bobbin Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 On 10/1/2016 at 10:02 AM, Ulysses G. said: No, because they are anti-Semitic hypocrites and Roger Waters is one too. U G, you are such a knee-jerk apologist for Israel that you really should declare your bias.. For example, JT is Jewish and does not conceal that fact. We know this and it forms a basis to assess his statements on Israel. You seem to fall into the "My country, right or wrong" camp, except Israel is not your country. You are American... Shades of Sean Hannity re Trump. At least we agree on the drug war issue. Maybe we should get high together and talk geo-politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bobbin said: U G, you are such a knee-jerk apologist for Israel that you really should declare your bias. My bias is that I despise Islamic Terrorism and value democracy. I have studied the history of Israel in depth and have come to the conclusion that the Palestinians are responsible for most of their own problems. IMO, Waters is a talented musician with some very hateful political views. Edited October 3, 2016 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bark Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 On 30/9/2559 at 4:37 PM, Sooo Upto Me said: I think u mean Brick. ? Yep. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 14 hours ago, The Dark Lord said: What a succinct observation. roger the only reason you have that stage is because of the music. Frankly nobody gives two hoots what you think about politics, it is a private matter how you vote. If you want to enter politics, give up flogging the 20 year old record you helped make and become one. If you want to be a musician be one but stick to what you are good at and don't mix the two. FYI I also do not like David Gilmours political views but I don't get them thrown down my throat when I pay to go and see him. Gotta respect that plus he is an awesome musician having turned what would likely have been a soon forgotten 6 chord dirge into one of the most revered songs of the Floyd repartee containing perhaps the greatest solo ever recorded. You can't separate the music from the politics, the human condition with Roger.He's giving his views on life with every album, concept albums. That's the type of artist he is, engaged with the world. One may disagree with his opinions in which case ignore him but he's not writing and performing just for light enfertainment, he expects more from his fellow man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, bannork said: You can't separate the music from the politics, the human condition with Roger.He's giving his views on life with every album, concept albums. That's the type of artist he is, engaged with the world. One may disagree with his opinions in which case ignore him but he's not writing and performing just for light enfertainment, he expects more from his fellow man. You can my friend. singing about whatever political issue tickles your fancy is ok as people may like the song but not the words. standing on stage where you have been paid a significant amount of money to entertain those who have paid you then using that stage to spout off your political beliefs is wrong wrong wrong. we expect more from him; I.e. To act like a responsible adult and to undertake that for which he has been remunerated. Nothing more nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 1 hour ago, The Dark Lord said: You can my friend. singing about whatever political issue tickles your fancy is ok as people may like the song but not the words. standing on stage where you have been paid a significant amount of money to entertain those who have paid you then using that stage to spout off your political beliefs is wrong wrong wrong. we expect more from him; I.e. To act like a responsible adult and to undertake that for which he has been remunerated. Nothing more nothing less. What Roger Waters means by entertainment may differ from yours. He wants to raise people's awareness of certain issues, therefore songs, light shows, backcloths, speeches may all be fair medium he can use in his mind. He may consider political issues as inseparable from life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 With a net worth of 3Mill $ He really has done wellSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 [/url] Doesn't play Neither did my BMW Post less you search it on You TubeSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 5 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said: Doesn't play Neither did my BMW Post less you search it on You Tube Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Click and click again on YT link....It works.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 Not on dis ting. Go to YT Site page, enter in search box its perfect. Visa app is still hit n miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 6 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said: Not on dis ting. Go to YT Site page, enter in search box its perfect. Visa app is still hit n miss You must stop being trendy and have a crystal set like mine...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 4 hours ago, bannork said: What Roger Waters means by entertainment may differ from yours. He wants to raise people's awareness of certain issues, therefore songs, light shows, backcloths, speeches may all be fair medium he can use in his mind. He may consider political issues as inseparable from life. True but if standing on an auditorium spouting off your political beliefs is entertainment why are they not selling tickets to the Tory party conference? It is entertaining as was the labour conference but neither compare to the entertainment derived from the current US presidential race. all super entertaining however they are not advertised as musical venues they are advertised as political conferences and the likes. so the likes of Bob Geldorf, Roger Waters, Cumberpatch, sootie & Sweep and all those leftie luvvies who believe that they have some inalienable right to spout off left wing crap at music events should either change venue or shut the f....k up. The point is with all their wealth ( and all these clowns are wealthy) it is so damned easy to have an opinion supporting the poor underprivelidged and downtrodden fellow man then jump into your private jet and bugger off to your fortress like mansion on some tax advantageous island and forget the world ( for world read reality) even exists. Meanwhile Joe soap ( you and me) end up paying for the nonsense and living with the consequences. i am bored knocking my head against the wall on this subject now. Let's drop it so last comment from me in this section, life is too short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 He was a pest for the others in P.F I've since read.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Bit off topic but Branson's started now. Strangely not one Financial Refugee has settled on his Island.Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iReason Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 On September 30, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Ulysses G. said: Agreed. He needs to play his old music and keep his looney political opinions to himself. Funny, that's the same view I have of you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 Wonder what his views are on education and thought control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebyrd Posted October 5, 2016 Share Posted October 5, 2016 On 30/09/2016 at 9:11 AM, Ulysses G. said: Agreed. He needs to play his old music and keep his looney political opinions to himself. The same way you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Lord Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) I believe the people who went to see him and the other old ones in the desert recently expressed their ongoing desire to hear his rantings and political viewpoints at his concert for which they had paid obscenely high ticket prices. Quo erat demonstradum ( sorry bat the spelling) Edited October 12, 2016 by The Dark Lord Auto spell corrector again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Wonder what his views are on education and thought control?Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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