webfact Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Sustainable development: the push to transform our world Excerpts of Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha’s speech to the UN general assembly in New York on Wednesday Last year, the UN General Assembly adopted the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development with 17 Sustainable Development Goals that we all have to "push" together in order to achieve balanced and sustainable global development. We have to push for a world where peoples are placed at the heart of the development policy, and no one is left behind. Thailand firmly believes that sustainable development cannot be realised where there is no peace and security or when human rights are violated, abused or disregarded - and vice-versa. The recent migration crisis is a clear example of how security, development and social implications are intrinsically intertwined. No country is exempted from effects of crises that happen in the world, even if far away. Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Sustainable-development-the-push-to-transform-our--30295961.html -- © Copyright The Nation 2016-09-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 (edited) Excerpts from his speech when speaking to a ' packed ' assembly ! Now comes the Olympic standard spin locally. Edited September 22, 2016 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Bob Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Notice all the empty seats. I wonder if the Ambassador to Thailand was present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharecropper Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 25 minutes ago, Mango Bob said: Notice all the empty seats. I wonder if the Ambassador to Thailand was present. Probably at gunpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 1 hour ago, webfact said: ... or when human rights are violated, abused or disregarded - and vice-versa. So "and vice-versa" that would be the Junta's secret sauce, ... such as "violated, abused, and disregarded are human rights" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 22, 2016 Share Posted September 22, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussieinthailand Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Right that's it,,, Attitude Adjustments for all then falangs that did listen to my babbling, (speech), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 18 minutes ago, jamesbrock said: Got to have sympathy for the unfortunates who had to attend the speech. Apart from having to sit through the ramble they would do so in the realization they don't rate highly in their delegation's pecking order because if they did somebody else would be sitting there instead of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 51 minutes ago, tbthailand said: So "and vice-versa" that would be the Junta's secret sauce, ... such as "violated, abused, and disregarded are human rights" Saw this interesting quote attributed to him this morning: "Why do people only think of human rights or liberty? It prevents the country from progressing." Before I posted it I had to verify it as accurate - the only source I could find is direct from the horse's mouth (at 2:44): https://youtu.be/fCSwNDefJwE?t=2m44s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, NongKhaiKid said: Got to have sympathy for the unfortunates who had to attend the speech. Apart from having to sit through the ramble they would do so in the realization they don't rate highly in their delegation's pecking order because if they did somebody else would be sitting there instead of them. I wonder if the good General is jealous at Obama's audience... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Forget returning happiness to only Thailand.....Let's return happiness to the World! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 ah! but only the "good" people are human Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Out of the waffle fed to the UN comes this gem of obfuscation: "...The government came in to oversee the situation during a period of transition, to bring about order and security and to pave the way towards sustained political governance..." Might I suggest the following three observations about it: It was NOT the government, it was the army that came in (by way of a coup d'etat). This so-called "period of transition" is all about maintaining the status quo of the influential elite, and calming their anxieties about the very real uncertainties that lay ahead! As for paving the way for "sustained" political governance - the antithesis is the case - orchestrating an election outcome that will see: a House of Reps made up of a weak and ineffective coalition of minor parties (all pushing their own agendas); an entrenched junta-appointed Senate; and, a prime minister of questionable political affiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 (edited) 42 minutes ago, waldroj said: Out of the waffle fed to the UN comes this gem of obfuscation: "...The government came in to oversee the situation during a period of transition, to bring about order and security and to pave the way towards sustained political governance..." Might I suggest the following three observations about it: It was NOT the government, it was the army that came in (by way of a coup d'etat). This so-called "period of transition" is all about maintaining the status quo of the influential elite, and calming their anxieties about the very real uncertainties that lay ahead! As for paving the way for "sustained" political governance - the antithesis is the case - orchestrating an election outcome that will see: a House of Reps made up of a weak and ineffective coalition of minor parties (all pushing their own agendas); an entrenched junta-appointed Senate; and, a prime minister of questionable political affiliation. Speaking of transition, Euronews website appeared to jump the gun yesterday with a new deleted (but still available on Google's web cache) story that would've shocked the world. Edited September 23, 2016 by jamesbrock typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, jamesbrock said: Speaking of transition, Euronews website appeared to jump the gun yesterday with a new deleted (but still available on Google's web cache) story that would've shocked to world. Now Error 404! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, waldroj said: Now Error 404! Click the green down arrow beside the word 'news' to access the cached version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 didnt i read a couple days ago about a foreigner being fined 150 000thb for defamation for bring to light a factory using slave labor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 speaking during lunch time, not a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 You can get more people than that in a Thai mini bus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tominbkk Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I see about 9 people in the audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 9 hours ago, jamesbrock said: Saw this interesting quote attributed to him this morning: "Why do people only think of human rights or liberty? It prevents the country from progressing." Before I posted it I had to verify it as accurate - the only source I could find is direct from the horse's mouth (at 2:44): https://youtu.be/fCSwNDefJwE?t=2m44s wow, ... just wow, .... What else would we expect from a self-proclaimed "democratic soldier"?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Plagiarized or delusional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 2 hours ago, tbthailand said: wow, ... just wow, .... What else would we expect from a self-proclaimed "democratic soldier"?? I've since discovered that this video was taken at the first meeting of the “five rivers” (which include the National Council for Peace and Order, the cabinet, the National Legislative Assembly, the National Reform Steering Assembly and the Constitution Drafting Committee) on Wednesday 28 October 2015. I think this quote wasn't picked up on because this was the meeting where he said he may stay longer in office if opposing political groups refuse to stop fighting. Quote Politicians do not have to be suspicious of me. [The media] writes every day that I intend to cling to power. I must make it clear. If there is no peace and order, I must stay on and if we have to close the country, so be it. Close. The. Country. He said he would isolate the country from the world if that is what is required to get Thailand back on track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 My best guess is we farangs will not be in any way shape or form going to change anything in Thailand it is their land and country and we are guess here regardless how much money we pour into their economy. Their government is what it is and if we look around the world freedom is very limited regardless of the country we come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 14 hours ago, jamesbrock said: I've since discovered that this video was taken at the first meeting of the “five rivers” (which include the National Council for Peace and Order, the cabinet, the National Legislative Assembly, the National Reform Steering Assembly and the Constitution Drafting Committee) on Wednesday 28 October 2015. I think this quote wasn't picked up on because this was the meeting where he said he may stay longer in office if opposing political groups refuse to stop fighting. Close. The. Country. He said he would isolate the country from the world if that is what is required to get Thailand back on track. close the country, ie: secure the borders... finally, he is getting closer to the real role for the military... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 5 hours ago, mettech said: My best guess is we farangs will not be in any way shape or form going to change anything in Thailand it is their land and country and we are guess here regardless how much money we pour into their economy. Their government is what it is and if we look around the world freedom is very limited regardless of the country we come from. that is an objectively false statement. Especially compared to Thailand. In how many other countries in the world do you find a government with unlimited and absolute power, headed by a general who overthrew an elected government in a coup? By every measure, human rights restrictions have sky-rocketd in Thailand since May 2014. Yes, their government is what it is, and it is clear what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 34 minutes ago, tbthailand said: close the country, ie: secure the borders... finally, he is getting closer to the real role for the military... In the context of his sentence, "If there is no peace and order, I must stay on and if we have to close the country, so be it" I consider "close the country" to mean North Korea-style isolating the country from the world, rather than securing the borders but still letting people, particularly foreigners, cross. Securing the borders but still letting people, including foreigners, cross would not bring about peace and order. Isolating the country from the world, particularly if he uses his beloved single gateway to restrict social media a la China, would (in his mind). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, mettech said: My best guess is we farangs will not be in any way shape or form going to change anything in Thailand it is their land and country and we are guess here regardless how much money we pour into their economy. Their government is what it is and if we look around the world freedom is very limited regardless of the country we come from. It is indeed "their" land, they being the "elitists" that rule the country & will continue to do so, no matter who is democratically elected! Edited September 24, 2016 by CGW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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