webfact Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Security guard industry now suffers man power shortageBANGKOK: -- A law that regulates the security guards sector and it took effect in March this year has dealt a severe blow on the industry with many operators complaining that about 40 percent of their guards had resigned as they didn't meet the required qualifications stated by the law.A major qualification that most guards were disqualified is the educational background.The law states that the security guard must have a minimum qualification of Mathayomsuksa 3 level (Grade 9) education, and must be a Thai national and is at least 18-year-old. Besides the qualified guard must not have an imprisonment record for convicted crimal offence such as body assault, theft, gambling and drug.Mr Somchai Sookpong, a security guard for 12 years who only has Pathomsueksa 6-level of education, admitted that he has to work 12 hours a day and don’t know how to find the spare time to attend a special course on security affairs in lieu of upgrading his education as legally required.Managing director of Lanna Solution Guards, Mr Narongrit Ornmanee, said the stringent qualifications had forced about 40% of his guards, mostly hilltribe people, to resign.This has resulted in man power shortage in the industry, he said.Security Guard Management Association president Vachara Chaichana said most people from northern hill areas have no identification card.The law not only discourages these people from working but also not promote the industry, he said.Security Guard Industry Operators Association president Maj Yuthasak Kaeokamsaen also voiced that the law has affected the livelihood of over 1.5 million of operators, employees, and the people using security guard service. Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/security-guard-industry-now-suffers-man-power-shortage/ -- Thai PBS 2016-06-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I thought it was a job reserved for Cambodians and Burmese, obviously most Thai nationals do not work for peanuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxLee Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's a boring job,....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slapout Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Guess the wifes cousin will be jobless as he was sent home from the school at the temple after taking the same grade 3 years. This was after public school said he was a waste of space and just disupted the other students from learning. His father gave up on him helping on the farm, but he stumbled on and was hired as a security man for a bank and has held it for a couple years. I asked if they gave him real ammo as they issued a firearm to him, but unless he stays under the radar, it sounds like he will be one of the 40% out of a job. he will be mucking out a pig pen or getting into legal problems ( I bet the latter) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 (edited) why don't they offer up training courses like they do in developed countries so that these people can be trained and take some pride in their jobs, sending them back to school is not the answer, they need to offer them an effective education/training path with a recognised qualification perhaps in dedicated training facilities designed for security staff and door men Edited June 20, 2016 by smedly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skildpadden Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Quite sad actually. These jobs has been a way for many people to get a decent job without too many educational qualifications - where are these people now going to find new employment?To be honest do you really need 9 years of school to blow a whistle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceruhe Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 ...can we have a law to regulate police sector? I mean, you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pomthai Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Governments should be giving the people and creating opportunities not taking them away. I agree with criminal background checks but level of education ought to be irrelavent. Soon you'll need a diploma to be a Taxi driver and a degree to put tins of paint on the shelf in a hardware store. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Lol. they didn't think that through very well did they? with very low pay and week end, night hours. Why would anyone with a matayom 3 education take such a job. The criminal check should be enough. How much education do you need to write down a licence plate number. Seriously, what were they thinking? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Governments should be giving the people and creating opportunities not taking them away. I agree with criminal background checks but level of education ought to be irrelavent. Soon you'll need a diploma to be a Taxi driver and a degree to put tins of paint on the shelf in a hardware store. Well actually. ... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 why don't they offer up training courses like they do in developed countries so that these people can be trained and take some pride in their jobs, sending them back to school is not the answer, they need to offer them an effective education/training path with a recognised qualification perhaps in dedicated training facilities designed for security staff and door menAn excellent, practical idea that would benefit everyone, so don't expect it to happen for a good number of years if at all.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 The funny thing is the crime rate will probably go down, most of these guys are useless at best anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 It's a boring job,....... so thats why they are always asleep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Lol. they didn't think that through very well did they? with very low pay and week end, night hours. Why would anyone with a matayom 3 education take such a job. The criminal check should be enough. How much education do you need to write down a licence plate number. Seriously, what were they thinking? ? thats not the problem.........its which end of the pencil to use................i know its insulting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 this is how the Chinese will be tackling the problem in the future -no sleeping on the job for AnBot China Unveils Weaponized Robot Security Guard http://www.newsweek.com/robot-security-guard-anbot-robotics-452934 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smutcakes Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 why don't they offer up training courses like they do in developed countries so that these people can be trained and take some pride in their jobs, sending them back to school is not the answer, they need to offer them an effective education/training path with a recognised qualification perhaps in dedicated training facilities designed for security staff and door menAn excellent, practical idea that would benefit everyone, so don't expect it to happen for a good number of years if at all.. The problem companies have training them is that they are liable to walk down the road to another company offering them 100 baht more, after they have invested the time and money training them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 Training is the answer, some kind of entry level qualification, paid for by the company. I don't know how you deal with the poaching issue, but I'm sure there must be some way of tying them to the company for a minimum period. Anyhow, they wirked it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 With the doormen in the UK. Liaison with the local police is also a big issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amja Posted June 20, 2016 Share Posted June 20, 2016 I guess all the guys are becoming cops these days! Amja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 There's no manpower-shortage, it's just that when the roll was called, half of them were asleep so failed to respond ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 The only disqualification for security guard in Thailand that I can think of would be, insomniac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little mary sunshine Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 (edited) Paid to sleep and do as little as possible. Like the Soi dogs, all I see is them do is eat and sleep.....security 555555555. Edited June 21, 2016 by little mary sunshine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 You need 9th grade education to open and close a gate???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdkane Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Quite sad actually. These jobs has been a way for many people to get a decent job without too many educational qualifications - where are these people now going to find new employment? To be honest do you really need 9 years of school to blow a whistle? I think you make a very good point...there has to be respectable and viable employment options for honest people who have not had educational opportunity...with the only option being back breaking labor for those born into privilege, I'm sure many will be drawn to illegal activities...with the population of out of work young men looking to blame someone for their lot in life, these policies will ultimately make farang the target of misplaced frustrations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 You need 9th grade education to open and close a gate???? our security guards already failed with that repeatedly at 3 am in the morning...............instead i hear the noise of a slumbering pig as i open it right by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 I suspect if the same educational employment qualification requirements applied to politicians and bureaucrats many of them would be out of a job. The best qualification one can have for those jobs is to have a powerful friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 suggest they start using "woman power" instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Arab Gulf countries had security guard requirements in place but nobody gave a toss about it until the last 10 years or so, which saw many governments taking steps to improve the sector. Once the teeth started to sink in, this drove many of the fly by night "security" companies and some dodgy manpower suppliers who couldn't cope, out of business. Many GCC countries now have similar HR hiring standards and mandatory basic training courses tied in with City & Guilds. It all started like a fart in church just like Thailand's current effort. As with many good ideas in Thailand though, many fall apart with a lack of serious resolve, enforcement and follow through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 Moral of the story... at least finish grade 9, kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 ...that would explain a lot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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