webfact Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Body in the freezer gang: FBI confirm all three are Americans and "Peter" is really "Herbert" Image: Sanook BANGKOK: -- Thai police have confirmed that all three of the suspects in the passport forgery and body in the freezer case are Americans. INN reported Natthathorn Phrosunthorn of the immigration police as saying this could now be confirmed after receiving information from the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the US, reported Sanook. The man earlier named as "Peter William Johnson" has now been named as Herbert K. 'Louvran' (surname transliterated from the Thai report may be incorrect). He is said to be 63. This was confirmed after fingerprinting evidence and information from relatives. He was previously wanted on a charge of fraud though the statute of limitations had run out on this. The second suspect was named as James Douglas Eger who had come in and out of Thailand 148. He had been permitted to stay in Thailand until 2017. His latest arrival was 2nd November 2014. The third suspect was named as Gabriel Aaron Thomas who also had been in and out of the kingdom many times. He was said to be involved with three Thai women two of whom had no criminal background though the INN report was not clear in this regard. Immigration told INN that they were happy with the technology used for checking passports saying that forgeries had been detected in the past in high profile cases. Source: Sanook -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2016-09-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 ...."Peter" is really "Herbert" I KNEW IT! I knew it! I knew it. No way that guy looked like a "Peter" & I told the gf "That's a Herbert if I ever saw one!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted September 28, 2016 Author Share Posted September 28, 2016 The Americans: Head forgery ring suspect ran from FBI By Chayanit Itthipongmaetee, Staff Reporter - A 2001 FBI bulletin seeking fugitive fraud suspect Herbert La Fon. Photo: U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation BANGKOK — One was an oil exploration specialist who resigned from an executive-level position at a Texas-based energy firm and moved to Southeast Asia eight years ago. Another was settled here with a Thai wife and young child. The third man, suspected of shooting a Thai cop and keeping a frozen body in a freezer, seems to have been on the run from the FBI for nearly four decades. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/crime-crime/2016/09/28/the-americans-head-forgery-ring-suspect-ran-from-fbi/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-09-28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 It seems that at least two of them have done nothing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosst Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, greenchair said: It seems that at least two of them have done nothing wrong. Lay down with dogs and get up with fleas, nothing they have been caught for YET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Pattaya Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 24 minutes ago, webfact said: The Americans: Head forgery ring suspect ran from FBI By Chayanit Itthipongmaetee, Staff Reporter - A 2001 FBI bulletin seeking fugitive fraud suspect Herbert La Fon. Photo: U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation BANGKOK — One was an oil exploration specialist who resigned from an executive-level position at a Texas-based energy firm and moved to Southeast Asia eight years ago. Another was settled here with a Thai wife and young child. The third man, suspected of shooting a Thai cop and keeping a frozen body in a freezer, seems to have been on the run from the FBI for nearly four decades. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/crime-crime/2016/09/28/the-americans-head-forgery-ring-suspect-ran-from-fbi/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-09-28 He can stop running now as he probably won't even be able to walk when or ever he gets out of the slammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy851 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 So they were all likely to have been behind the guise of whatever business was out front, selling forged passports, drugs, weapons ,whacking guys chopping them up and putting them on ice. Well i hope they lived a nice life up until now because youre going away for a long time. I bet they thought if anything ever went down they would just bribe their way out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPI Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Told you all three were yanks the day the story broke. God hates smart ar*@s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docshock13 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 One can only imagine the mischief La Fon has been up to in the 40 yrs he has eluded authorities. Appears to be one nasty character and career criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 So one was not a Brit as first reported... Maybe the UK should sue for defamation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2t37sz21/maryland-district-court/usa-v-la-fon-et-al/ -- Filed: 9/8/2008, Entered: 9/10/2008 Case Assigned/Reassigned Case as to Herbert Craig La Fon reassigned to Judge J. Frederick Motz. Judge Maryland Unassigned no longer assigned to the case. (cag, Deputy Clerk) 30 Filed: 6/24/1999, Entered: 6/24/1999 .Order ORDER DISMISSING the Indictment and Warrant Pending against Herbert Craig La Fon. ( Signed by Magistrate Judge Daniel E. Klein Jr. 6/24/99 ) (c/m & cc/hd USM 6/24/99) (jlb, Deputy Clerk) -- Filed: 6/24/1999, Entered: 6/24/1999 Dismissal of Counts DISMISSAL of Count(s) as to Herbert Craig La Fon Terminated motions Counts Dismissed: Herbert Craig La Fon (1) count(s) 1, 2-11 (jlb, Deputy Clerk) 1 Filed: 7/10/1979, Entered: 5/23/1997 Indictment INDICTMENT as to Herbert Craig La Fon (1) count(s) 1, 2-11 (amf, Deputy Clerk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Familyonthemove Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Do you need a work permit to chop someone up and store them in a freezer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rijb Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) No, just a label, with a sell-by date. Edited September 28, 2016 by rijb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 8 minutes ago, Familyonthemove said: Do you need a work permit to chop someone up and store them in a freezer? Not if it's for personal consumption Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniffdog Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Those Yanks saved your country; where ever you are from.If it wasn't for us, they were still to be discovered.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, rosst said: Lay down with dogs and get up with fleas, nothing they have been caught for YET. The plot thickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamkyong Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 1 hour ago, TPI said: God hates smart ar*@s! god who ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 16 minutes ago, Familyonthemove said: Do you need a work permit to chop someone up and store them in a freezer? No work permit for this occupation, it is protected employment for thai's only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Told you all three were yanks the day the story broke.And you also knew that the police interviewed all the Sukhumvit 22 bar owners the other day.Hmm, me thinks you might know a bit more, but can't say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 So what about this Robert Grundy fellow? Is he the cut-up body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 30 minutes ago, sniffdog said: If it wasn't for us, they were still to be discovered. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes true. Good one :) And the Native Red Indians are still pissed at you for coming :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 ....being fed information..... ...and making like it is a result of their investigative efforts...... ...wow...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundee48 Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, shaggy851 said: So they were all likely to have been behind the guise of whatever business was out front, selling forged passports, drugs, weapons ,whacking guys chopping them up and putting them on ice. Well i hope they lived a nice life up until now because youre going away for a long time. I bet they thought if anything ever went down they would just bribe their way out. I suspect they have been bribing their way out for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amykat Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Wilsonandson said: So what about this Robert Grundy fellow? Is he the cut-up body? I think they killed him or he died in 2011, then they lived in his condo which he owned apparently, (and they claim to police they were renting), until they had to move for some reason recently. It seems they are trying to pretend that he just died lately and was cremated. In 2011 his truck was also sold. Maybe they collect his SS payments as a bonus? I guess if you can forge a signature that wouldn't be difficult. If you can make a new passport up you could empty his Thai bank account of funds. The man (Robert Grundy) who owned the condo they were "renting" from probably at first glance, appears to have been alive until very recently, because one of them was impersonating him financially so to speak ...maybe ...while he sat in the freezer? Well this is just my guess. (There is another thread about this, if some of you have no idea what I am talking about) Edited September 28, 2016 by amykat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Peter Pattaya said: He can stop running now as he probably won't even be able to walk when or ever he gets out of the slammer! Busted spleen comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkyarddog Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Basil B said: So one was not a Brit as first reported... Maybe the UK should sue for defamation... I absolutely agree. Or should the Americans sue for being falsely accussed of hanging out with a Brit. Its complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acharn Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 35 minutes ago, SOTIRIOS said: ....being fed information..... ...and making like it is a result of their investigative efforts...... ...wow...... What do you think "investigating" is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickJ Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Wonder where the freezer will end up...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted September 28, 2016 Share Posted September 28, 2016 Remarks: La Fon has extensive martial arts training is a former kickboxer and also speaks Spanish. 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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