum, and not being paid, cannot understand why anyone would take that risk. Sometimes the self-awareness is entirely AWOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 hardly activists, more like paid reds doing what their paymaster tells them too, if they were actually activist they wouldnt be taking 18,000 baht a month to do it. The students that were protesting werent paid to do it, it was based no their own ideals, these reds are being paid by some mysterious stranger(I wonder who) to cause problems in the general public and basically stir up as much trouble and discontent as they can. The fact they were paid a monthly wage to do it says it all, lets see if we can guess who their benefactor could be. Genuine activists are not paid to do it, all we have here are stooges. So if they are paid (which is not unusual for webmasters or similar jobs), according to you they deserve to be arrested and possibly jailed for editing critics of the current government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Thaksin has more than enough money to pay for the election result he wants, and the junta know this, its what will happen to them, and everyone who tried to systematically destroy them that worries them. Does anyone seriously believe that Prayuth and his backers will actually allow this to happen? There are far bigger stakes involved than just winning an election, there are plenty of people who despise Thaksin in the North East and Issan, but they will take his money no problem, as they despise the alternatives even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holy Cinema Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 hardly activists, more like paid reds doing what their paymaster tells them too, if they were actually activist they wouldnt be taking 18,000 baht a month to do it. The students that were protesting werent paid to do it, it was based no their own ideals, these reds are being paid by some mysterious stranger(I wonder who) to cause problems in the general public and basically stir up as much trouble and discontent as they can. The fact they were paid a monthly wage to do it says it all, lets see if we can guess who their benefactor could be. Genuine activists are not paid to do it, all we have here are stooges. So if they are paid (which is not unusual for webmasters or similar jobs), according to you they deserve to be arrested and possibly jailed for editing critics of the current government? I was a moderator on a forum before and although wasn't paid monthly, I did receive an end of year bonus through all of the various adverts we had, I always donated that money to charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plutojames88 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Seems like even the guy who posted the Brits being bashed is a national security threat and being arrested. It's easy for them to draw a line in the sand and say its been crossed . The bogus referendum law says people can be critical but must state why in a rationale manner. They can call uneducated people's reasons Foul language or a security threat if its simple and not laid out articulately . Effectively , it becomes dangerous to not agree. And even then if you do it carefully soldiers may come for you. Thailand isn't the same it was. Even the odd fellows here that hate Thaksin must see it was for Thais "" the good old days "" by comparison . Unless you sold drugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 I read here they were being paid to be activists....as i said in other post.. normal people would not risk it.. but paid ones for sure.. Yes, sure, if that makes you feel any better. Very credible! BTW, you're right that normal people don't risk jail for their beliefs. That's why those who do are called activists.... It was reported in the Pro red Khaosod.. so not sure how not credible it is. It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it. "It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it." I'm speechless! More info in the Bangkok post revealed that they are hired by Jattuporn, so I was right. They were paid for reds with a lot to gain from it. They were close with those who directly benefited from PTP rule. Like i said before.. one should have pretty good motivation to do something this stupid and ordinary people would not just do it because they feel its right.. far to much risk. Seems I was right and you can stay speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 Yes, sure, if that makes you feel any better. Very credible! BTW, you're right that normal people don't risk jail for their beliefs. That's why those who do are called activists.... It was reported in the Pro red Khaosod.. so not sure how not credible it is. It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it. "It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it." I'm speechless! More info in the Bangkok post revealed that they are hired by Jattuporn, so I was right. They were paid for reds with a lot to gain from it. They were close with those who directly benefited from PTP rule. Like i said before.. one should have pretty good motivation to do something this stupid and ordinary people would not just do it because they feel its right.. far to much risk. Seems I was right and you can stay speechless. ".....ordinary people would not just do it because they feel its right.. far to much risk." What made me speechless was not your claim that they were paid but that there are no one who protest against the junta just because they feel it's the right thing to do. I still can't wrap my head around someone saying that without attempting to troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 (edited) More info in the Bangkok post revealed that they are hired by Jattuporn, so I was right. They were paid for reds with a lot to gain from it. They were close with those who directly benefited from PTP rule. Like i said before.. one should have pretty good motivation to do something this stupid and ordinary people would not just do it because they feel its right.. far to much risk. I read here they were being paid to be activists....as i said in other post.. normal people would not risk it.. but paid ones for sure.. Seems I was right and you can stay speechless. When you say "they" are you referring to the 2 men who were hired by Jutaporn to run web sites for him and Peace TV? That is the gist of the BP article. Of course, Jutaporn protested that they did nothing wrong. As for the other 6, some of them are connected to a lady who ran a foundation to benefit autistic children, and then veered into politics. I have not seen an article linking her to Jutaporn or anyone else of note. I think the current situation fairly reflects the reality of the Red Shirt movement. It has been dominated by Jutaporn and the UDD, but it has also had numerous other groups. It would be fair to say the various groups are not very cohesive. So it would not be surprising if there are anti-Junta web sites totally disconnected from Jutaporn's operations. Edited May 1, 2016 by phoenixdoglover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 http://www.khaosodenglish.com/detail.php?newsid=1461907372 I read here they were being paid to be activists....as i said in other post.. normal people would not risk it.. but paid ones for sure.. Yes, sure, if that makes you feel any better. Very credible! BTW, you're right that normal people don't risk jail for their beliefs. That's why those who do are called activists.... It was reported in the Pro red Khaosod.. so not sure how not credible it is. It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it. please explain how being paid to run a website erases your human rights... your turn at the podium of junta-logic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LannaGuy Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 It would explain it to me because why else do stupid things that can get you in jail for a long time if you don't profit from it. weep Mandala... weep Ghandi... weep anyone who objects to a military junta and does not 'profit from it' you are a disgrace to humankind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plutojames88 Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 The affiliation is not as important as the content. A weight lifter might be affiliated with gay tango dancers ....so? Point is the thoughts or reasons of opinion are still a freedom that arrest is violating . Someone should be allowed to say or think that a political frame work is not suited to their likes. The arrests are no more valid because the people support a party the rulers dislike. It's like saying the weight lifter is banned from the gym because he has a pink towel and is friends with gay tango dancers.? <deleted> has that got to do with maybe his membership? Which leads us to the main point. The discrimination against free speech . Their kind of membership is exclusionary of anyone different to their views. Arresting them is still wrong even if you don't like the party they support. Or in the analogy case the pink towel ( red membership ) and gay tango dancers ( written opinion) . It's 21 st century . The more the military arrest people for the silliest of things the more the international focus will sharpen. It's not just elderly woman being bashed on holidays there that will harm their economy if in news. These things make people re- think too. How long before some brave men step up and take things into their own hands and force military reaction? Continue the arrests and I think a wholesale protest might eventuate . What's with westerners here implying the arrested are somehow worthy of being locked up? Isn't that kinda bitchy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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