Poll On Teaching Requirements.

[Boatabike]

As we all seem to find the proposed teaching license a sure fired way to reduce the availability of foreign teachers in Thailand, how many of us are actually going to say enough is enough and pack the bags and leave?

Without knowing for sure what the hel_l is going to happen, nobody is just going to up and leave right now, but if the proposed plans, as we read them here in this post, come into effect who is sure that they will leave rather than jump through the hoops being supplied?

Personally, and it is difficult to say without full knowledge, I, hmm it is difficult to say. ###### i don't know what i am going to do so i guess this question is rather pointless. Does anyone know for sure what they will do if this comes into effect, i am going for choice 4.

Edit Err where did the poll go?

Edited November 29, 2006 by Boatabike

[Robski]

I'm waiting patiently for some direction, but how long must I or can I wait?

New requirements, testing, degree, no degree......no clear path, it's not very inspiring.

Currently there are no English teachers in the government schools in Pattaya, because nobody has been awarded the contract,

no-one seems to know who will get the contract or when this may happen.

Edited November 29, 2006 by Robski

[PeaceBlondie]

On another forum, on a thread now difficult to even find, they ask how many teachers of English are leaving, and there are very many (considering the number of active posters there who aren't married to a Thai wife).

I'm not even looking for serious work, and I want to work up to 11 contact hours per week. Somebody commented yesterday, elsewhere, that 90% of the teachers in Chiang Mai don't have a work permit. That's only slightly exaggerated.

[Scott]

Steven: The reason that urine is yellow and sperm is white is so that some of us will know if we are coming or going!

[Scott]

Oops, sorry that wasn't for Steven!

[aussiestyle1983]

I will be leaving. I have become legal in the past few months and the new requirements wont affect me but im just sick of all the BS that the MOE and others want us to go through. I feel you need more qualifications to be a teacher in Thailand than in most other countries, even western countries, and in a country like this that is desperate for teachers, they need to wake up to themselves and realise that what they want and what they will get are two different things. I know 3 others (WP holders) at another school that will be leaving for the same reason, they are sick of all the BS.

I think that anyone who teaches here needs to at least pass some sort of formal training where a decision can be made by the relevant authorities on weather on not you can be employed here, but as for all the papers you need (degrees, TEFL's, etc.) to become legal at the moment, there will never be enough native teachers here to meet that criteria (unless the salary's go up)

I have always believed that beggers cant be choosers, and it seems like Thailand is being far to choosy at the moment.

Edited December 8, 2006 by aussiestyle1983

[Ijustwannateach]

I think in the end the requirements will be reduced or recognised as an utter failure and sidelined for an indeterminate time; so what the MOE will have accomplished is a vast shaking out of the labour pool which will make it even harder for schools to do their staffing. This may have a positive effect on the teachers who remain, but since economics don't exactly work normally here that's not a given. My fingers and toes are crossed.

[Pattayatony]

I think in the end the requirements will be reduced or recognised as an utter failure and sidelined for an indeterminate time; so what the MOE will have accomplished is a vast shaking out of the labour pool which will make it even harder for schools to do their staffing. This may have a positive effect on the teachers who remain, but since economics don't exactly work normally here that's not a given. My fingers and toes are crossed.

Reading this forum I was interested to know if teachers were being affected by the so called new rules and if many had considered moving on. I was in Cambodia last month a friend is a teacher in PP and he was telling me that many expats from Thailand are going to Cambodia to check it out for teaching jobs. He said that there arn't many jobs available in Cambodia at the moment for teachers.

[sorry, it's not even acceptable to suggest "most English teachers are [negative epithet] by phrasing it as a question- IJWT].

Edited December 11, 2006 by Ijustwannateach

[PeaceBlondie]

pattayatony asks how many farang teachers in Thailand have fake papers. Nobody knows. This recent crackdown by the MOE is an honest but mis-handled attempt by the govt. to get rid of the unqualified teachers. However, it appears on the surface that the new requirements eliminate 90% of the current teachers of English (if they require a B.Ed. or a PCGE, or whatever).

For some teachers who have loved much of their stay in Thailand, this crackdown is the last straw, even though they probably meet the requirements! On one forum alone, eleven teachers have posted that they're leaving, and some of them are FULLY qualified.

[Pattayatony]

pattayatony asks how many farang teachers in Thailand have fake papers. Nobody knows. This recent crackdown by the MOE is an honest but mis-handled attempt by the govt. to get rid of the unqualified teachers. However, it appears on the surface that the new requirements eliminate 90% of the current teachers of English (if they require a B.Ed. or a PCGE, or whatever).

For some teachers who have loved much of their stay in Thailand, this crackdown is the last straw, even though they probably meet the requirements! On one forum alone, eleven teachers have posted that they're leaving, and some of them are FULLY qualified.

Thanks for your reply Blondie. It seems a lot are heading for Cambodia but like I said before there arn't too many jobs vacant at the moment according to my source in PP.

Cheers Tony

[Loaded]

It's always been that in theory you needed a degree to obtain a wp. Schools worked around this if they wanted to give you a wp and you didn't have a degree. The 'new' changes do not seem to change this situation at all. Schools will still work around it.

Up here in Chiang Mai many teachers have never had a wp and again things won't change.

IMO a lot of flaffing for no real reason.

[Ijustwannateach]

Just a friendly reminder that we're not going to have an extended WP no-WP, degree no-degree debate on the teaching subforum anytime soon- dead horse flogged and there is a temporary moratorium on such topics. PattayaTony, you can indulge your curiousity here.

"Steven"