Bangkok Barry Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 14 hours ago, Basil B said: 500B fines... and transferred to inactive posts Nope! From the New York Times, no less, three years ago: Now, after years of judicial proceedings and investigations by Thailand's anticorruption authorities, the Supreme Court here last month ruled that the deal, for the equivalent of about $183 million, was "massively overpriced." It sentenced two former senior Thai officials to prison terms for malfeasance and bid-rigging in the procurement of 315 fire trucks, 30 firefighting boats and other equipment bought from the General Dynamics business unit, then known as Steyr-Daimler-Puch Spezialfahrzeug. Yet justice remains elusive, Thai officials say. Both convicted men, a former chief firefighter and a former deputy interior minister, have fled the country, according to the Thai news media. Also absent on the day of the verdict — and during the trial — was Steyr, which was listed as a defendant but closed its office in Thailand in 2008 after the investigation started. The case against the company was suspended after it left the country. Yep! In time-honoured Thainess, they fled the scene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasset Tak Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 A budget of basically 1,5 million Baht a fire-truck is not much, they have been standing for 10 years so they will probably need to change: All rubber fittings All rubber hoses Rusted parts Parts of the electrical wiring Batteries Tires and so on. And also complete overhauls of the engines as they have probably not been started for 10 ears. Add all together and remember that everything that is not a standard part will be expensive to replace. To compare; I use to build and service specialized transports. One customer ordered service cars, in each service car they wanted a unit to secure any money removed from ATM's during service (this is the non-standard part...) and the manufacturer of that unit charged my customers (equal to) 500,000 Baht per unit. After we built the first couple of service cars I had constructed an in-house solution (using standard parts) that I offered to my customers at a price that was 75% lower what they had payed before... I made 70% profit per unit!!! That's the difference between standard and non-standard parts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 38 minutes ago, Kasset Tak said: A budget of basically 1,5 million Baht a fire-truck is not much, they have been standing for 10 years so they will probably need to change: All rubber fittings All rubber hoses Rusted parts Parts of the electrical wiring Batteries Tires and so on. And also complete overhauls of the engines as they have probably not been started for 10 ears. Add all together and remember that everything that is not a standard part will be expensive to replace. To compare; I use to build and service specialized transports. One customer ordered service cars, in each service car they wanted a unit to secure any money removed from ATM's during service (this is the non-standard part...) and the manufacturer of that unit charged my customers (equal to) 500,000 Baht per unit. After we built the first couple of service cars I had constructed an in-house solution (using standard parts) that I offered to my customers at a price that was 75% lower what they had payed before... I made 70% profit per unit!!! That's the difference between standard and non-standard parts.... That sound interesting, but was your unit insurance rated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 44 minutes ago, hansnl said: Was Mr Prayut prime minister 10 years ago? How is it possible to eradicate corruption existing since 60-80 years in two years. Twenty years is a good goal. I made no reference to the history of the PM. I made no reference to corruption being eradicated in two years. I made no reference to 20 years being an unreasonable goal. But I will make a reference to your comprehension skills. They are sadly lacking and need attention. My earlier post seems to have discombobulated you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Get the nephew to fix em. Money should then go to the right place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 3 hours ago, halloween said: Can anybody explain why a winch is needed on a city fire-truck? oh! they are for getting the fat cats onboard Try to board by themselves, and there'd be a fenderbender (tenderbender) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 To move overweight Governors out of the way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Before all is said and done -- the original purchase price, the years of litigation costs, the years of storage yard costs, and the future repair-refurbishment costs -- these probably are going to be some of the most expensive fire trucks ever purchased in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Without reforming the legal system, especially stopping granting bail to wealthy thieves, while they appeal, nothing will ever change here. In fact, why are these people granted bail? They've just been convicted. To grant them bail is to cast a serious aspersion on the legal system, by suggesting they may not be. Lock them up while they exhaust the appeals system - then you might see some rapid changes to the Thai 'Justice' system... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 14 hours ago, halloween said: Can anybody explain why a winch is needed on a city fire-truck? Well if they can't put the fire out they can always tow the building away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 They could have parked those trucks on the hanger decks of the aircraft carrier and saved a lot of rental money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKay Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 The perpetual traffic situation is still going to impede their use if any. Money probably better spent on education and hope for progress 20 years on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 8:11 PM, ChrisY1 said: Oh...come on.......nobody in high positions in Thailand goes to prison over corruption........the rip is done.....the detectives move in and sometimes find major faults.....but nobody is accountable...ever! The fraudulenty obtained gains by the suspects are never ...ever returned........why?? Hi-so people are above the rule of law......and it seems always! (... and it seems always!) wrong should read, and it seems always! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooo Upto Me Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 On 21/09/2016 at 8:02 PM, tomwct said: Has anybody gone to prison over this corruption? Hahaha ur joking arnt u? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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