New Brexit polls suggest shift in favour of leaving the EU

[nontabury]

Greetings, ladies!

Did you miss me?

I've been hedging in case the lunatics got their way! OK, it's going to cost me a lot but I won't be severely damaged in case of Brexit

However, it looks like the sensible if silent majority are awakening. Betting is 3:1 against Brexit!

Baroness Warsi said it correctly. Too much hate and Xenophobia. Coupled with Gove's (he's a bit odd) blatant lies about Turkey. As a result, she's moved to remain

Did you see the car companies wading in? All pro EU. For reasons we've been trying to explain but with little success!

I worry what will happen to my personal spell checker after Thirsday?

She was never part of the campaign. Not well liked in her home town, considered 2 faced. You know she's one of those people you hate don't you?

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Well how did she get voted in? Who voted for her?

One thing for certain,it was a sad day for freedom of speech,which ever side of the argument you're on.

And because of the actions of this mentally unstable killer,two young girls are now without a mother.

And it has also allowed the remain side to throw unwarranted mud at Brexit. Maybe changing the result of this referendum. Ah well, such is life,but will British politics be the same. I think not.

[nontabury]

Greetings, ladies!

Did you miss me?

I've been hedging in case the lunatics got their way! OK, it's going to cost me a lot but I won't be severely damaged in case of Brexit

However, it looks like the sensible if silent majority are awakening. Betting is 3:1 against Brexit!

Baroness Warsi said it correctly. Too much hate and Xenophobia. Coupled with Gove's (he's a bit odd) blatant lies about Turkey. As a result, she's moved to remain

Did you see the car companies wading in? All pro EU. For reasons we've been trying to explain but with little success!

I worry what will happen to my personal spell checker after Thirsday?

Noticed you reading this thread throughout the week, without joining in,when it looked like Brexit was certain to win. Same as Keeping your head down in the trenches, while your mates defend your patch. Now when it looks like it may be a close call, you lead the charge in the hope of gaining all the glory.

I was suspended, I suspect, for being "unkind" to you and others!

So, wrong AND unpleasant again!

Laughable really ?

Are you going back to vote? Or are you letting others "defend your patch"

Unfortunately due to my declaring my residences in Thailand 15 yrs ago. I am not eligible to vote,this in spite of living in the UK for most of my life,even paying taxes there to this day and importantly still having close family there. Never mind I can watch none British citizens taking my place in the polling stations. Then in the future I can at least say that I am no way responsible, if remain do win, and then the shxt hits the fan.

[Diplomatico]

John Oliver with his take on the issue:

[nontabury]

Donald Tusk. President of the European Council

Tusk says EU needs to take 'long, hard look' at why it is unpopular

Donald Tusk, president of the European council, has issued a direct appeal to British voters to remain in the EU. Speaking on a visit to Portugal, he said the whole Western world would become weaker if Britain voted for Brexit.

I would like to appeal to the British citizens, on behalf, I know that for a fact, of almost all Europeans and European leaders: Stay with us.

Without you, not only Europe, but the whole Western community will become weaker. Together, we will be able to cope with increasingly difficult challenges of the future.

Tusk will chair a summit of EU leaders in Brussels next week and he said they were prepared for what might happen.

In no way are we downplaying the economic costs that would accompany Brexit ... I have no doubt, however, that we are already prepared for the day after the referendum.

He also said it was important for European leaders to consider why voters were getting disillusioned with the EU, not just in Britain but across the continent too.

Whatever [the referendum] result is going to be, we must take a long, hard look on the future of the Union. We would be foolish if we ignored such a warning signal as the UK referendum. There are more signals of dissatisfaction with the Union coming from all of Europe, not only from the UK.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/20/eu-referendum-live-warsi-leave-parliament-recalled-jo-cox

Too late Tusk.

As much as I dislike Cameron, that abortion of an excuse that you sent him scuttling back to the UK under the guise of a '' Deal '' showed the EU up for exactly what it is.

Do you really think people are going to believe you now.

Talking of belief,

You have stated that our rebate will cease and that we shall have to adopt the Euro in 2020?

Are you sure?

Really?

I don't recall the Sgt EVER saying that the UK will have to adopt the Euro in 2020,or at anytime in the future.

Although He has pointed out other important changes that are scheduled to take place in 2020 should the British people be deceived again,as in 1975.

[SheungWan]

I was really upset about poor Jo Cox

A real heroine!

Great that the by-election will not be contested.

Wrong Liberty GB are putting someone up.

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That someone might be member Paul Weston, former member of UKIP and previously founder member of the British Freedom Party which formed an alliance with the English Defence League. Classic fascist profile and nicely in tune with the accused murderer Thomas Mair.

[cumgranosalum]

So now all the British Motor industry has said they’d prefer to stay in the EU and Ford has sent 14000 letters to every employee outlining their reasons.

On top of that the Premier league have backed remain.....

In fact with the results so close - industry both here and abroad has BEGGED the people of Britain to vote remain.

So according to some politico-aficionados on this thread a “socialist conspiracy? _ I think not!

[kingalfred]

So now we going back to 19th century when the bosses told their employees who to vote for. Pathetic lies from big buainess

[beautifulthailand99]

It's all but over for the Leave camp - Britain is going to stay to Remain 1/4 on as against 3/1 for leave - if any of you leavers want to put your money where you keyboard currently is then here's your chance .......

http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/eu-referendum/referendum-on-eu-membership-result

[kingalfred]

And the Premier league telling us how to vote? Actually if the mugs who pay 1000s pounds to overpaid prima donnas are true to form they'll follow their masters!

[cumgranosalum]

And the Premier league telling us how to vote? Actually if the mugs who pay 1000s pounds to overpaid prima donnas are true to form they'll follow their masters!

you realise that's not a counter argument?

[cumgranosalum]

Why those outside the UK should worry about Brexit.

https://www.facebook.com/LastWeekTonight/videos/921269251335418/

[Guest]

For mobile client users, who don't always see the embedded tweets.

"Pro-Kremlin trolls are engaging in #Brexit campaign in support of Leave. Join us on 23/6 to uncover #Kremlinlies."

[tomacht8]

Soon, it is also the fault from the EU, when toilet paper is missing in UK toilets.

Edited June 20, 2016 by tomacht8

[SheungWan]

So now we going back to 19th century when the bosses told their employees who to vote for. Pathetic lies from big buainess

UK trade unions are recommending vote to Remain. Burn another cake.

[Grouse]

Greetings, ladies!

Did you miss me?

I've been hedging in case the lunatics got their way! OK, it's going to cost me a lot but I won't be severely damaged in case of Brexit

However, it looks like the sensible if silent majority are awakening. Betting is 3:1 against Brexit!

Baroness Warsi said it correctly. Too much hate and Xenophobia. Coupled with Gove's (he's a bit odd) blatant lies about Turkey. As a result, she's moved to remain

Did you see the car companies wading in? All pro EU. For reasons we've been trying to explain but with little success!

I worry what will happen to my personal spell checker after Thirsday?

She was never part of the campaign. Not well liked in her home town, considered 2 faced. You know she's one of those people you hate don't you?

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I don't hate anybody.

She gave a great interview today, explains that she wanted a positive Brexit campaign - hello world, she called it

Actually, we share something. We both understand that this is a complex issue. There are pros and cons

BUT it's hatred and loathing that has lost it for the Brexiteers.

What I don't buy is how easily she turned. The fundamental principles between Remain and Leave are so great that her previous position could surely not have been based on ideological grounds. I am sure that most people on both sides wished for a positive campaign - do you simply ditch your political convictions because you don't like some of your fellow supporters? Surely the more believable approach would be to put clear water between you and them, but stand for what you believe in - unless you never really believed in it in the first place.

She has been seriously eurosceptic for years, but had a positive view. She believes the UK would do better alone. I disagree. But I do agree that the democracy in the EU is lacking.

She was turned off by some of the more unpleasant Brexit types and declined to share a stage with people like that. Finally, Nigel's appalling poster and Gove's (he's a bit odd) lies pushed her over the edge. I'll be she's not alone!

[Grouse]

Donald Tusk. President of the European Council

Tusk says EU needs to take 'long, hard look' at why it is unpopular

Donald Tusk, president of the European council, has issued a direct appeal to British voters to remain in the EU. Speaking on a visit to Portugal, he said the whole Western world would become weaker if Britain voted for Brexit.

I would like to appeal to the British citizens, on behalf, I know that for a fact, of almost all Europeans and European leaders: Stay with us.

Without you, not only Europe, but the whole Western community will become weaker. Together, we will be able to cope with increasingly difficult challenges of the future.

Tusk will chair a summit of EU leaders in Brussels next week and he said they were prepared for what might happen.

In no way are we downplaying the economic costs that would accompany Brexit ... I have no doubt, however, that we are already prepared for the day after the referendum.

He also said it was important for European leaders to consider why voters were getting disillusioned with the EU, not just in Britain but across the continent too.

Whatever [the referendum] result is going to be, we must take a long, hard look on the future of the Union. We would be foolish if we ignored such a warning signal as the UK referendum. There are more signals of dissatisfaction with the Union coming from all of Europe, not only from the UK.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2016/jun/20/eu-referendum-live-warsi-leave-parliament-recalled-jo-cox

Too late Tusk.

As much as I dislike Cameron, that abortion of an excuse that you sent him scuttling back to the UK under the guise of a '' Deal '' showed the EU up for exactly what it is.

Do you really think people are going to believe you now.

Talking of belief,

You have stated that our rebate will cease and that we shall have to adopt the Euro in 2020?

Are you sure?

Really?

I don't recall the Sgt EVER saying that the UK will have to adopt the Euro in 2020,or at anytime in the future.

Although He has pointed out other important changes that are scheduled to take place in 2020 should the British people be deceived again,as in 1975.

Such as?

I've been researching this you see....

[Grouse]

I was really upset about poor Jo Cox

A real heroine!

Great that the by-election will not be contested.

Wrong Liberty GB are putting someone up.

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That someone might be member Paul Weston, former member of UKIP and previously founder member of the British Freedom Party which formed an alliance with the English Defence League. Classic fascist profile and nicely in tune with the accused murderer Thomas Mair.

Dreadful. Sometimes I am ashamed to be British ?

[Thaiwine]

I was just looking for latest polls on Brexit the first one I looked at was the Daily Mirror

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/eu-referendum-britain-poll-2016-7699714

I scrolled down and found where you could vote,

WARNING REMAINIANS DO NOT ATTEMPT THIS

It just goes to say you known the bit about "pride before you fall"

[beautifulthailand99]

It's over bar the vote....now we will never get to know if trading with the Commonwealth would have made a difference (total combined trade of Her Majesties favourite club is less than that of Luxembourg. Cameron has nearly crashed the car twice now - time for him to go.

Global stocks, sterling surge as Brexit momentum weakens in polls

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/921908-new-brexit-polls-suggest-shift-in-favour-of-leaving-the-eu/page-58

[cumgranosalum]

could be just pissing in the wind anyway....

http://blogs.ft.com/david-allen-green/2016/06/14/can-the-united-kingdom-government-legally-disregard-a-vote-for-brexit/

Edited June 20, 2016 by cumgranosalum

[Mosha]

I was really upset about poor Jo Cox

A real heroine!

Great that the by-election will not be contested.

Wrong Liberty GB are putting someone up.

Sent from my SMART_4G_Speedy_5inch using Tapatalk

That someone might be member Paul Weston, former member of UKIP and previously founder member of the British Freedom Party which formed an alliance with the English Defence League. Classic fascist profile and nicely in tune with the accused murderer Thomas Mair.

Dreadful. Sometimes I am ashamed to be British

I can't find it just now. An ex BNP leader, who left them because they are too racist. His words more or less.

Edit

OK found it. Jack Busby.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jo-cox-death-labour-mp-seat-batley-and-spen-by-election-liberty-gb-bnp-jack-buckby-a7091141.html

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Edited June 20, 2016 by Mosha

[teatree]

Sadly, it seems the murder of Jo Cox has swung the vote firmly in Remain's favour. They have capitalized on the murder - 'never let a serious crisis go to waste', as Rahm Emanuel once said.

The Remain campaign has flung its usual mud at the Brexiters, but this time they have managed to make it stick, due to the public feeling emotional about recent events. Brexit supporter = Nazi, Racist, Xenophobe, blah, blah blah.

It's a pity but the referendum will be decided by hearts not brains.

Edited June 21, 2016 by teatree

[Grouse]

Sadly, it seems the murder of Jo Cox has swung the vote firmly in Remain's favour. They have capitalized on the murder - 'never let a serious crisis go to waste', as Rahm Emanuel once said.

The Remain campaign has flung its usual mud at the Brexiters, but this time they have managed to make it stick, due to the public feeling emotional about recent events. Brexit supporter = Nazi, Racist, Xenophobe, blah, blah blah.

It's a pity but the referendum will be decided by hearts not brains.

Both actually ?

[brewsterbudgen]

Sadly, it seems the murder of Jo Cox has swung the vote firmly in Remain's favour. They have capitalized on the murder - 'never let a serious crisis go to waste', as Rahm Emanuel once said.

The Remain campaign has flung its usual mud at the Brexiters, but this time they have managed to make it stick, due to the public feeling emotional about recent events. Brexit supporter = Nazi, Racist, Xenophobe, blah, blah blah.

It's a pity but the referendum will be decided by hearts not brains.

What you write may have had some effect, but if Remain win I believe it will be more to do with the strength of its economic argument. People usually vote with their wallets!

[brewsterbudgen]

Duplicate post

Edited June 21, 2016 by brewsterbudgen

[SgtRock]

I posted extracts from this in another thread.

I think it provides a realistic insight into the duplicity that has already taken place, and will continue to take place regarding the EU.

Few people, however, fully appreciated the extent to which the EEC was less the benign economic arrangement they imagined and much more a political project. True, there were those during the 1975 referendum campaign who made this point; but they went largely unheeded. The national sense was that we were in a free trading area of independent nation states that would help our exporters, create jobs and allow everyone to get richer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/06/20/vote-leave-to-benefit-from-a-world-of-opportunity/

The very hub of the problem.

[Jip99]

I posted extracts from this in another thread.

I think it provides a realistic insight into the duplicity that has already taken place, and will continue to take place regarding the EU.

Few people, however, fully appreciated the extent to which the EEC was less the benign economic arrangement they imagined and much more a political project. True, there were those during the 1975 referendum campaign who made this point; but they went largely unheeded. The national sense was that we were in a free trading area of independent nation states that would help our exporters, create jobs and allow everyone to get richer.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/2016/06/20/vote-leave-to-benefit-from-a-world-of-opportunity/

The very hub of the problem.

The Who had a great record "We Won't Get Fooled Again".

Looks like they were wrong.

[Ace of Pop]

There are lots of Plastic Brits who can Vote,so I recon they will sway the Vote to stay.Old Brits want regulate aliens just as Thailand sensibly does.

[nontabury]

I was really upset about poor Jo Cox

A real heroine!

Great that the by-election will not be contested.

Wrong Liberty GB are putting someone up.

Sent from my SMART_4G_Speedy_5inch using Tapatalk

That someone might be member Paul Weston, former member of UKIP and previously founder member of the British Freedom Party which formed an alliance with the English Defence League. Classic fascist profile and nicely in tune with the accused murderer Thomas Mair.

Dreadful. Sometimes I am ashamed to be British ?

It would seem you are again accepting wrong information. Nothing whatsoever to do with UKIP. See Mosha's post 1449.

Edited June 21, 2016 by nontabury

[nontabury]

There are lots of Plastic Brits who can Vote,so I recon they will sway the Vote to stay.Old Brits want regulate aliens just as Thailand sensibly does.

Unlike many farangs here in Thailand, I do accept that I am a second class resident. What I will never accept,is the knowledge that I am a second class citizen of the U.K.