PM hails Govt’s success in combating corruption

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

PM hails Govt’s success in combating corruption because the top brass are getting more brown envelopes.

[Khun Han]

11 minutes ago, halloween said:

Amazing how posters on this thread had nothing to say on the junta's recovery of B7 billion baht from the Shinawatra's favourite rice-trading company.

"AMLO seize 7 billion baht assets from Siam Indica"

" Siam Indiga also won part of the government stockpile under the silent-releasing method with total volume of 300,000 tonnes. The rice was set for export under a government-to-government deal to Indonesia only. The bid was Bt11-12 per kilogram compared with the government cost of Bt21-Bt23 per kilo while the market price was Bt15. With this lot alone, the government lost Bt3.3 billion. However, Siam Indiga enjoyed a profit of Bt900 million. "

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Former-head-of-troubled-Agri-Trading-stands-to-gai-30192330.html

 

 

 

 

I laud your constant flagging-up of Thaksinista corruption: the attention is well-deserved. But your apologies and excuses for the current mob (who are the real deal mafia in comparison to Thaksin's second-rate wannabes) comes across as, at best, naive evangelism.

[jamesbrock]

4 hours ago, sweatalot said:

undoubtedly? Your personal unproved and very biased belief

 

A view shared by many people who read, including a great deal of Thai academics and international experts.

• Thai Generals and Corruption - http://www.wsj.com/articles/thai-generals-and-corruption-1402593819

• Thailand’s Crooked Army - http://www.asiasentinel.com/politics/thailand-crooked-army/#frameId=appnext_widget&height=64

• Thai Junta Beset By Corruption Scandals - http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/thai-junta-beset-by-corruption-scandals/

• Still better than Thaksin? - http://www.newmandala.org/still-better-than-thaksin/

• Rajabhakti Park: The corruption case the Thai junta doesn’t want you to talk about - https://asiancorrespondent.com/2015/12/rajabhakti-park-controversy/

• Why Does Thailand Need An Army? - https://uglytruththailand.wordpress.com/tag/corruption/

As I posted the other day, and heybruce linked to above, the Government Defence Anti-Corruption Index (GI) assesses the existence, effectiveness and enforcement of institutional and informal controls to manage the risk of corruption in defence and security institutions across the world.

 

Their team of experts draws together evidence from a wide variety of sources and interviewees across 77 indicators to provide a detailed assessment of the integrity of national defence institutions, and awarded a score for each country from A to F.

 

In the 2015 Government Defence Anti-Corruption Index (GI), Thailand scored an 'E'.

 

Quote

Thailand’s GI ranking in Band E places it in the “very high” risk category for corruption in the defence and security sector.   

 

Since the May 2014 military coup, there has been no independent scrutiny of defence policy by the legislature, a lack of budget transparency, and insufficient institutional measures concerning most aspects of the procurement cycle. While pre-coup anti-corruption organisations like the National Anti-Corruption Commission still enjoy a quasi-legal status, they lack sufficient influence to curtail military involvement with the proliferation of organized crime in southern Thailand or ghost soldiers. Taken together, these corruption risks not only pose a serious threat to the stability of the state but fundamentally undermine its accountability to the people of Thailand.

 

The 2014 military takeover in Thailand voided the 2007 constitution, which had established legislative scrutiny of Thai Defence Policy. As a result, civil society has a limited ability to affect debate or solicit information regarding the defence budget or procurement decisions. While pre-coup institutions like the National Anti-corruption Commission (NAAC) still exist in a quasi-legal fashion, evidence suggests that their authority to scrutinize corruption issues is minimal.

 

Since the 2014 military coup, the National Legislative Assembly has yet to publish a budget for 2015, it seems likely that a large portion of it will be classified. Since the 2014 coup, there have been no legislative committees tasked with external auditing of military defence expenditure.  It’s unclear what role internal audit is playing.

 

While there are wide-ranging examples of Thai military units or individuals involved or complicit on organised crime, there is no concrete evidence to suggest that the government or the military see this connection as a serious problem or working actively to alleviate it. There is extensive evidence of the military's involvement in criminal networks associated with narcotics, prostitution, human trafficking, and illegal casinos. Military and paramilitary officers have been involved individually, at senior and lower ranking levels. Evidence suggests that security officials are illegally paid "protection" money to ensure that illegal mafia operations are allowed to continue. Tackling this issue is difficult given that those responsible for enforcing the law may also be implicated in illicit activities.

 

Little information exists regarding the selection criteria for senior personnel within defence and security institutions. We recommend that legislation be tightened and implemented with formal written procedures establishing an independent, transparent, and objective appointment system for the selection of military personnel at middle and top management level. This system should be published, and accompanied by the use of objective job descriptions, assessment processes for appointments, and independent oversight.

 

The overall procurement process could be improved. In practice, there is evidence that brokers have often already been involved in the procurement process, before the requirement is even communicated to the Ministry of Defence. A legal framework that addresses brokerage, and the position of the government is essential, given that our assessment points to a significant increase in cost [since the 2014 coup] to the procurement process of up to 30-40%.

 

source: http://government.defenceindex.org/countries/thailand/

 

What you call an "unproved and very biased belief" is actually a pretty accurate and well researched determination.

[Mosha]

The government of which country is he hailing?

Sent from my SMART_4G_Speedy_5inch using Tapatalk

[jamesbrock]

50 minutes ago, halloween said:

Amazing how posters on this thread had nothing to say on the junta's recovery of B7 billion baht from the Shinawatra's favourite rice-trading company.

"AMLO seize 7 billion baht assets from Siam Indica"

" Siam Indiga also won part of the government stockpile under the silent-releasing method with total volume of 300,000 tonnes. The rice was set for export under a government-to-government deal to Indonesia only. The bid was Bt11-12 per kilogram compared with the government cost of Bt21-Bt23 per kilo while the market price was Bt15. With this lot alone, the government lost Bt3.3 billion. However, Siam Indiga enjoyed a profit of Bt900 million. "

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Former-head-of-troubled-Agri-Trading-stands-to-gai-30192330.html

 

Probably have nothing to say because, coming the day after these gems, there really was nothing to say...

 

• NACC declares the Rajabhakti Park project above board - http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/941771-nacc-declares-the-rajabhakti-park-project-above-board/

• Probe into mysterious death of former Phang Nga land officer in DSI custody progresses slowly - http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/941835-probe-into-mysterious-death-of-former-phang-nga-land-officer-in-dsi-custody-progresses slowly/

• NACC yet to reach conclusion on case of violent 2008 protest crackdown - http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/941823-nacc-yet-to-reach-conclusion-on-case-of-violent-2008-protest-crackdown/

The fact that any case even remotely involving the criminal Shinawatra family is pounced upon, where other cases are left to fade into oblivion or simply whitewashed is, or should be, patently clear to anyone.

[elgordo38]

Awe the sound of one hand clapping. With that Sad Sack look I doubt if even he believes this. 

Edited September 11, 2016 by elgordo38

[chainarong]

8 hours ago, aussieinthailand said:

The junta leader told the media reporters, they can not dig up stuff like corruption on his brother or selected police and members of his family and his government, and in doing so has no benefit for the country and is just making trouble.

But hey there are STILL a few junta fan boy's that refuse to admit that the junta have protected themselves from investigations and now proclaim the junta is going after corrupt people,  Yo fella's,,,   you acquainted with the words gullible, suckers, fools???

But ok I am happy that corrupt people are being caught even though they are carefully selected, But I wish they would come too our village as the head man here has proven his corruption many times over,  One of his latest antics is the village support fund of 1 million baht for 13 people working in their farms,

and 13 members of his family each got a share, a week later people asked him how he could do this, his answer was not him but the Ampur picks the people who get the money, 

 

No Thailand Junta  has actually answered any questions about wealth, a family member (Reporter)  did an investigation on a candidate in the last fully functional junta  and was immediately sent to Coventry by everyone in the media , no one would employ him anywhere , he was toxic , he couldn't buy a job ,  he died a lonely sad man in 2001 aged 54, mind you the General concerned had to withdraw from the elections in disgrace, he carried every filthy piece of baggage imaginable, I have seen first hand what these people can do , so I don't blame any reporter for being a little shy 

[fish monger]

Only two years of corruption...? Excuse me.....?....

[Basil B]

I have to say this junta has hung out to dry a few corrupt officials...

 

But this is only a token gesture as there are lots more, and many so called untouchables who should be the first to go if this junta is to prove it is not just another failed "Toothless" poodle.

 

[Redline]

Dunce

[kannot]

200! iceberg ....tip of

[kannot]

11 hours ago, elgordo38 said:

Awe the sound of one hand clapping. With that Sad Sack look I doubt if even he believes this. 

if he held his hand to his face the  clapping would work with one hand

[NongKhaiKid]

There used to be a couple of members who pointed to the junta's success against corruption by highlighting how a senior police general had fallen while ignoring that the background of the case involved something we can't talk about.

I haven't seen this type of post for quite some time now.

[Squeegee]

[selftaopath]

Our village must not have received the memo. The "election" for a new "village chief" still encompasses vote buying. My wife tells me people in our village will not vote unless they are paid to vote. So much for Western style democracy/elections. In my home country its done by lobbyists etc.