webfact Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Sulfuric Acid Vapor Cloud Sends 30 To Hospital By Chayanit Itthipongmaetee, Staff Reporter - An aerial view of the 304 Industrial Park on Thursday night where sulfuric gas was leaked from a factory PRACHINBURI — More than 30 residents of Prachinburi’s Si Maha Phot district were hospitalized Thursday night by a factory chemical spill. A factory belonging to Sunshine Biotech International released large clouds of sulfuric acid into the air which spread to the neighboring households, sickening those inside. Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/calamity/2016/11/25/sulfuric-acid-vapor-cloud-sends-30-hospital/ -- © Copyright Khaosod English 2016-11-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 ''According to its website, Sunshine Biotech is a joint venture between Thailand and China that manufactures citric acid.'' Ain't no sunshine in there then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 once again the thai health and safety standards(lack of) are there for everyone to see, when will the govt actually hold businesses/employers responsible for what they do. The greater majority of accidents in the workplace etc are due to cost cutting and lack of safety inspection again due to the cost savings it involves, profit before people is their major concern, if they can make a few extra baht then the lives of their workers/surrounding people is not important enough to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted November 25, 2016 Author Share Posted November 25, 2016 Sunshine Biotech joint venture factory told to halt operation temporarily after gas leakage PRACHINBURI: -- A Chinese-Thai joint venture factory, Sunshine Biotech International, at 304 Industrial Park in Srimahaphote district of Prachinburi province, was asked by local authorities to cease operation temporarily after over a hundred of residents protested in front of the factory and demanded it be relocated. The angry residents turned to protest after toxic chemical fumes leaked from the factory during the production last night. The fume leakage has suffocated adjacent residential communities and forced rescue workers to rush more than 40 residents who included children and the aged to nearby hospitals. The leakage was the second time within a few months. But before the protest went out of control, the governor, the industry officer and the military were called in to negotiate with the factory executives. The factory admitted of the leakage after it tested run a new production machinery, thus causing the leakage of sulfuric gas during the production process. The factory was then told to stop production temporarily until the problem is resolved. Public health officer will inspect the factory and the health of residents today as affected residents have demanded the factory to pay compensation to them. Another negotiation on compensation payment is scheduled to be held next Monday. Full story:http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/sunshine-biotech-joint-venture-factory-told-to-halt-operation-temporarily-after-gas-leakage/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-11-25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 That new production machine was built to faulty blueprints. The victim of industrial espionage made them so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 oh boy, Thailand is going to be just like China! " But before the protest went out of control, the governor, the industry officer and the military were called in to negotiate with the factory executives. " How about this, the fire dept. is called, they automatically issue a evacuation order, the factory is closed, the leak is contained, complete building and safety code check, the company is handed the bill for the entire evacuation, including hospital for victims, temp. lodging and compensation for having your lungs damaged by frickin' sulfuric acid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Those look lie medical surgical masks the emloyees are wearing...that means they are worn to protect the patients/people in the area from the wearer's illness. I guess a lot of sick employees who are working... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 The factory should never have been allowed to be built so close to a village, I believe this is illegal in Thailand, not to mention the laws about building such a plant right next to a Temple, and laws concerning building a factory right next to a canal...... Factory tried to save money by starting their own Sulfuric acid production (which is needed to produce citric acid) instead of as previously buying the acid from supplier. How they got their ISO14000 and ISO9000 certificates is a mystery to me. Factory is just a few years old but look like a run down crap factory from WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 hours ago, trogers said: That new production machine was built to faulty blueprints. The victim of industrial espionage made them so... wow! can you prove this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 hours ago, seajae said: once again the thai health and safety standards(lack of) are there for everyone to see, when will the govt actually hold businesses/employers responsible for what they do. The greater majority of accidents in the workplace etc are due to cost cutting and lack of safety inspection again due to the cost savings it involves, profit before people is their major concern, if they can make a few extra baht then the lives of their workers/surrounding people is not important enough to them An understudy of China Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 27 minutes ago, AlQaholic said: The factory should never have been allowed to be built so close to a village, I believe this is illegal in Thailand, Finally something that is illegal in Thailand. Great topic for the anti Thai bashers to get their nose out of joint for. Thailand's motto is "we are open for business any and all kinds of business" Guaranteed this company will face no fine or sanctions or inspections this is the last you will hear of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunque Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 hours ago, NCC1701A said: oh boy, Thailand is going to be just like China! or the USofA http://www.prwatch.org/news/2016/02/13046/honeywell-contractor-osha-taxpayer-dollars http://www.wbrz.com/news/shelter-in-place-order-issued-after-sulfuric-acid-leak-at-geismar-plant/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustNo Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 hours ago, seajae said: once again the thai health and safety standards(lack of) are there for everyone to see, when will the govt actually hold businesses/employers responsible for what they do. The greater majority of accidents in the workplace etc are due to cost cutting and lack of safety inspection again due to the cost savings it involves, profit before people is their major concern, if they can make a few extra baht then the lives of their workers/surrounding people is not important enough to them True enough but you must remember where we are, it is the less developed third world, and even though things should be different, they're not and that is to be expected. Things over time will change if the powers that be are pushed by the right people, but such changes took many years in the Western world, and the same will have to occur here; things may change at a faster rate however due to the Western world setting an example to look up in such aspects of society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn0000 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, cardinalblue said: Those look lie medical surgical masks the emloyees are wearing...that means they are worn to protect the patients/people in the area from the wearer's illness. I guess a lot of sick employees who are working... They are the "angry residents", no doubt they bought the masks hoping to protect themselves, the workers probably have real protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, dunque said: or the USofA http://www.prwatch.org/news/2016/02/13046/honeywell-contractor-osha-taxpayer-dollars http://www.wbrz.com/news/shelter-in-place-order-issued-after-sulfuric-acid-leak-at-geismar-plant/ Honeywell is just taking a page out of the Asian playbook. Obama has made serious sanctions against them. Trump will remove them and let them practice business as usual. American companies safety standards are falling by the wayside much like here in Asia. Its an every man for yourself world. If your body gets cold there is another warm one waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JustNo said: things may change at a faster rate however due to the Western world setting an example to look up in such aspects of society Personally I think the Western world is catching up to how safety issues are throughout Asia. I am thinking that under Trump they will grow bolder and safety laws weaker. We seem to be accumulating an ever increasing number of spare humans so their value seems to be diminishing. Edited November 25, 2016 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mettech Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 I never known about health and safety here in Thailand what is that??? sabai sabai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 48 minutes ago, masuk said: wow! can you prove this? On the machine and puff - sulphuric acid cloud. That's the proof. Professionals do not behave like kids in the science lab of a middle school... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 12 minutes ago, mettech said: I never known about health and safety here in Thailand what is that??? sabai sabai. Watch for the big blue sign outside of each construction site it lists all the safety requirements on the site. Straw hat, sandals, loose fitting clothing Red Cross sign etc. its all there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Why is it that time after time with incidents like this, the companies issue some kind of explanation as if it mitigates their responsibility. IN NO WAY are they any less responsible for what happened because it was "new machinery" - who are they trying to kid - in fact they should have been even more vigilant knowing that there would be increased risks involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 hours ago, NCC1701A said: oh boy, Thailand is going to be just like China! " But before the protest went out of control, the governor, the industry officer and the military were called in to negotiate with the factory executives. " How about this, the fire dept. is called, they automatically issue a evacuation order, the factory is closed, the leak is contained, complete building and safety code check, the company is handed the bill for the entire evacuation, including hospital for victims, temp. lodging and compensation for having your lungs damaged by frickin' sulfuric acid. Nah - "negotiation" sounds more in line with management practice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Why is it that time after time with incidents like this, the companies issue some kind of explanation as if it mitigates their responsibility. IN NO WAY are they any less responsible for what happened because it was "new machinery" - who are they trying to kid - in fact they should have been even more vigilant knowing that there would be increased risks involved.There are always excuses to make it look less bad but i agree 100%Hope they have to pay out a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust314 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 just in last week days i was watching movie Bhopal.... sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 2 hours ago, AlQaholic said: The factory should never have been allowed to be built so close to a village, I believe this is illegal in Thailand, not to mention the laws about building such a plant right next to a Temple, and laws concerning building a factory right next to a canal...... Factory tried to save money by starting their own Sulfuric acid production (which is needed to produce citric acid) instead of as previously buying the acid from supplier. How they got their ISO14000 and ISO9000 certificates is a mystery to me. Factory is just a few years old but look like a run down crap factory from WW2. "How they got their ISO14000 and ISO9000 certificates is a mystery to me." Buy on Khaosan Rd or off the internet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphMichaels Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 hours ago, cardinalblue said: Those look lie medical surgical masks the emloyees are wearing...that means they are worn to protect the patients/people in the area from the wearer's illness. I guess a lot of sick employees who are working... Those masks can't protect against much of anything, let alone a sulfur cloud. I laugh seeing so many wear them. Ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belzybob Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 42 minutes ago, lvr181 said: "How they got their ISO14000 and ISO9000 certificates is a mystery to me." Buy on Khaosan Rd or off the internet? Apart from their food accreditation which is by SGS, all their other accreditations are issued by "WIT Assessment". Which is a Chinese company and thus = to piece of goat shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 1 hour ago, cumgranosalum said: Why is it that time after time with incidents like this, the companies issue some kind of explanation as if it mitigates their responsibility. Its the old company accident dodge called "Human Error" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 3 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: Its the old company accident dodge called "Human Error" Yup or "attack" is the best method of defense. I mean ask any lawyer or spin doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 Just now, lvr181 said: Yup or "attack" is the best method of defense. I mean ask any lawyer or spin doctor. All the lawyers I know stick their nose up at me. I don't meet their minimum billing requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted November 25, 2016 Share Posted November 25, 2016 5 hours ago, webfact said: But before the protest went out of control, the governor, the industry officer and the military were called in to negotiate with the factory executives. At this point it gets scary. The negotiations get down to where the rubber meets the road or the baht stack has to get higher. In this poker game the military holds all the high cards. The company will still have to raise to see a winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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