How many western man live in thailand and are happy

[JJGreen]

1 hour ago, SoiBiker said:

 

Many of the younger crowd are women too, so they're generally not here for the local girls. There are loads of young couples travelling together - just go to any (non sex-related) tourist area and you'll see them all over the place. 

 

Plenty of younger expats come here to work real jobs, too, not just the cliche of the 'digital nomad'.

 

This forum presents such a limited, weird view of the expat world, I sometimes wonder if I live in the same country as the rest of you!

 

Dude...real jobs? You are getting old in attitude.

There are digital nomad guys making an absolute bomb doing jobs that are real to them

[MyFrenU]

3 minutes ago, JJGreen said:

 

Dude...real jobs? You are getting old in attitude.

There are digital nomad guys making an absolute bomb doing jobs that are real to them

He claims to have so many friends outside of this forum yet all his observations are based on what you read on this forum,the Walter Mitty of Thai Visa!

[SoiBiker]

5 minutes ago, JJGreen said:

 

Dude...real jobs? You are getting old in attitude.

There are digital nomad guys making an absolute bomb doing jobs that are real to them

 

I don't mean to imply that online work isn't a real job - I just used the phrase to mean an actual, get dressed and go to the office type of job. Perhaps I could have chosen a better phrase to use. 

[Scotwight]

19 minutes ago, SoiBiker said:

It's remarkable, isn't it?

Some people seem to come here, inhabit a really narrow quarter of the expat world, and think that is all there is to the place. Fair enough, live how you choose, but its odd to lack the observation or imagination required to understand that others choose to live differently.

What makes you or I or anyone more credible than another?  I find you odd.  But that's just me.  I can support what I'm saying by the posting history and statistics of the Thai Visa website.  I would not ask you to believe me and my personal experience.  Thai Visa reflects the average expat population of Thailand.  I would leave you to argue with Thai Visa that it does not.  As an aside it would be an interesting discussion.  Is Thai Visa representative of the expat community?  Yes or no?  I'd say yes. 

[JJGreen]

6 minutes ago, SoiBiker said:

 

I don't mean to imply that online work isn't a real job - I just used the phrase to mean an actual, get dressed and go to the office type of job. Perhaps I could have chosen a better phrase to use. 

 

Fair play. It was out of character with other postings of yours

[tropo]

On 8/14/2016 at 8:13 AM, georgemandm said:

I am very happy for you I am not having a go at thailand , ok just I can't handle it .

if you are happy good on you .

you have know idea what I do when I go to thailand and you are having a go at me you are so wrong.

one think you forget and lots of man do who live in thailand is if it was not for your western country you would not be in thailand to day .

You love thailand I like thailand but I can't live with the way things are done and you trying to tell me thailand is cheap now I think not I look at prices in thailand and my country and not much different and my thai partner tells me the same  

The problem with people being honest on these type of questions are the Thailand fanboys who get upset if anyone criticizes their adopted country and people and are then labelled "Thai bashers".

 

It becomes a Thai bashers vs Thai apologists battle.

 

Right now I can think of so many negative things about Thailand I wouldn't risk to comment. There are good things too, but the balance is tipping against it.

 

 

 

Edited August 21, 2016 by tropo

[Scotwight]

24 minutes ago, SoiBiker said:

I'm just reporting the reputation the forum has in the wider expat world. I'm well aware that there is more to the forum than this reputation might suggest - which is why its a shame that many avoid the place because of their perception of it - and the reception they're likely to receive here. 

 

The largest forum for Thai expats ought to be a place for all expats to use. Sadly, that's not really the case right now. 

You are here and I'm here.  I fail to see what kind of person avoids Thai Visa.  I think you are mistaken.  But feel free to correct me.  What kind of person gets a bad reception here?  (outside of Republicans and old guys with young wives)

[JJGreen]

3 minutes ago, Scotwight said:

What makes you or I or anyone more credible than another?  I find you odd.  But that's just me.  I can support what I'm saying by the posting history and statistics of the Thai Visa website.  I would not ask you to believe me and my personal experience.  Thai Visa reflects the average expat population of Thailand.  I would leave you to argue with Thai Visa that it does not.  As an aside it would be an interesting discussion.  Is Thai Visa representative of the expat community?  Yes or no?  I'd say yes. 

 

Its representative of a section...

 

When people discuss the expat community on thaivisa they do it as one encompassing group. 

Really It's a wide range of groups depending on the area of Thailand. Chiang mai expats are different than pattaya expats. Bangkok has large groups of dissimilar expats...areas of issan have little in common with bkk expats, etc. Etc.

Overall i dont think thaivisa active posters are a good representation.

[georgemandm]

1 minute ago, tropo said:

You said in your OP: Quote:

 

"what is good things about the place that make you stay full time and the truth please"  

 

LOL You're asking everyone else to tell you the truth when you can't disclose your own situation first and then get upset when someone asks?

 

You: Quote:

 

"you have know idea what I do when I go to thailand and you are having a go at me you are so wrong"

 

You go first. Tell us why you can't live here full time, then some of us might tell you their own truths.

 

What are you going on about again.

if I told you it would take days as you well know lots of sh?? Go's on here ok .

i just can't live full time what is wrong with that ?. 

That is the truth ok , plus I just go home and see how lucky I am to live in a great country like Australia.

sorry to say thailand is no way as good and can't not see thailand getting near it , I wish thailand was as good as my country and I mite be able to live full time here . 

 

[Scotwight]

3 minutes ago, JJGreen said:

 

Its representative of a section...

 

When people discuss the expat community on thaivisa they do it as one encompassing group. 

Really It's a wide range of groups depending on the area of Thailand. Chiang mai expats are different than pattaya expats. Bangkok has large groups of dissimilar expats...areas of issan have little in common with bkk expats, etc. Etc.

Overall i dont think thaivisa active posters are a good representation.

You have figured that out in 20 some days that you have been a member?  Impressive!

[JJGreen]

4 minutes ago, Scotwight said:

You have figured that out in 20 some days that you have been a member?  Impressive!

 

People can read thaivisa for years before signing up as a member

[lostinisaan]

She said that she'd love me too much and I really believed her when I wanted to pay the bar fine for the next five years

. ( Joking) 

 

       Noi, Lek and all the others are past and they all taught me how to survive in this environment without losing my endorsement and all my cash I worked for all my life.

 

   I went through several bar fined women, always paid in advance for usually a couple of weeks, sometimes thrice a year when I met Rin. Rin was the type of woman where men would think that you could change her behavior and she'd be the perfect  mother for your child. But, and that's the problem. There're too many butts here. 

 

       That went on for about 3 years and even telling her that I'd soon settle down, didn't change her lies.

We were already so far that she brought me to her village, of course a big party had to be done and of course did i pay for all, no matter if it was on the bill, or not. i guess some guys here already know what I'm on about with the signal "hey, the new ATM husband has arrived in all their eyes.

 

 The strings around your wrist might give you a good feeling that you're so special, but you're not. Once you've reached this point the insanity really starts and men lose their brains, replaced by a smaller or longer thingy. 

 

          I knew that she'd a son from a Thai guy, but that wasn't even a problem for me. Then I found out that she'd a knot in one of her tits and wanted to go to a hospital with her and pay for whatever had to be done. I really wanted to help her. 

 

Then the next lie. She told me that her doctor said that this knot would "go away" once she'll have her first child. ( Of course naming me as the daddy) I never told her that I understood some Thai and finally decided to let her go and get rid off that woman asap. 

 

         I hadn't lost  a lot of money but the constant lies were just too much for me. One day when went to Walking Street she pointed at a particular Go-Go bar and she started to give me a weird story that she worked there for "only" two weeks, but the cigarette smoke and the air conditioners finally led her to the decision to quit the job.

 

Of course did I knot know that.

 

  The idiot who was sending some cash every month thinking that she'd stop selling her body, it wasn't a lot but enough for her family and her. I thought that an agreement would also mean something for her, but my British friend who was the bar owner where she worked at, always told me the truth about her. And she always came up the opposite. 

 

       Of course did she never tell me that when I was in Europe, so I left her where we were and told her that the show would be over. But when I came back to my hotel, the clerk had already given her the key to my hotel room. Of course did she exactly know how to get my back, she had some crocodile tears in her eyes and some lies and i said okay, let's fragg. 

 

 My next flight was to Phuket, trying to get over the death of my mom who died in my arms and the damn East German ambulance driver couldn't find our house, only a minute away from the hospital. I had a nice resort near Khao Lak and just checked in when the phone rang.

 

   It was Rin, crying and telling me that she's at the Buri Ram hospital and they had just amputated one of her tits. She almost got me in her boat by telling me a lot of bs, that her brother would pick me up at the BR airport and considering how much she helped me once after a motorcycle accident, I was almost on my way to the airport.

 

     But I knew that nothing would change and Rin would never stop lying to me. I finally called her that I do not love her "anymore" and I won't come to Buri Ram, no matter how much pain she had. I also added that I'd delete her number and block her which I did.

     Then something happened that changed my whole life. I ran into a woman from lower north east who cleaned up bungalows for a Thai guy and served some beer in the evening, opposite the bungalows.

 

   I saw her walking across the road and said to myself that the man who's got this woman must be the happiest guy on earth.  Her English was almost nil, my Thai the same. But there's something I can only call love and we finally got together. She had  ason from a Thai guy but daddy had never seen his son, because she left him when she's pregnant. 

 

   The woman who cleaned bungalows down in Khao Lak is my wife now for 15 years and I haven't met a more sincere woman in my whole life before., excluding my mom.

 

 We're happily married since 15 years and I've left Thailand only twice, once for some urgently needed surgeries after a motorcycle accident when the local hospital messed all up and made my Tibia head look like a volcano. 

And the second time was when i tried to get my money back from my "best friend." He really thought I'm gone and he can keep 7 K Euros.

 

     Both times when I arrived at the airport I had the same feelings. It's like taking off a jacket with the name Germany on it. Then the first immigration officer's smile and a good joke from my side and I have the feeling that I'm back home.

 

   The whole point of my post is that you won't find love when you're looking for it. It usually happens when you don't expect it. 

 

   Love will meet you when you're not looking for it. And I can really say that I'm a happy man with the right partner.

    

         So yes, OP there are some guys who really love their wives, the country, the food and fruits and the easygoing attitude of Thai people. Even when I'm doing a few red lights from time to time now. 

 

   

           

 

   

 

        

 

     

     

 

        

[Testacall]

25 minutes ago, JJGreen said:

 

Fair play. It was out of character with other postings of yours

Bromance brewing ....

[tropo]

12 minutes ago, lostinisaan said:

 So yes, OP there are some guys who really love their wives, the country, the food and fruits and the easygoing attitude of Thai people. Even when I'm doing a few red lights from time to time now.  

You wrote a lot of stuff there, so you're obviously a big fan, but do you really think Thai people are easygoing? I think they're the opposite - aggressive, impatient and very quick to anger.   

 

I see you come from Germany. Perhaps people are very uptight there and Thais are relaxed by comparison.

Edited August 21, 2016 by tropo

[Testacall]

16 minutes ago, JJGreen said:

 

People can read thaivisa for years before signing up as a member

People can spend years trying to figure out how to sign up too !!

Edited August 21, 2016 by Testacall

[Scotwight]

Just now, Testacall said:

People can spend years trying how to sign up too !!

Impressive.

[Agent Sumo]

47 minutes ago, SoiBiker said:

 

It's remarkable, isn't it?

 

Some people seem to come here, inhabit a really narrow quarter of the expat world, and think that is all there is to the place. Fair enough, live how you choose, but its odd to lack the observation or imagination required to understand that others choose to live differently.

 

25 minutes ago, JJGreen said:

 

Or they dont admit to using the forum....seems to be a lot of guests online at any one time..i think a lot read the news section but offer no comments 

 

The credibility of this forum is pretty much non-existent on Thailand-oriented Facebook groups and other social media platforms.

 

I wouldn't admit to being a member for love nor money - when the now-defunct Thaivisa lounge was open, I'd sooner have died than socialise with the Mos Eisley Star Wars bar-type freaks I saw hanging around it.

 

The forum is full of, bitter disgruntled, bellicose misfits and serial victims bitching about the country and people as though someone's forcing them to remain here.

 

They rattle on about being here only for their wives (whom, in many cases, they can barely communicate with anyway) and their kids but refuse to accept the fact that their situations exist because of life decisions that they themselves have made.

[Scotwight]

2 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said:

 

 

The credibility of this forum is pretty much non-existent on Thailand-oriented Facebook groups and other social media platforms.

 

I wouldn't admit to being a member for love nor money - when the now-defunct Thaivisa lounge was open, I'd sooner have died than socialise with the Mos Eisley Star Wars bar-type freaks I saw hanging around it.

 

The forum is full of, bitter disgruntled, bellicose misfits and serial victims bitching about the country and people as though someone's forcing them to remain here.

 

They rattle on about being here only for their wives (whom, in many cases, they can barely communicate with anyway) and their kids but refuse to accept the fact that their situations exist because of life decisions that they themselves have made.

Ya the guys on Grinder, Planet Romeo, High5 and Tagged give it a thumbs down daily.

[tropo]

6 minutes ago, Agent Sumo said:

 

 

The credibility of this forum is pretty much non-existent on Thailand-oriented Facebook groups and other social media platforms.

 

I wouldn't admit to being a member for love nor money - when the now-defunct Thaivisa lounge was open, I'd sooner have died than socialise with the Mos Eisley Star Wars bar-type freaks I saw hanging around it.

 

The forum is full of, bitter disgruntled, bellicose misfits and serial victims bitching about the country and people as though someone's forcing them to remain here.

 

They rattle on about being here only for their wives (whom, in many cases, they can barely communicate with anyway) and their kids but refuse to accept the fact that their situations exist because of life decisions that they themselves have made.

Why are you still posting on here?

 

 

[Scotwight]

3 minutes ago, tropo said:

Why are you still posting on here?

 

 

Maybe he thinks it's another forum - the new look and all.  I thought it was Grinder for a while but the English was too bad for Grinder.

[lostinisaan]

39 minutes ago, tropo said:

You wrote a lot of stuff there, so you're obviously a big fan, but do you really think Thai people are easygoing? I think they're the opposite - aggressive, impatient and very quick to anger.   

 

I see you come from Germany. Perhaps people are very uptight there and Thais are relaxed by comparison.

 

    You'll find <deleted>" everywhere. But it's your choice with whom you spend your time, don't you think so?

 

          Your example fits to all foot ball hooligan from any European country, maybe including the UK?

 

Aggressive, impatient and very quick to anger. Fighting, just because somebody';s wearing the wrong shirt on "match day." 

 

    I've got no idea where you've been in this country, but I've met good people in Mae Hong Son and I've met good people down the south. None of them was aggressive. 

 

           But I don't have to go that far, my wife's family is a great example, as there isn't even one who fits your description. 

 

          Or do you think that they're only an exception in Thailand? 

 

                How does the saying go? Don't judge the book by its cover. 

[metisdead]

Inflammatory posts have been removed. 

[Bob9]

Many things good (IMO), some things bad (IMO) - they balance out for me. Besides the obvious big things - I love the lack of NANNY STATE  mentality.  I love being able to drive fast when needed and not worry about being arrested and being treated as a criminal (unless have an accident).  And when I get caught doing something wrong (minor) I like being able to pay a cop 200 baht and not pay the Govt back home $300 (who then gives it to druggies and bludgers). There are few druggies and bludgers here costing taxpayers heaps of money, because the Govt gives them SFA - I love that.  There are so many little things here that are 'right' - and it is those little things about Thailand that are great and why I stay (plus costs and Thai wife). 

 

[tropo]

15 minutes ago, lostinisaan said:

 

    You'll find <deleted>" everywhere. But it's your choice with whom you spend your time, don't you think so?

 

          Your example fits to all foot ball hooligan from any European country, maybe including the UK?

 

Aggressive, impatient and very quick to anger. Fighting, just because somebody';s wearing the wrong shirt on "match day." 

 

    I've got no idea where you've been in this country, but I've met good people in Mae Hong Son and I've met good people down the south. None of them was aggressive. 

 

           But I don't have to go that far, my wife's family is a great example, as there isn't even one who fits your description. 

 

          Or do you think that they're only an exception in Thailand? 

 

                How does the saying go? Don't judge the book by its cover. 

LOL. "don't judge a book by it's cover". That's a great idea when looking for reading material, but with Thais I prefer : "if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck!"

 

You can get a pretty idea about Thai temperament by walking around and observing... in my case, for 10 years.

Edited August 21, 2016 by tropo

[tropo]

11 minutes ago, Bob9 said:

Many things good (IMO), some things bad (IMO) - they balance out for me. Besides the obvious big things - I love the lack of NANNY STATE  mentality.  I love being able to drive fast when needed and not worry about being arrested and being treated as a criminal (unless have an accident).  And when I get caught doing something wrong (minor) I like being able to pay a cop 200 baht and not pay the Govt back home $300 (who then gives it to druggies and bludgers). There are few druggies and bludgers here costing taxpayers heaps of money, because the Govt gives them SFA - I love that.  There are so many little things here that are 'right' - and it is those little things about Thailand that are great and why I stay (plus costs and Thai wife). 

 

There you go... you basically love Thailand because it's corrupt and you can drive dangerously whenever you like.

 

There are times when I miss living in a NANNY STATE. Times when people run red lights, speed and generally drive dangerously. You should be careful - if you have an accident there's a good chance you could perish, whereas back at home you may have survived. You better off getting tickets and good medical attention when you crash.

 

 

 

 

[JJGreen]

2 hours ago, Testacall said:

People can spend years trying to figure out how to sign up too !!

Its posters like you who scare them off

[JJGreen]

1 hour ago, Bob9 said:

Many things good (IMO), some things bad (IMO) - they balance out for me. Besides the obvious big things - I love the lack of NANNY STATE  mentality.  I love being able to drive fast when needed and not worry about being arrested and being treated as a criminal (unless have an accident).  And when I get caught doing something wrong (minor) I like being able to pay a cop 200 baht and not pay the Govt back home $300 (who then gives it to druggies and bludgers). There are few druggies and bludgers here costing taxpayers heaps of money, because the Govt gives them SFA - I love that.  There are so many little things here that are 'right' - and it is those little things about Thailand that are great and why I stay (plus costs and Thai wife). 

 

JJs expat Rule #7...Be wary of expats who use the term Nanny State as a positive point of difference

[The manic]

being happy is helped by avoiding negative people and boring people. There are many medicore bores on this forum and they and their views should be avoided like the plague. Many spoilt westerners have not travelled much and provincial. The Americans who are amazed that Thailandis not the as the states, the KFC and Mcdpnalds serve food. And the Australians who areally country people.

[tropo]

9 minutes ago, The manic said:

being happy is helped by avoiding negative people and boring people. There are many medicore bores on this forum and they and their views should be avoided like the plague. Many spoilt westerners have not travelled much and provincial. The Americans who are amazed that Thailandis not the as the states, the KFC and Mcdpnalds serve food. And the Australians who areally country people.

You call that happy? I call that "ignorant bliss", (which sounds quite boring actually)...  It may work for some, but I prefer being in touch with reality than hiding from it.

 

It may be useful to understand why people are negative about Thailand. Perhaps there is a good reason. Why shouldn't people be aware of the negative aspects of Thailand? It could save some people the trouble of coming here in the first place, and ultimately reduce the number of negative forum posts.

 

Could you explain what you meant by: "And the Australians who areally (sic) country people". Why even bring up Americans and Australians? Where are you from?

[mihalis]

9 hours ago, villagefarang said:

I would have to exclude 99% of the people I know if I had to exclude everyone I know who is not posting on ThaiVisa.  You live in your world and make up your own rules but count me out.

Thai Visa, i joined a few years back, not one person i know personally in Thailand, uses it, well, a few tried, and found as i have, many who are on this site, are bitter farangs, blaming Thais for their own mess..

 

The op who started this, stated his mate lost 700 thousand dollars to a Thai lady, well, his mate is the only one to  blame.. I also know more western men, whos western wives have taken them thru the ringer..