Quitting Alcohol YouTube Channel

[Phantom4]

For anyone, that doesn't want to go down the AA route to give up Alcohol forever.

Or if you would like to detox from Alcohol for a few months, or if you are already a non-drinker for years, I find this Youtube Channel "AlocholMasteryTV" very good.

Useful, honest, wise information.

Week One -

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Three Years Later - A Different Man!

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Edited July 19, 2016 by Phantom4

[Johnniey]

Can't see week 1

BTW, why mention AA? This is for people who CAN'T quit by themselves, i.e alcoholics(those who get DTs when they stop drinking). Not for people who drink too much but can stop with their own willpower, to make themselves look better, lose weight, save a job etc.

Edited July 23, 2016 by Johnniey

[Phantom4]

Can't see week 1

BTW, why mention AA? This is for people who CAN'T quit by themselves, i.e alcoholics(those who get DTs when they stop drinking). Not for people who drink too much but can stop with their own willpower, to make themselves look better, lose weight, save a job etc.

Nothing against AA but I can see on this part of the forum some people are hesitant or maybe it is not for everyone, this Guy in the Videos didn't use AA so whatever floats people boats.

Week one showing on my side, try refreshing the page, (pressing F5) you probably know that, thanks.

Edited July 23, 2016 by Phantom4

[Dagnabbit]

Can't see week 1

BTW, why mention AA? This is for people who CAN'T quit by themselves, i.e alcoholics(those who get DTs when they stop drinking). Not for people who drink too much but can stop with their own willpower, to make themselves look better, lose weight, save a job etc.

There's often many solutions to the same problem.

AA works for some people but not for others.

According to AA, alcoholism is a progressive disease. With that in mind, surely you can be an alcoholic in the early stages of the disease and not have DTs?

Also, according to AA, only the alcoholic can diagnose themselves. So how is it that you think you can diagnose somebody as not being an alcoholic?

You seem to be very narrow minded on this topic. It's great that AA worked for you (if indeed you have stopped) but it is not the only way. It is also not up to you to diagnose whether people are alcoholics or not, not matter what stage they are at.

At the end of the day - it's not a competition. You treat AA like it's your favorite football team and that anything else is the opposition.

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[Johnniey]

Can't see week 1

BTW, why mention AA? This is for people who CAN'T quit by themselves, i.e alcoholics(those who get DTs when they stop drinking). Not for people who drink too much but can stop with their own willpower, to make themselves look better, lose weight, save a job etc.

There's often many solutions to the same problem.

AA works for some people but not for others.

According to AA, alcoholism is a progressive disease. With that in mind, surely you can be an alcoholic in the early stages of the disease and not have DTs?

Also, according to AA, only the alcoholic can diagnose themselves. So how is it that you think you can diagnose somebody as not being an alcoholic?

You seem to be very narrow minded on this topic. It's great that AA worked for you (if indeed you have stopped) but it is not the only way. It is also not up to you to diagnose whether people are alcoholics or not, not matter what stage they are at.

At the end of the day - it's not a competition. You treat AA like it's your favorite football team and that anything else is the opposition.

According to AA, alcoholism is a progressive disease. With that in mind, surely you can be an alcoholic in the early stages of the disease and not have DTs?

Why would someone in the early stages want to stop?

Also, according to AA, only the alcoholic can diagnose themselves. So how is it that you think you can diagnose somebody as not being an alcoholic?

Just because AA says so, doesn't make it fact. I thin I know if someone else is an alkie because I am one.

You seem to be very narrow minded on this topic. It's great that AA worked for you (if indeed you have stopped) but it is not the only way. It is also not up to you to diagnose whether people are alcoholics or not, not matter what stage they are at.

Not narrow-minded at all. I have stopped for many years, have you? Am i not entitled to my opinion if someone is an alkie or not? there are experts who give criteria for this btw.

If you are an alcoholic you will have 3 of the following criteria:-

http://en.wikipedia....ohol_dependence

Definition and diagnosis[edit]

According to the DSM-IV(Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders published by the American Psychiatric Association) criteria for alcohol dependence, at least three out of seven of the following criteria must be manifest during a 12 month period:

1 - Tolerance

2 - Withdrawal symptoms or clinically defined Alcohol Withdrawal Syndrome

3 - Use in larger amounts or for longer periods than intended

4 - Persistent desire or unsuccessful efforts to cut down on alcohol use

5 - Time is spent obtaining alcohol or recovering from effects

6 - Social, occupational and recreational pursuits are given up or reduced because of alcohol use

7 - Use is continued despite knowledge of alcohol-related harm (physical or psychological)

At the end of the day - it's not a competition. You treat AA like it's your favorite football team and that anything else is the opposition.

Please point out where I have said anything of the sort.

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