An officer dies after he was forced to run under the sun as a punishment

THAILAND -- An army corporal who collapsed and then hospitalized after he was ordered by his superior to run under the scorching sun as a punishment died on Wednesday at Phra Mongkut military hospital.

Corporal Panya Ngernrian who was attached to third infantry battalion of the 19th infantry regiment based in Surasee barrack in Kanchanaburi was penalized by his immediate superior by forcing him to run under the hot sun until he collapsed reportedly from heat stroke.

The corporal was initially admitted to a hospital in the camp on June 10 but his condition did not improve, so he was transferred to Phra Mongkut military hospital in Bangkok for treatment.

However, Panya who never regained consciousness was pronounced dead on Wednesday. His body was taken by his family members to his hometown in Kanchanaburi for funeral.

It was reported that the army had ordered an investigation into the case.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/officer-dies-forced-run-sun-punishment/

-- Thai PBS 2016-06-24

So the army will investigate? I guess we already know the outcome of that investigation then.

The only surprise here is that this was reported.

"Corporal" punishment with a tragic outcome - at the very least the superior is guilty of a complete disregard for his duty of care to the people under him.

While this doesn't only happen in Thailand, it simply shouldn't happen in any military - anywhere!

Let's hope appropriate discipline is metered out to the so-called superior. Full kit, and a long run under the hot sun would seem fitting - he can only hope his superior is more attuned to his responsibilities than he was.

"Corporal" punishment with a tragic outcome - at the very least the superior is guilty of a complete disregard for his duty of care to the people under him.

While this doesn't only happen in Thailand, it simply shouldn't happen in any military - anywhere!

Let's hope appropriate discipline is metered out to the so-called superior. Full kit, and a long run under the hot sun would seem fitting - he can only hope his superior is more attuned to his responsibilities than he was.

What a waste of a young person life but I know this is something that happens in the UK army. I think they call it "beasting" . Hard exercise in the hills during hot weather. Soldiers exercising with wet suits on in the heat etc. Sometimes as a punishment sometimes as normal training but with a total disregard to the weather conditions.

I am not sure how a corporal can be an officer. Maybe everyone from private up is called an officer in the Thai Army.

I am sure General Prayut has lost a good man but this will be a test for the General to see how much he cares for and values his troops. A second round of punishment seems deserved.

"Corporal" punishment with a tragic outcome - at the very least the superior is guilty of a complete disregard for his duty of care to the people under him.

While this doesn't only happen in Thailand, it simply shouldn't happen in any military - anywhere!

Let's hope appropriate discipline is metered out to the so-called superior. Full kit, and a long run under the hot sun would seem fitting - he can only hope his superior is more attuned to his responsibilities than he was.

What a waste of a young person life but I know this is something that happens in the UK army. I think they call it "beasting" . Hard exercise in the hills during hot weather. Soldiers exercising with wet suits on in the heat etc. Sometimes as a punishment sometimes as normal training but with a total disregard to the weather conditions.

Yeah, guess running in an English summer with a max. temp, of maybe 25 / 26 compared to Thailand upwards of 35 plus 90% humidity is a fair comparison.

"Corporal" punishment with a tragic outcome - at the very least the superior is guilty of a complete disregard for his duty of care to the people under him.

While this doesn't only happen in Thailand, it simply shouldn't happen in any military - anywhere!

Let's hope appropriate discipline is metered out to the so-called superior. Full kit, and a long run under the hot sun would seem fitting - he can only hope his superior is more attuned to his responsibilities than he was.

What a waste of a young person life but I know this is something that happens in the UK army. I think they call it "beasting" . Hard exercise in the hills during hot weather. Soldiers exercising with wet suits on in the heat etc. Sometimes as a punishment sometimes as normal training but with a total disregard to the weather conditions.

Yeah, guess running in an English summer with a max. temp, of maybe 25 / 26 compared to Thailand upwards of 35 plus 90% humidity is a fair comparison.

The Uk military also train outside of the UK.

I am not sure how a corporal can be an officer. Maybe everyone from private up is called an officer in the Thai Army.

Better attention getting headline...it's all about getting you to read/click on the article....each click is worth a little money.

Thks for the tip.

I just wonder what grueling crime he comitted to be forced to run to his death!

Amja

"Corporal" punishment with a tragic outcome - at the very least the superior is guilty of a complete disregard for his duty of care to the people under him.

While this doesn't only happen in Thailand, it simply shouldn't happen in any military - anywhere!

Let's hope appropriate discipline is metered out to the so-called superior. Full kit, and a long run under the hot sun would seem fitting - he can only hope his superior is more attuned to his responsibilities than he was.

What a waste of a young person life but I know this is something that happens in the UK army. I think they call it "beasting" . Hard exercise in the hills during hot weather. Soldiers exercising with wet suits on in the heat etc. Sometimes as a punishment sometimes as normal training but with a total disregard to the weather conditions.

Yeah, guess running in an English summer with a max. temp, of maybe 25 / 26 compared to Thailand upwards of 35 plus 90% humidity is a fair comparison.

The Uk military also train outside of the UK.

It was a rhetorical comment ?

Any hard physical exercise out of doors in Thailand should only be undertaken when the body is fully hydrated, and that state can be maintained by steady re-hydration. If you are dehydrated and trying to exercise, the body will start to shut down, and tell you to drink and seek shade. If the warning signs [extreme fatigue, numbness in the extremities, headache etc] are ignored, heat stroke will occur.

Could be worse : from yahoo :

https://www.yahoo.com/news/australia-panel-hears-stories-teen-141621072.html

"Corporal" punishment with a tragic outcome - at the very least the superior is guilty of a complete disregard for his duty of care to the people under him.

While this doesn't only happen in Thailand, it simply shouldn't happen in any military - anywhere!

Let's hope appropriate discipline is metered out to the so-called superior. Full kit, and a long run under the hot sun would seem fitting - he can only hope his superior is more attuned to his responsibilities than he was.

What a waste of a young person life but I know this is something that happens in the UK army. I think they call it "beasting" . Hard exercise in the hills during hot weather. Soldiers exercising with wet suits on in the heat etc. Sometimes as a punishment sometimes as normal training but with a total disregard to the weather conditions.

Perhaps you meant- with a total disregard to the human body which must maintain an operating temperature of 37C. Insanity, stupidity or just ignorance?

I am not sure how a corporal can be an officer. Maybe everyone from private up is called an officer in the Thai Army.

I am sure General Prayut has lost a good man but this will be a test for the General to see how much he cares for and values his troops. A second round of punishment seems deserved.

Probably they'll defend it by noting that a corporal is an NCO - non-commissioned officer. Thailand does love to exaggerate - Thais are like children in many ways.

This from wiki:

The NCO corps usually includes all grades of corporal and sergeant; in some countries, warrant officers also carry out the duties of NCOs.

Calling a corporal an 'officer' though, would be very unprofessional as well as inaccurate.

W

"Corporal" punishment with a tragic outcome - at the very least the superior is guilty of a complete disregard for his duty of care to the people under him.

While this doesn't only happen in Thailand, it simply shouldn't happen in any military - anywhere!

Let's hope appropriate discipline is metered out to the so-called superior. Full kit, and a long run under the hot sun would seem fitting - he can only hope his superior is more attuned to his responsibilities than he was.

What a waste of a young person life but I know this is something that happens in the UK army. I think they call it "beasting" . Hard exercise in the hills during hot weather. Soldiers exercising with wet suits on in the heat etc. Sometimes as a punishment sometimes as normal training but with a total disregard to the weather conditions.

Yeah, guess running in an English summer with a max. temp, of maybe 25 / 26 compared to Thailand upwards of 35 plus 90% humidity is a fair comparison.

I think the comparison is both uk and Thai soldiers die from over exercise, bodies over heating, becoming unconscious and never recovering. Probably medically identical and the last British case I heard about was some unfortunate guy being basically exercised to death as a punishment.

A quick google.. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/08/beasting-killed-soldier-gavin-williams-unlawful-coroner-rules

Should soldiers exercice in aircondition room?

The article is really light on details, so it's hard to conclude that the soldier was "put to death" by running.

Over the last couple of years, there has been at least 2-3 instances where young men attending international school in Bangkok died in similar situation (heat exhaustion).

And being a soldier is still a dangerous activity ...

It's surprising this doesn't happen more at the schools when the children are made to stand long in the sun so some teacher sitting in the shade can hear their own voice and feel important

What? He was admitted to hospital on the 10th June and it took 12 days to die from heatstroke?

Am I missing something here?

I just wonder what grueling crime he comitted to be forced to run to his death!

Amja

Just thinking that myself--------- have I missed something?

RIP the young corporal. I think the term officer is used to mean office-holder as someone who has sworn an oath to defend his country rather than as a rank. Police in some countries, eg UK hold the office of constable under the Crown whatever their rank and are often referred to as police officers.

RIP the young corporal. I think the term officer is used to mean office-holder as someone who has sworn an oath to defend his country rather than as a rank. Police in some countries, eg UK hold the office of constable under the Crown whatever their rank and are often referred to as police officers.

they are but Army are not but this is besides the point? RiP and the bullying needs to stop

"Corporal" punishment with a tragic outcome - at the very least the superior is guilty of a complete disregard for his duty of care to the people under him.

While this doesn't only happen in Thailand, it simply shouldn't happen in any military - anywhere!

Let's hope appropriate discipline is metered out to the so-called superior. Full kit, and a long run under the hot sun would seem fitting - he can only hope his superior is more attuned to his responsibilities than he was.

What a waste of a young person life but I know this is something that happens in the UK army. I think they call it "beasting" . Hard exercise in the hills during hot weather. Soldiers exercising with wet suits on in the heat etc. Sometimes as a punishment sometimes as normal training but with a total disregard to the weather conditions.

Moronic macho bullshit whatever the country, whatever the military. The poor fellow would have been literally cooking inside. R.I.P.

So the army will investigate? I guess we already know the outcome of that investigation then.

"Ours is not to reason why"?

The deaths during training in the Thai military is not well known, but from the reports that have been made public would seem

excessive in any mans army. They train in extreme heat and are not allowed access to fluids to keep themselves hydrated and that is when heat stroke becomes common. One officer in working with ''special force '' training made mention of a mortality rate of some

where between 2 and 3 % and did not seem concerned.

It would appear the military officer core has qualifications along the same line as teachers, politicans, drivers of vehicles, etc , just like the rest of the country. If the man laid in bed for several days after admission he might have had a blood clot form and that is what he died from. Most hospitals in the real world give injections each day to prevent formation of blood clots, after 4 or 5 days, if

the patient is comotose.

I had to ask a nurse and finally talk to a doctor to get this done, in what is considered a good hospital in CM.

I just wonder what grueling crime he comitted to be forced to run to his death!

Amja

Just thinking that myself--------- have I missed something?

"You can't handle the truth"? (A few good men)

"effects on the internal organs may take 2 months to a year. However, the prognosis rapidly declines as complications increase. The brain and other organs (lungs, liver, kidneys) can be permanently damaged, thus causing long term effects on the person's health. Damage is caused by swelling due to heating and other mechanisms, so the prognosis in these patients may range from fair to poor".

http://www.emedicinehealth.com/heat_stroke/page4_em.htm#heat_stroke_prognosis_and_long_term_effects

Edited June 25, 201610 yr by silent

Not unique to Thailand. This same thing happens all around the world for different reasons. The military is no walk in the park and soldiers are not treated as such. We don't know the entire story and never will. While I was on Parris Island for 13 weeks there were 3 recruit deaths. 1 drowning, 1 head trauma, and 1 suicide. The DIs there make sure you are well hydrated. Every 2 hours you drink a full canteen and hold it upside down over your head so the DI can take a quick look and make sure the platoon has actually drank the full canteen. Parris Island in June is not really any different than Thailand. Temperatures in the 95 degrees F area and 80%+ humidity. Deaths during training are not uncommon and there is always the chance of punishment going a little to far. Maybe this same punishment wouldn't have bothered another person, but was enough to kill this one. RIP fellow soldier.

What? He was admitted to hospital on the 10th June and it took 12 days to die from heatstroke?

Am I missing something here?

Yes, I think you are.

No problem, I've corrected it for you (inserts in italics).

"He was admitted to a Thai hospital on the 10th June and treated by Thai doctors. it took 12 days to die from heatstroke?"

Poor guy, 12 days to die from heatstroke, that's not nice.

W

Edited June 25, 201610 yr by Winniedapu

The deaths during training in the Thai military is not well known, but from the reports that have been made public would seem

excessive in any mans army. They train in extreme heat and are not allowed access to fluids to keep themselves hydrated and that is when heat stroke becomes common. One officer in working with ''special force '' training made mention of a mortality rate of some

where between 2 and 3 % and did not seem concerned.

It would appear the military officer core has qualifications along the same line as teachers, politicans, drivers of vehicles, etc , just like the rest of the country. If the man laid in bed for several days after admission he might have had a blood clot form and that is what he died from. Most hospitals in the real world give injections each day to prevent formation of blood clots, after 4 or 5 days, if

the patient is comotose.

I had to ask a nurse and finally talk to a doctor to get this done, in what is considered a good hospital in CM.

"They train in extreme heat and are not allowed access to fluids to keep themselves hydrated"

Seriously? That sounds like manslaughter or worse to me...

Normal for Thailand though if what you say is true.

W

When I was on a run in the military, we used to kick the dead aside and keep on going. Those were the good old days when men were men.