webfact Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 India: Two IndiGo pilots grounded for mistaking road for runwayby Asian Correspondent StaffTWO IndiGo pilots in India have been grounded for mistaking a road for a runway and attempting to land on it, the airline and local media reported.The blunder, which took place in the city of Jaipur on April 27, saw the pilots pulling the plane up barely a few hundred feet from the ground when alarms started going off.According to the Hindustan Times, the plane was hardly 900 feet away from touchdown, equivalent to just under 1.5 minutes, when the Enhanced Ground Proximity Warning System(EGPWS) sounded in the cockpit.Full story: https://asiancorrespondent.com/2016/05/india-two-indigo-pilots-grounded-mistaking-road-runway/-- ASIAN CORRESPONDENT 2016-05-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Should have gone to spec savers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 Not the first time such has happened - I was in Chitose, Japan in 1961 when a new American Pilot making first run landed the full Tokyo DC7 flight on the WWII runway that was destroyed by bombs and located about 10 miles from town and used by Japanese Self Defense force as a combat training ground. Control tower at normal airport called and pilot reported being on the ground - they informed him he was not at Chitose Airport - they had to tow a plane ramp to get passengers off and the next day that pilot was tasked with taking aircraft off - which he did. It was amazing as runway was considered totally destroyed and from my observation; it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I'll bet the heads of the two in the cockpit were doing a bit an extreme side shuffle What are those cars doing on the runway waddy waddy deeb deeb....bleep bleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 No doubt a P2F airline with a low hours Captain who came up through the ranks of P2F himself......what a shambles. To think, it use to be such a respected occupation, destroyed by the company bean counters, all in the name of greed. ......coming to a road near you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 I'll bet the heads of the two in the cockpit were doing a bit an extreme side shuffle What are those cars doing on the runway waddy waddy deeb deeb....bleep bleep Lol. The term, "Pay peanuts, get monkies" rings true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickmouse1 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Control Tower...Piolt...Indian Beer...100% the weather was to blame..bad weather & extremely poor visibility ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I remember reading about an Indian pilot, after a highly "unconventional" landing, being investigated and it was found that their flying qualifications were bogus. A further check showed that 40% of Indian pilots were flying on forged credentials, a very scary situation indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsd Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Not the first time such has happened - I was in Chitose, Japan in 1961 when a new American Pilot making first run landed the full Tokyo DC7 flight on the WWII runway that was destroyed by bombs and located about 10 miles from town and used by Japanese Self Defense force as a combat training ground. Control tower at normal airport called and pilot reported being on the ground - they informed him he was not at Chitose Airport - they had to tow a plane ramp to get passengers off and the next day that pilot was tasked with taking aircraft off - which he did. It was amazing as runway was considered totally destroyed and from my observation; it was. You don't even have to go back that far, in 2013 a couple of Boeing pilots landed the Dreamlifter (a 747 with an expanded body) at a general aviation airport instead of a nearby Air Force Base, a base that they flew to regularly. Not only was the runway far too short, the taxiways were too tight for the plane to turn around under its own power and they had to bring in a tug from the AFB (under police escort because the tug was too slow to drive the streets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I met a young farang who went to study to become a commercial jet pilot. He wound up dropping out of the course, because the other students (he said they were 'mostly Arabs') were smoking so much tobacco, it made him sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Control Tower...Piolt...Indian Beer...100% the weather was to blame..bad weather & extremely poor visibility ? Working out of Northern India with a S-58 helicopter for The Indian Oil Co. An Air India pilot flying a 748 airplane bringing our oilmen to be flown out to the drill ship approached us to ask about our operation.When he was about 3 feet away we could smell the alcohol on his breath.This guy flew tipsy all the time.He finally was taken to jail after a crash while taxing on the same airport drunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxo1947 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Wow --the most amazing part of this story is that they found an empty road to mistake as a runway-- in India ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 No doubt a P2F airline with a low hours Captain who came up through the ranks of P2F himself......what a shambles. To think, it use to be such a respected occupation, destroyed by the company bean counters, all in the name of greed. ......coming to a road near you! Many of these so called "pilots" flying the startup airlines such as Air Asia and,Nok Air to name a few of many gain enough hours to obtain a commercial license by flying "The Parker Pen".5 hours can get you 50.I knew a helicopter that a job during the winter months in Iran of starting the engines on our helicopters each day to warm the oil up but not flying(we had over 100 Hueys).He logged hundreds of hours of flying time while sitting on the ground. Fortunately the helicopter community was very small in those days and nobody legit able was going to hire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I'll bet the heads of the two in the cockpit were doing a bit an extreme side shuffle What are those cars doing on the runway waddy waddy deeb deeb....bleep bleep Lol. The term, "Pay peanuts, get monkies" rings true. On 31 October 2000 Singapore Airlines 006 crashed in Taiwan after taking a wrong (closed) runway : the circumstances may have been different but I guess the passengers on SG006 did not "pay peanuts". Pilot error remains a serious cause of accidents regardless the fares paid by the passengers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I'll bet the heads of the two in the cockpit were doing a bit an extreme side shuffle What are those cars doing on the runway waddy waddy deeb deeb....bleep bleep Lol.The term, "Pay peanuts, get monkies" rings true. On 31 October 2000 Singapore Airlines 006 crashed in Taiwan after taking a wrong (closed) runway : the circumstances may have been different but I guess the passengers on SG006 did not "pay peanuts". Pilot error remains a serious cause of accidents regardless the fares paid by the passengers. I was actually referring to their 'wages' ie; nil, more so than the rediculously low air fares, but I understand your point nevertheless. I will counter to say, all humans make errors, only incompetent fools are more likely to make them. One of the first things I was taught when I started flying and it's a golden rule of aviation, 'Never let the aircraft take you anywhere your brain hasn't visited 5 minutes earlier' or words to that affect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 That's a lot of peanuts for a lot of monkeys. These are since 2010 alone: 2010s March 31, 2016 An Aeromexico Embraer 145, bound for Monterrey (MTY), mistakenly lands at Aeropuerto del Norte (ADN) in Apodaca. January 12, 2014 - A Southwest Airlines 737, bound for Branson Airport in Taney County, Missouri (BKG), mistakenly lands at M. Graham Clark Downtown Airport (PLK). December 18, 2013 - An Ethiopian Airlines 767, bound for Kilimanjaro International Airport (JRO), mistakenly lands at Arusha Airport (ARK). November 20, 2013 - A Boeing Dreamlifter, bound for McConnell Air Force Base in Wichita, Kansas, mistakenly lands at Jabara Airport (AAO). October 13, 2012 - A Sriwijaya Air 737, bound for Minangkabau International Airport in Padang, Indonesia (PDG), mistakenly lands at Tabing Airport, a military airfield. August 7, 2012 - A Silver Airways Saab 340B, bound for Clarksburg, West Virginia (CKB), mistakenly lands at Fairmont Municipal Airport (4G7). October 30, 2011 - An Azul Linhas Aereas E-195, bound for Teresina, Brazil (THE), mistakenly lands at Domingos Rego Airport in Timon. September 7, 2011 - A Colgan Air Saab 340, bound for Lakes Charles, Louisiana (LCH), mistakenly lands at Southland Field (L75) in Carlyss. September 13, 2010 - An Aeromexico MD-83, bound for Tuxtla, Mexico (TGZ), mistakenly lands at Francisco Sarabia/Teran Military Airport. The complete list is at http://www.thirdamendment.com/WrongWay.pdf And this one, from Perth Australia in the 1950's "They called tower when they were joining the circuit Tower replied: "Continue not in sight from the tower" Then they called when turning base - Tower replied "Cleared to land call on the ground" Vampire called "On ground now." Tower replied :"Not on this airfield you aren't." " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 That's a lot of peanuts for a lot of monkeys. These are since 2010 alone: 2010s March 31, 2016 An Aeromexico Embraer 145, bound for Monterrey (MTY), mistakenly lands at Aeropuerto del Norte (ADN) in Apodaca. January 12, 2014 - A Southwest Airlines 737, bound for Branson Airport in Taney County, Missouri (BKG), mistakenly lands at M. Graham Clark Downtown Airport (PLK). December 18, 2013 - An Ethiopian Airlines 767, bound for Kilimanjaro International Airport (JRO), mistakenly lands at Arusha Airport (ARK). November 20, 2013 - A Boeing Dreamlifter, bound for McConnell Air Force Base in Wichita, Kansas, mistakenly lands at Jabara Airport (AAO). October 13, 2012 - A Sriwijaya Air 737, bound for Minangkabau International Airport in Padang, Indonesia (PDG), mistakenly lands at Tabing Airport, a military airfield. August 7, 2012 - A Silver Airways Saab 340B, bound for Clarksburg, West Virginia (CKB), mistakenly lands at Fairmont Municipal Airport (4G7). October 30, 2011 - An Azul Linhas Aereas E-195, bound for Teresina, Brazil (THE), mistakenly lands at Domingos Rego Airport in Timon. September 7, 2011 - A Colgan Air Saab 340, bound for Lakes Charles, Louisiana (LCH), mistakenly lands at Southland Field (L75) in Carlyss. September 13, 2010 - An Aeromexico MD-83, bound for Tuxtla, Mexico (TGZ), mistakenly lands at Francisco Sarabia/Teran Military Airport. The complete list is at http://www.thirdamendment.com/WrongWay.pdf And this one, from Perth Australia in the 1950's "They called tower when they were joining the circuit Tower replied: "Continue not in sight from the tower" Then they called when turning base - Tower replied "Cleared to land call on the ground" Vampire called "On ground now." Tower replied :"Not on this airfield you aren't." " Well they landed the plane didn't they? Can't see what the fuss is about ! 5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 That's a lot of peanuts for a lot of monkeys. These are since 2010 alone: 2010s March 31, 2016 An Aeromexico Embraer 145, bound for Monterrey (MTY), mistakenly lands at Aeropuerto del Norte (ADN) in Apodaca. January 12, 2014 - A Southwest Airlines 737, bound for Branson Airport in Taney County, Missouri (BKG), mistakenly lands at M. Graham Clark Downtown Airport (PLK). December 18, 2013 - An Ethiopian Airlines 767, bound for Kilimanjaro International Airport (JRO), mistakenly lands at Arusha Airport (ARK). November 20, 2013 - A Boeing Dreamlifter, bound for McConnell Air Force Base in Wichita, Kansas, mistakenly lands at Jabara Airport (AAO). October 13, 2012 - A Sriwijaya Air 737, bound for Minangkabau International Airport in Padang, Indonesia (PDG), mistakenly lands at Tabing Airport, a military airfield. August 7, 2012 - A Silver Airways Saab 340B, bound for Clarksburg, West Virginia (CKB), mistakenly lands at Fairmont Municipal Airport (4G7). October 30, 2011 - An Azul Linhas Aereas E-195, bound for Teresina, Brazil (THE), mistakenly lands at Domingos Rego Airport in Timon. September 7, 2011 - A Colgan Air Saab 340, bound for Lakes Charles, Louisiana (LCH), mistakenly lands at Southland Field (L75) in Carlyss. September 13, 2010 - An Aeromexico MD-83, bound for Tuxtla, Mexico (TGZ), mistakenly lands at Francisco Sarabia/Teran Military Airport. The complete list is at http://www.thirdamendment.com/WrongWay.pdf And this one, from Perth Australia in the 1950's "They called tower when they were joining the circuit Tower replied: "Continue not in sight from the tower" Then they called when turning base - Tower replied "Cleared to land call on the ground" Vampire called "On ground now." Tower replied :"Not on this airfield you aren't." " Well they landed the plane didn't they? Can't see what the fuss is about ! 5555 Any landing you can walk away from eh? It's still the safest way to travel though. After all, in the 113 years since the first flight we've never left anyone up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsailor35 Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The pilots did the right thing here. When they discovered that neither had a driving licence, they pulled up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 The pilots did the right thing here. When they discovered that neither had a driving licence, they pulled up . Their fathers should have "pulled out". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Given the proximity/orientation/configuration of the multi lane section of the "Prabhu Dayal Marg", vis-a vis the runway, one can see how the mistake might be made. Especially in poor vis: “The pilots mistook the road running parallel to the runway as the runway and aligned with it. This was a very serious incident.” Unlike the list of incidents previously posted, they were at the correct location. (You will have to look at Google Earth yourself as I have no idea how to re-locate the image here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaosai Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I'll bet the heads of the two in the cockpit were doing a bit an extreme side shuffle What are those cars doing on the runway waddy waddy deeb deeb....bleep bleep Lol.The term, "Pay peanuts, get monkies" rings true. On 31 October 2000 Singapore Airlines 006 crashed in Taiwan after taking a wrong (closed) runway : the circumstances may have been different but I guess the passengers on SG006 did not "pay peanuts". Pilot error remains a serious cause of accidents regardless the fares paid by the passengers.I was actually referring to their 'wages' ie; nil, more so than the rediculously low air fares, but I understand your point nevertheless.I will counter to say, all humans make errors, only incompetent fools are more likely to make them. One of the first things I was taught when I started flying and it's a golden rule of aviation, 'Never let the aircraft take you anywhere your brain hasn't visited 5 minutes earlier' or words to that affect. It seems to be quite a good one but in 27 years of flying it's the first time I have ever heard of that golden rule. Pilots along with the vast majority of the population make errors every day in or out of work. It's the ones leading to potentially more serious consequences they need to avoid or trap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Anyone who has seen the lack of visibility caused by pollution in India should understand how easily this could happen and I am surprised it does not happen regularly in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 I'll bet the heads of the two in the cockpit were doing a bit an extreme side shuffleWhat are those cars doing on the runway waddy waddy deeb deeb....bleep bleepLol.The term, "Pay peanuts, get monkies" rings true. On 31 October 2000 Singapore Airlines 006 crashed in Taiwan after taking a wrong (closed) runway : the circumstances may have been different but I guess the passengers on SG006 did not "pay peanuts". Pilot error remains a serious cause of accidents regardless the fares paid by the passengers.I was actually referring to their 'wages' ie; nil, more so than the rediculously low air fares, but I understand your point nevertheless.I will counter to say, all humans make errors, only incompetent fools are more likely to make them.One of the first things I was taught when I started flying and it's a golden rule of aviation,'Never let the aircraft take you anywhere your brain hasn't visited 5 minutes earlier' or words to that affect. It seems to be quite a good one but in 27 years of flying it's the first time I have ever heard of that golden rule.Pilots along with the vast majority of the population make errors every day in or out of work. It's the ones leading to potentially more serious consequences they need to avoid or trap. Possibly an Australian thing.........strange humour theselads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijit Posted May 25, 2016 Share Posted May 25, 2016 Wow, some seriously scary stuff. Sent from my GT-I9000 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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