Thai police probing bombing link to southern violence

[Baerboxer]

5 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

 

The problem with these kind of people is that that combine a hysterical hatred of Thaksin in particular and redshirts in general with a deep and impenetrable ignorance.They never repeat never examine the evidence or do any homework.It was clear from the outset that Southern secessionist fingerprints were all over the recent bombing outrages.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2016/08/whos-behind-thailands-deadly-bomb-blasts/

 

Yet these ignorant bigots simply ignore or deny reality - or in this case attempt ridiculous back pedalling (see his earlier posts) - because they live in a tiny obsessive bubble.

 

Proverbs 26:11 "As a dog returns to his vomit, so fools repeat their folly"

 

Well there we are. The great Shin defender and omnipotent Jayboy say's it's obvious. Only he ain't got a shred of evidence just his biased opinion he likes to pretend is unquestionable fact.

 

Reality - someone planted and activated those bombs. No one has been caught, prosecuted and convicted. The police, as usual wildly speculate.

 

So Sherlock, if it was the insurgents of the South, the separatists, how come they haven't claimed it? How come they suddenly venture out of the normal area and attack new targets? 

 

Maybe it's a splinter group, one particular cell wanting to up the ante, etc etc etc. Speculation, just like your's. Only other posters don't have to pretend that anyone who disagrees must with their view must ignorant and bigoted - how ironic and insecure.

 

 

[Baerboxer]

46 minutes ago, Brer Fox said:

I think they have switched horses and now claiming a link to the separatists for three reasons.

1. They can't find any clue which can lead them to political activists.

2. Much easier for police to nab and blame some poor southern revolutionary soul in order to collect the reward.

3. Politically better for the PM to blame the south rather than admitting it may have been people protesting his form of government.

 

The "end" here is determined by what someone wants it to be. Facts, evidence and reality have no particular role in that process.

[dageurreotype]

Is Thailand also 'special' in that any terror attack is never claimed? In the UK the IRA were quick to own their campaigns, same with all and any ISIS related. I'd've thought that would be the point of a terror campaign is to bomb the shit out of anyone until the government accede to their demands. Bizarre. Boooom! 'Wonder who that could be?' 

[bark]

If the Southern Problems moves North to Bangkok; you can write off Thai Tourism.

There have been bombs, almost everyday, in the 3 Southern provinces for the last 6-7 years.  I think over 3,000 people

have died. Many of them police , soldiers, and teachers and kids. And we never hear about it on the international news.

But if they bomb Bangkok even once a month; in a mall or sky train station. Tourism is done.

[halloween]

56 minutes ago, jayboy said:

 

 

The problem with these kind of people is that that combine a hysterical hatred of Thaksin in particular and redshirts in general with a deep and impenetrable ignorance.They never repeat never examine the evidence or do any homework.It was clear from the outset that Southern secessionist fingerprints were all over the recent bombing outrages.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2016/08/whos-behind-thailands-deadly-bomb-blasts/

 

Yet these ignorant bigots simply ignore or deny reality - or in this case attempt ridiculous back pedalling (see his earlier posts) - because they live in a tiny obsessive bubble.

 

Proverbs 26:11 "As a dog returns to his vomit, so fools repeat their folly"

 

If you read my statement more closely you would have noticed that it said in or OUT. there have been just as many claiming it couldn't possibly be the reds as accusing them. Either group are still possibles, though collaboration would be unlikely.

[jayboy]

45 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Well there we are. The great Shin defender and omnipotent Jayboy say's it's obvious. Only he ain't got a shred of evidence just his biased opinion he likes to pretend is unquestionable fact.

 

Reality - someone planted and activated those bombs. No one has been caught, prosecuted and convicted. The police, as usual wildly speculate.

 

So Sherlock, if it was the insurgents of the South, the separatists, how come they haven't claimed it? How come they suddenly venture out of the normal area and attack new targets? 

 

Maybe it's a splinter group, one particular cell wanting to up the ante, etc etc etc. Speculation, just like your's. Only other posters don't have to pretend that anyone who disagrees must with their view must ignorant and bigoted - how ironic and insecure.

 

 

 

I have quoted Shawn Crispin's article: there is no reputable journalist more sceptical of Thaksin and the redshirts..Try not to make more of a fool of yourself than necessary.

Edited August 16, 2016 by jayboy

[sujoop]

Not a leap for the mastermind via a middleman to direct local elements using Malaysian phones (a very convenient and willing patsy to cover one's tracks). We've seen over and over again Police investigations tend to reach for the lowest hanging fruit and/or scapegoat (ala Koh Tao for just one example). The Erawan Shrine investigation similarly seemed to take advantage of a 'too' convenient back-story and patsy (and also similarly, no one including the Uighur's took credit for it). Bomb attacks beyond the deep South are not new, starting with eerily similar M.O. on NY Eve 2006 in BKK with 8 bombs following Thaksin's ouster:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2007/01/09/politics/politics_30023641.php
 

The real mastermind in the latest cowardly attacks was much more likely not happy with the referendum, targeted only Southern provinces who voted for it (and on a Royal day to add salt) and moreover appears bent on de-railing tourism (thus the economy) and destabilising Thailand in advance of a difficult transition period. Not a junta fan-boy but given many past incidents and patterns to present day and with much more likely coming in transition, the Army is unfortunately/regretfully highly needed during this time period to maintain a civil society and to preserve law and order - or, pin your hopes on the Police and good luck with that.

Edited August 16, 2016 by sujoop
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[sahibji]

5 hours ago, halloween said:

Nobody should be ruled in or out of the investigation until convincing evidence is presented.

halloween

well summed up. this is a complex situation. lot of investigation will have to be done to get to some sort of closure, if there is one.

one cannot rule out any lead or angle.

[than]

9 hours ago, Thechook said:

This is extremely bad news for junta huggers, if it isn't the boogey man Thaksin then there just isn't anything left to live for.

 

When Thaksin has contact with BRN, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"

 

Quote

Former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra won much admiration from the separatist movement for his initiative that led to the peace process in the deep South, according to a former member of the insurgent group that recently agreed to peace talks with Thai authorities. [...] Thaksin was involved in talks with BRN leaders a few years ago. The ex-PM met with a group led by Hasan Taib for the first time in Dubai, the United Arab Emirates.

The Nation 10 March 2013

 

[candide]

Junta huggers please take notice of the new position of the government on this matter as can be read in the "other newspaper".

While evidence tends to point at

Southern insurgents, they have been manipulated by a mastermind, i.e Gen Prawit said that "southern militants might have been hired to carry out the attacks" (guess to whom he was thinking).

This is the new position to defend in TVF

 

Edited August 16, 2016 by candide

[sujoop]

^^Certainly a possibility.  Also very similar to the 8 BKK bombs on NY eve 2006 following Thaksin's ouster, so definitely not new. Great way to hide one's tracks. We'll know for SURE if/when all heck breaks loose following confiscation of billions in 'family' assets after the imminent rice scam ruling is handed in. Similar to 2010 right after Thaksin was confiscated 46 billion in ill gotten gains and all heck broke loose.  Again, not a junta fan-boy but given many past incidents and patterns to present day and with much more likely coming in a tense transition period (which someone seems to want to acerbate)  the Army is unfortunately/regretfully highly needed during this time period to maintain a civil society and to preserve law and order - or, pin your hopes on  'tomato'  Police to maintain law and order.

[Alwyn]

Jamie must be gutted...

[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, halloween said:

Nobody should be ruled in or out of the investigation until convincing evidence is presented.

Very true , shame that the 'but but Thaksin ' mob couldn't help masturbating at the thought of red involvement.

[phycokiller]

no one will get the blame for this, if its southerners which is very likely it wont be made public. in my 15 years in Thailand the only bombers they ever got were the ones that accidentally blew themselves up, other then that, they never solved a single case, except erewan but they couldnt find the people that organized that either.

[Enoon]

It would make the job of the separatist groups of the South so much easier if the Thai state would just tear itself apart in a frenzy of accusation, reprisal, internment and ultimately, civil war.

 

Claim responsibility and demonstrate the impotence of the state?  Or don't claim, knowing that the dysfunctional state will not be able to resist the temptation to use the incident as a pretext to fabricate more rope for itself?