webfact Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Trump disavows alt-right conference after online video of Nazi salutes in his honour – New York Times NEW YORK: -- Under pressure to strongly condemn the actions of a so-called ‘alt right’ group who celebrated Donald Trump’s election with Nazi salutes, the president-elect told the New York Times he ‘disavows’ the conference in Washington. Despite tweeting three times about his vice-president being booed at the theatre, Trump had previously issued a tame response in an official statement from his team saying he “continued to denounce racism of any kind.” In a video shot over the weekend by a reporter from the American magazine the Atlantic, members attending the white nationalist annual conference of the National Policy Institute, respond to calls of Hail Trump with Nazi salutes. The leader Richard Spence told the audience, their movement would be the ‘intellectual vanguard’ of the Trump administration. -- © Copyright Euronews 2016-11-23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 59 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. I dug around but found nothing. Can you provide links to these video's. I want to see why a white supremacist would be 'siege ceiling' a man of colour. I assume you have watched the video concerning the OP above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, lannarebirth said: If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. These fascists might be totally meaningless to you, but the civilized world is appalled by these creeps. Edited November 23, 2016 by DriveByTrucker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 hours ago, lannarebirth said: If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. links, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdkane Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 hours ago, lannarebirth said: If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. Clinton received the endorsement of the Communist Party, but there was no national coverage of that fact...only that Trump was favored by the fringes of the alt right...the Communist Party has killed more than 100,000,000 and continues to do so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 hours ago, lannarebirth said: If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. I believe you are 'spot on' about the media. The ONLY reason these nutters are getting coverage is because the media thinks there is mileage in it , in respect of having a go at Trump (.....plenrty of real things to have a go at Trump about without this beat-up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, lannarebirth said: If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. Exactly, they find a meeting of a few wing-nuts, with no following or influence, and all of a sudden an outbreak of mass hysteria among the Dems and the MSM. One could find a meeting and videos the Communist Party USA and their singing of the Internationale...doesn't mean there's any danger of a dictatorship of the proletariat around the corner. Just another instance of anti-Trump journalism by the MSM and why he is right to taunt and ignore them and reach his followers directly through social media and other platforms. Edited November 23, 2016 by OMGImInPattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 hours ago, lannarebirth said: If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. Why would you guys spend so much time bashing the press instead of bashing these alt-right groups with their crazy and dangerous ideas? What the freak is wrong with you people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 The press has been antagonistic to Trump from day one, and it continues to bash him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, hdkane said: Clinton received the endorsement of the Communist Party, but there was no national coverage of that fact...only that Trump was favored by the fringes of the alt right...the Communist Party has killed more than 100,000,000 and continues to do so... Which communist party endorsed Clinton? The USACP? They killed 100million people?? Even McCarthy couldnt come up with such BS! I guess what you want to achieve with your post is to find an excuse for the existence of these fascist pigs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 10 minutes ago, OMGImInPattaya said: Exactly, they find a meeting of a few wing-nuts, with no following or influence, and all of a sudden an outbreak of mass hysteria among the Dems and the MSM. One could find a meeting and videos the Communist Party USA and their singing of the Internationale...doesn't mean there's any danger of a dictatorship of the proletariat around the corner. Just another instance of anti-Trump journalism by the MSM and why he is right to taunt and ignore them and reach his followers directly through social media and other platforms. more apologists rhetoric for fascism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 13 minutes ago, Prbkk said: I believe you are 'spot on' about the media. The ONLY reason these nutters are getting coverage is because the media thinks there is mileage in it , in respect of having a go at Trump (.....plenrty of real things to have a go at Trump about without this beat-up). Its the fact that the Trump camp doesnt publicly and explicitly denounce these creeps that will bring it back to the attention to the media time and time again. The main question is, why doesn't he get really pissed off that these creeps relate him/his name to the champion of US fascism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DriveByTrucker said: more apologists rhetoric for fascism? Years of silly attacks like yours on people expressing their opinions are why such epithets like "racism," "sexism," "facism," and all your other SJW "'isms" have no affect anymore and are just ignored by most people. However, if you feel the need to continue "virtue signaling" to your friends and others in your political bubble how pure you are by all means go ahead and bandy about such terms...we'd rather just win elections. Edited November 23, 2016 by OMGImInPattaya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Dodgy video…….the morons who staged it could have at least noted that 'Heil' is pronounced Hyle not Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 23 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Why would you guys spend so much time bashing the press instead of bashing these alt-right groups with their crazy and dangerous ideas? What the freak is wrong with you people? Umm...maybe because there are more important issues facing the nation and the President Elect than what a couple hundred nutters are doing at a restaurant cafeteria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaidam Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 One must be careful how a photograph is interpreted. It looks to me like one or two audience member have a hand raised because they want to ask a question. It all looks very civilized. Contrast that to the PC brigade rioting, looting and rampaging because they were not mentally equipped to deal with their preffered candidate to lose - of those heinous acts there can be no possible explanation. Any yet MSM is doing backflips to attempt portraying a seminar as something evil. Incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, OMGImInPattaya said: Silly attacks like yours are why such epithets like "racism," "sexism," "facism," and all your other SJW "'isms" have no affect anymore and are just ignored by most people. However, if you feel the need to continue "virtue signaling" to your friends and others all in your political bubble how pure you are by all means go ahead and throw around such terms...we'd rather just win elections. So now its my fault that people are fascists, because I use words with "ims" in it? What you could have done instead of finding excuses for these creeps, was to say "I find fascist deplorable and don't want to be associated with them, but the media is making it bigger than it is", but you didnt! Why did you leave out the first part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 3 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: Dodgy video…….the morons who staged it could have at least noted that 'Heil' is pronounced Hyle not Hail. I think they were trying to create a little bit of "deniability space" between them and the National Socialist German Workers' Party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, DriveByTrucker said: So now its my fault that people are fascists, because I use words with "ims" in it? What you could have done instead of finding excuses for these creeps, was to say "I find fascist deplorable and don't want to be associated with them, but the media is making it bigger than it is", but you didnt! Why did you leave out the first part? I think the real question is why do you, and your cohorts in the MSM, find it necessary to carp on incessently about a political/social gathering of a couple hundred people in a nation of over 320 million. Are you just looking for stupid things to bring to the attention of the public. Why don't you go out and film BLM thugs attacking the police, or Black Panther Party thugs intimidating voters, or maybe tell us how a culture develops where boys kill each other over a pair of tennis shoes. These are of much more consequence than some people having a bad chicken lunch while pretending to be important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidVincent Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, lannarebirth said: If you search the bowels of YouTube you will find videos of persons seig heiling Obama and Hillary Clinton too. You know why it didn't get any press coverage? Because it is totally meaningless and perpetrated by microtesimal percentage of the population. The only thing that's changed is the press for reasons of their own is now covering it. Well I am quite sure nobody from the KKK ever sided for Obama... I am still waiting to find a Heil Hilary or Heil Obama on youtube. Trump supporters just have to acknowledge that a fringe of their comrades are racists and white supremacists morons, that's all. I don't understand why Trump supporters are so angry at that...sometime you have a stupid brother and it is not your fault...it is mostly Dad's fault... Of course those kind of mentality is mostly on the right side.... Edited November 23, 2016 by DavidVincent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) " How White Nationalists Learned To Love Donald Trump . Once they believed he was a secret Jew. Now he has more white-power support than any mainstream candidate in modern politics. Here’s how it unfolded." http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump-2016-white-nationalists-alt-right-214388 "It is possible that Trump ― who, according to the campaign, does almost all of his own tweeting ― is unfamiliar with the term “white genocide” and doesn’t do even basic vetting of those whose tweets he amplifies to his seven million followers. But the reality is that there are dozens of tweets mentioning @realDonaldTrump each minute, and he has an uncanny ability to surface ones that come from accounts that proudly proclaim their white supremacist leanings." http://fortune.com/donald-trump-white-supremacist-genocide/ Edited November 23, 2016 by Opl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, OMGImInPattaya said: I think the real question is why do you, and your cohorts in the MSM, find it necessary to carp on incessently about a political/social gathering of a couple hundred people in a nation of over 320 million. Are you just looking for stupid things to bring to the attention of the public. Why don't you go out and film BLM thugs attacking the police, or Black Panther Party thugs intimidating voters, or maybe tell us how a culture develops where boys kill each other over a pair of tennis shoes. These are of much more consequence than some people having a bad chicken lunch while pretending to be important. Your statement is clear; BLM are thugs and what these fascists do is merely a political/social gathering. I cannot tell you how a culture develops where kids get killed over tennis shoes, I can tell you however how a culture develops where one group in society is singled out and blamed for all the problems, and then that group is exterminated by the millions in concentration camps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andaman Al Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 41 minutes ago, jaidam said: One must be careful how a photograph is interpreted. It looks to me like one or two audience member have a hand raised because they want to ask a question. Yes, only you would see this as people who have their hands raised to ask a question and you would accept that without the slightest effort to learn more. 1 hour ago, maoro2013 said: The press has been antagonistic to Trump from day one, and it continues to bash him. And what part of this is the press being antagonistic. What a perfect pair you make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 14 minutes ago, DriveByTrucker said: Your statement is clear; BLM are thugs and what these fascists do is merely a political/social gathering. I cannot tell you how a culture develops where kids get killed over tennis shoes, I can tell you however how a culture develops where one group in society is singled out and blamed for all the problems, and then that group is exterminated by the millions in concentration camps It started in a meeting of few people having lunch in a Washington DC suburb...good to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: Why would you guys spend so much time bashing the press instead of bashing these alt-right groups with their crazy and dangerous ideas? What the freak is wrong with you people? Because I feel very safe stating that probably 99% of the USA thinks Nazi loving White Supremacists are freaking psychos. Saying that, The media is giving them freaking airtime. Finally, not only is the media giving them airtime, but using it to say "Hey look Trump didn't Tweet much about a room full of Nazis" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: Why would you guys spend so much time bashing the press instead of bashing these alt-right groups with their crazy and dangerous ideas? What the freak is wrong with you people? For the same reason I don't spend anytime bashing this guy: Or this guy: They're freakin' nutters and and exist in such miniscule numbers they are not worthy of my attention. They hold no power or influence. They are talking to themselves most of the time, but I guess you're listening now. I'm not. I don't listen to the Anarchists or Communists either. Edited November 23, 2016 by lannarebirth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveByTrucker Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 4 minutes ago, Strange said: Because I feel very safe stating that probably 99% of the USA thinks Nazi loving White Supremacists are freaking psychos. I am sure you right with the 99%. The question is, why doesn't 99% of the Trump supporters here at TV denounce these Nazi too, but only complain about how bias the media is? 7 minutes ago, Strange said: Finally, not only is the media giving them airtime, but using it to say "Hey look Trump didn't Tweet much about a room full of Nazis" The media is giving them airtime because they use the president-elect for their propaganda. Would the president-elect publicly and explicitly denounce these creeps, the media might actually support the president-elect in their coverage. So why doesnt he? Why merely state that he will be a president for ALL Americans? Aren't these fascist pigs part of ALL America? Is it so hard to say I am a president for ALL Americans but NEVER for fascists? Dont the 99% of the Americans deserve that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Mr Spencer, who has called for “peaceful ethnic cleansing”, says he dreams of a "new society, an ethno-state that would be a gathering point for all Europeans". he adds: “I think that Donald Trump is the kind of first step toward this new kind of politics that I’ve been outlying. It’s maybe the first awkward, maybe vulgar step in that direction. “I think that’s a very good thing. And I think Donald Trump has appealed to the right people around the world," Steve Bannon, Mr Trump's chief strategist, is probably the most high-profile figure to be associated with the alt-right http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/0/richard-spencer-white-nationalist-leading-alt-right-movement/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 7 minutes ago, DriveByTrucker said: I am sure you right with the 99%. The question is, why doesn't 99% of the Trump supporters here at TV denounce these Nazi too, but only complain about how bias the media is? The media is giving them airtime because they use the president-elect for their propaganda. Would the president-elect publicly and explicitly denounce these creeps, the media might actually support the president-elect in their coverage. So why doesnt he? Why merely state that he will be a president for ALL Americans? Aren't these fascist pigs part of ALL America? Is it so hard to say I am a president for ALL Americans but NEVER for fascists? Dont the 99% of the Americans deserve that? Im not even gonna pander to being pushed to denounce Nazi psychopaths on TVF. Thats the most retarded thing I have read in in a while and you word it like you need the reassurance that there isn't a bunch of freakin underground white supremacists lurking here. Grow up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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